deep substrate foliated kalkite QF77: (S)Andor(son) Elimination

[Myst He/Him]

Yeah, there’s really not enough things to go on, I’m just pming people right now, seeing if I can find anything. I’m slightly worried that people are saying that they don’t know, and then voting Kasimir, seems similar to what happened day 1

[Kasimir he/him]

Ngl, Argenti's response actually makes me want to double down and stick to my guns.

It makes me more sus, funny enough. Like I think for players who've done this a while like Fura, I'm ok with sussing me because it feels like it comes from a fairly normal fog-of-war POV and also pushing me is not something an Elim presumably wants to do on their immediate entrance into the thread. It's high energy and high attention. For that, I do give Fura some V!credit. Also something else Fura did though that's kinda bad as a reason ngl.

With Argenti, in context it's a very "no u!" (OMGUS if you play elsewhere, don't ask me to spell it out because it's not considered polite so we don't use the term here) retaliatory type reflex in response to copping flak/sus, and I think newer Elims are especially prone to it, particularly when uncoached. Not ruling out it could come from a Villager headspace, but it's where I'm currently at.

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

Ngl, Argenti's response actually makes me want to double down and stick to my guns.

For the time being I'm going to join you. Same reasoning and also I'm not a big fan of how spread out the votes have been the past two days until the very end. I would like to see people react a bit more to the pressure.

Kasimir
Argenti

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

Alr. Not going to jump on the Argenti train quite yet, although I am suspicious of him, bc my jumping on the train yesterday for partially similar reasons ended badly, so I want to see his defense first.

Argenti didn't get a message, so there are a few possible worlds there.
v!Argenti: Elims didn't think was a rebel, which is... unhelpful for narrowing down elims bc everyone who was active seemed to be suspicious of Argenti yesterday except for Worldhopper, who didn't mention him one way or the other.
e!Argenti: Either sent message and doesn't want to self-claim, or didn't send message so said no to avoid being wrong.
Or for either world, if he didn't send the message, wasn't active enough to get a message sent to him.

[Kasimir he/him]

Okay. Some stuff I want to clarify because I don't think it is constructive for us to have these conversations in PMs and keep most of the Village in the dark:

1. Lotus has mentioned getting a different message from mine (I'll say more about mine in a bit) and that this message has a list of names, and resembles yesterday's durasteel message. [D3 Message #2]

2. I also wanna confirm - Lotus / Argenti: did Argenti receive or not receive a separate message yesterday, with the term duraluminum instead? This would be a third message circulating yesterday if so. I feel like I'm getting contradictory info from Lotus and from Argenti via Doc so I wanna know what is happening because someone is lying here and that's caught my attention.

3. Someone else (considering whether or not to out them, just a bit of a politeness worry ig) has claimed a message with a three-name long list. I'm not sure if this is the same as Lotus's and would like confirmation.

4. The message I received [D3 Message #1] involved a completely different word and required me to use the dead drop message and a thread message (hence public and private.) For whatever it's worth, I considered trying to bait but given I do not have 1337 Tineye powers, I didn't think the bait would work, so am not really gonna try it.

5. My current read is that while D3 Message #2 might be continuous with yesterday's durasteel message, the name list indicates it's reflective of a little more sophistication and potentially some FUD. I'd like the people who received D3 Message #2 to confirm if there was any mention of rancors or something stylistically similar in it. D3 Message #1 is very bare-bones, which makes me think it is not the same sender as yesterday's durasteel message.

6. Based on the replies, I have some very brief thoughts about the messages and potential senders, but we'll bracket them for now.

7. I don't want us to overfocus on the messages and forget basic bread and butter analysis. Just putting it out there. IDK if I'm in the headspace to do post deep-reads but I'm gonna revisit my thoughts on the STINK kill from D1 because that's at least game-related that isn't wading through messages.

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(less likely to have put STINK on kill): TOW, Newt, Doc, Storm, Divergent, Exp
Just running raw exclusion here: TUN, Coder, Argenti, Hoid, Ace, Lotus
Not there: Fura

All of this was based primarily off post timings and the assumption that most of these players would probably try to deconflict a kill if possible. In particular:

Newt, TOW, and to a lesser extent, Divergent would probably not put in a kill order on STINK within that set. (I italicised Exp and Storm back then because in my head, they're players who are screwy enough I don't feel confident making that assertion.)

Within the second set, I V!read Lotus, slightly E!lean Argenti, Coder theoretically makes me a bit allergic because of asking for catch-up but that's very strictly NAI, and Doc says Hoid is likely to be replaced so IDK that matters at this point.

Exp votes Fura, and this continues the tradition of returnee kills. I kind of feel like Elims would probably wanna leave a number of returness alive to hide (just as a demographic issue), so if there's continued skew, we need to look at the newer player set (which tbf we are doing anyway.) The point is fuzzed a little because this is probabilistic, but yeah.

Worth noting:

16 hours ago, Experience said:

Well I screwed up the quotes and I'm on mobile so all my thoughts are here. For the first quote, I don't understand why you're so hard set against divergent and then votes me for...knowing star wars (at least that seems like the main reason). Why not vote divergent at that point?

Light pressure to Newt from Exp as Exp doesn't vote there. I don't necessarily think this is a threat kill and it could be a demographic + low info kill, but I'm just musing aloud at this point.

[Argenti he/him]

2 hours ago, Booknewt said:

Alr. Not going to jump on the Argenti train quite yet, although I am suspicious of him, bc my jumping on the train yesterday for partially similar reasons ended badly, so I want to see his defense first.

Argenti didn't get a message, so there are a few possible worlds there.
v!Argenti: Elims didn't think was a rebel, which is... unhelpful for narrowing down elims bc everyone who was active seemed to be suspicious of Argenti yesterday except for Worldhopper, who didn't mention him one way or the other.
e!Argenti: Either sent message and doesn't want to self-claim, or didn't send message so said no to avoid being wrong.
Or for either world, if he didn't send the message, wasn't active enough to get a message sent to him.

I swear I received no message. 

I'm being completely truthful in that I'm voting off vibes rather than solid logic. You all are heavily over estimating how well I understand what on earth is happening.

I'd change my vote if that pleases the court?

[Doc12]

Still at work so I'm keeping this brief - I've been pming people on my breaks foe the better part of the morning, seeing if anyone received any dead drops because I didn't get any last night.

So far Kas and Fura are the only people who've confirmed getting a message to me.

The discrepancy we found was that Lotus told Me that they didn't receive a message but told Kas they did. They further claimed to me and apparently Kas that Argenti and TwinStorm received messages, which Argenti is denying and TwinStorm hasn't responded. 

And yeah Kas says they got a message about a double confirm thing, while Fura says they got one with a list of names which might be who Kas is referring to (I understand politeness but I think it's better for info to have all my cards out right now. 

I am confused about the third message -I got the durasteel one day 2, but apparently there's a duralumin one too? Are they the same or different ? 

@IHadAThought ? Care to solidify your story ? 

 

[Kasimir he/him]

ACE?

[Myst He/Him]

In response to Argenti having one , I said he might’ve, as that would make sense with what I knew at the time. As for not telling you, I still don’t particularly trust you, which yeah, I can see how’d you think I’m an elim, but that wasn’t my intention, I just wanted to do something stuff first. As for the message I got, I’ve confirmed with Fura that we got the same one. For the duraluminum question, I theorized to Kas that there might have been three dead drops yesterday, one with a keyword of durasteel, one with duraluminum, and one for the planet one. 

[Kasimir he/him]

2 minutes ago, IHadAThought said:

For the duraluminum question, I theorized to Kas that there might have been three dead drops yesterday, one with a keyword of durasteel, one with duraluminum, and one for the planet one. 

Ohhhh damn, okay, yeah, that clears it up, my bad, I was going nuts thinking the stories were not matching up >>

If so, we have two messages today. Any chance you can tell me if there was anything stylistic about this one, e.g. the rancor pit like the last one?

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

Ok, I haven't done one of these yet and I do think we are probably in a world where if we kill a good ISB agent today (not to be confused with the bad rebels) I think we are still fine so we don't need to start worrying yet. I did a verrryyyy basic sim with random kills and executions and I think 6 is likely too many rebels and 5 is a good number where the game seems to stay mostly balanced through the game regardless of what happens. So I think we have today and tomorrow to catch out another rebel before things get a little dicey. I seem to have a lot of evil reads early in this which idk what to think about that... I'm pretty confident I'm wrong on at least one. I've got to get offline for the next several hours, but should be back online for a few hours before rollover. If I nailed one of you below, PM me and let me know asap so I know to pivot to another...

1. TwinStorm - Slight Elim  

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On 10/25/2025 at 4:51 PM, TwinStorm said:

Rebel Spymaster?  

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obviously jokes though feels a bit like a self aware evil to me

On 10/26/2025 at 7:08 AM, TwinStorm said:

huh okay

thats weird and slightly unfortunate for the rebels, but still yay

anyways, Ksauce kill is unfortunate, but my reasoning for stating that train was a) we have no circumstantial evidence, but we must vote someone out, b) he's not super active but also fairly good at the game

what drop box messages did you receive? I received one about durasteel and one threatening one

Reaction to STINK dying seems fake. Also strangely defensive for starting the train on Ksauce  

23 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

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Presents logic as to who to target and then goes in a completely different direction. I don't agree with the logic, but doesn't read as ISB

 

2. Doc12 -  Slight ISB

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D1 posts are mostly just chilling. D1 analysis is always hard and harder in this game. Good on you for attempting lol. Posts have been pushing for more information generally. Not necessarily proof of being good in this game but makes them not a target in my books.

4. Divergent - Neutral - Will change based on PM response

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  I'm cutting parts of the posts irrelevent to my reads

19 hours ago, Divergent said:

Thoughts about everyone:

1. TwinStorm - The post where he said that PMs are the route both sides have to take combined with him stating that he messaged veterans stood out a bit to me. I could see the angle of a Rebel trying to find a friend among the people who are more familiar with playing in SE.

2. Doc - Messaged everyone like Stink also, so there’s an angle where he’s a Rebel trying to find allies. I’m a bit iffy about the reason for voting me because it seems to assume that I have the knowledge that Stink was a Rebel and thus voted for KSauce because of that.

3. Unknown - Basically his posting was just a joke about being the Spymaster, the Dark Forest theory, and some game mechanics, so there’s not really much of a read I can get out of him. Maybe CWAC?

4. Booknewt - I was iffy about the reasoning behind voting TwinStorm last cycle. But now that I wrote out my thoughts on TwinStorm, it makes more sense to me. Other than that, the reasoning for suspecting people to be Rebels because they voted Ksauce also seems to assume Rebels know who they’re aligned with

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9. Fura - Entered D2. I like the one post that they had to try and figure out things. Also have a little reason to trust them after exchanging messages

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That said, out of the active people, I’m least inclined to trust the first four at the moment. For now, my vote is on Unknown because I want to hear more about his thoughts on the game and other players. And he’s also one of the players who didn’t vote last cycle, which aligns with my theory that other Rebels might also have avoided voting like Stink did

I feel like if you are narrowing down who you are voting on to the top 4, Unknown is the person you seem to have the least thoughts on how or why they are evil yet you are voting on them. Potentially indicative of trying to look like you're trying to solve the game while not contributing to killing your team. That being said, I like your vibe and analysis!

Oh, way too quick to start to trust me based on what little I said in PMs. Feels a little like trying to pocket me but I'm old and don't trust my instincts anymore xD

 Still waiting on current PM responses which will color my thoughts a lot more.

12 hours ago, Divergent said:

I think it’s probably close to impossible to read anything from the kill. Traditional game night kills are already hard to read as people could be killed for any reason: being trusted, having a particular role, diversion kill, random. With this game and the possibility that it could be as high as five different choices, it really limits anything that can be gleaned from it. I’m still confused by the Stink kill too.

Agree with the idea that rebels and ISB will most likely act identically since both are practically uninformed factions until the rebel spymaster starts to find its members. Can you explain more how or why private reads would be beneficial to us rather than laying those thoughts in the open?

Not part of read but just realized I never responded. I just think elims are trying to find each other and so there will be more slips in PMs than in the thread where them trying to find elims will look more like village.

5. BookNewt - Slight elim

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  First, weird PM interaction is coloring all of this

On 10/25/2025 at 6:09 PM, Booknewt said:

Getting a wolf read on Unknown, bc the best way to not get thought of as the rebel spymaster would be to say you're the rebel spymaster, but that might also be way overthinking "wine in front of me". Bc then again, if I were wolf, i wouldn't make a joke like that, but Unknown's experienced enough... Yeah I'm doing "wine in front of me" thinking. 

Not going to vote for him for now, bc unless my tally is wrong, he's dangerously close to being voted out rn, and I don't want that to happen just bc of a random weird line of thinking.

Going to refrain from voting until I read through in more detail, but I'll prob make up a tally so far to help clear things out (will edit this post if no other ones are made)

First post D1. Not really indicative of anything due to it being the first post and seeming that they only skimmed the thread, though I will say voicing a suspicion and not voting on them is at least worth bringing up.

  

On 10/25/2025 at 8:06 PM, Booknewt said:

alr I give up doing voting counts. My deepest apologies to all people I messed up their votes, it was truly inadvertent. I'll do them tomorrow, but today I am operating on 4 hours of sleep and an entire trunk-or-treat's worth of sugar. If this gets me voted out, ig I learned a lesson about SE while sleep deprived and sugar high.

Not really leaning any particular way for Ksauce and STINK, and don't rly want to jump on the bandwagon.

Kind of find it interesting Twin only pmed some people, bc Experience said he didn't get one and I didn't either. So he feels more like a spymaster to me - only pming people he's getting a wolf read from. I found Doc dming everyone odd at first, but handselecting seems odder. Might change this if anyone seems more suspect / i actually summon the mental facilities to do a more accurate analysis of posts.

So yeah, at least for now - Twinstorm

Created the 3-way tie between Ksauce, STINK, and TwinStorm. neutral behavior

  

On 10/25/2025 at 8:51 PM, Booknewt said:

On 10/25/2025 at 8:36 PM, TwinStorm said:

I only PMed certain people becuz I didn't feel like spamming everyone, just the people I thought I could get info from 

I messaged the veterans, mostly so I could have their anaylsis later on, and some players who I like their reads in general

speciifically I PMed Kas, TUH, Doc, KSauce and Hoid Slayer, with STINK PMing me

ohhhhhh okay that makes sense. Yeah that list does not seem particularly suspicious at all. So, TwinStorm.

aaaand now I'm back to square 1 with no good reads.

Very quick to back off TwinStorm after very mild pushback and importantly the "back to square 1" feels weird after them basically admitting this wasn't firm reasoning by backing off so quick. slight rebel behavior (also just realized I guess I wasn't PMed as a veteran for analysis either so rip xD)

On 10/26/2025 at 11:04 AM, Booknewt said:

I got the certain word and two planets dead drops as well. It looks like those were sent to a LOT of people, at least assuming that everyone who got them actually got them.

I cant use bold to highlight things cause they did in their post xD anyways... Has anyone else gotten 2 messages in one night? I got 1 both nights and the assuming part reads a little as if maybe they know that some people (maybe themselves) are lying about getting these messages. Maybe one was sent idk I'm speculating.

On 10/26/2025 at 11:04 AM, Booknewt said:

Going to cut Divergent some slack for now bc he's new, but I do want to hear what his reasoning was. (then again I have been guilty in the past of not voting sm bc feel bad about it, see Unknown yesterday)

New player saying they will be cutting new players slack. Mostly neutral but could be nefarious

The rest of that post was good analysis and voted for the player the analysis was most sus of. Slight ISB.

16 hours ago, Booknewt said:

alr. Leaning increasingly more village for Experience, bc out of the blue vote draws attention, which is bad for elim, and also had the correct answer to my question. Doesn't eliminate deepwolf worlds, but it's enough for now in my mind.

Leaning more village for Doc too, which kinda solidifies my vote bc I have no good leads except in deepwolf worlds, so suspicious is the best I have rn. I need to stop being so trusting of everyone's reasons why they're innocent...

I'm always sus of people saying they have no reads, but less so in this game than normal so neutral, but might come back to this later

6 hours ago, Booknewt said:

Lotus is acting very concerned that suspicion'll build on him (dm'ed me asking about why I said he felt off) which I can't decide if it's a wolf trying to hide or a genuine new player.

New player thing again. Personally I think we should analyze new players how we analyze anyone. I just personally like to wait a day or two before acting on those thoughts... So today I'm not super against killing a new player.  

5 hours ago, Booknewt said:

Yeah, that's fair. Frankly, if I were an Elim giving a reason, I would... not cite a flipped Elim as my reason, so the suspiciousness of that makes me think v!Lotus. Could be deepwolfing, but it's still early for that, and a new player's not likely to do that anyway. So Lotus.

@CoderDrag0n8, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the game.
 

flipped quick on the vote. I get it was a flimsy vote, but still. Slight rebel.  

3 hours ago, Booknewt said:

Alr. Not going to jump on the Argenti train quite yet, although I am suspicious of him, bc my jumping on the train yesterday for partially similar reasons ended badly, so I want to see his defense first.

Argenti didn't get a message, so there are a few possible worlds there.
v!Argenti: Elims didn't think was a rebel, which is... unhelpful for narrowing down elims bc everyone who was active seemed to be suspicious of Argenti yesterday except for Worldhopper, who didn't mention him one way or the other.
e!Argenti: Either sent message and doesn't want to self-claim, or didn't send message so said no to avoid being wrong.
Or for either world, if he didn't send the message, wasn't active enough to get a message sent to him.

In a traditional game, I'd call this hedging. It's still hedging and evil can have an idea of who each other are by this point, it's just hard to bet on it. Still, slight rebel.

Edit: I should mention that doc and Kas are right about mine. I got told 1/3 players were evil and it's the exact same message as IHAT/Lotus

Edited October 27, 2025 by Furamirionind
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[Divergent He/Him]

Hiya, I just woke up. Before anything, feel free to call me Dive lol. It rolls better when said and I mostly just use Divergent, so the reference is not lost.

Anyways,

9 hours ago, Kasimir said:

6 hours ago, Kasimir said:

We're lucky the last Head Honcho found a good successor.

Specifically wrt the Lotus thing I was talking about since I was kind of rushed yesterday, Lotus approached me in a PM, IDR at what point, and then later claimed to be trying to appear sus or difficult to read so neither side could tell which team he was on. I felt it was interesting - like I can see some merit to being a bit tough to read but obviously en masse, it's a bad environment for the Village to work in, and Lotus further volunteered after some questioning to try to understand his mindset that this strategy emerged from a convo with STINK as a way to have fun in the game.

A. I can see this organically emerging and I definitely think STINK is the sort of player to encourage another player to just have fun.

B. I kind of feel like going "yeah btw a flipped Elim encouraged me to act sus and be hard to read and I'm going it" is a weird kind of thesis statement to make for your gameplay. There's some ? about how E!Lotus acts, but I feel like your instinct is normally not to immediately credit it to the flipped Elim.

There's also a thing where both Lotus and I wanna say Newt are not connected with yesterday's rancor message (I'm not sure it's very STINK either) :

I'd like a way to firm up a Coder/Argenti/ACE read. I theoretically have something on the rest even if it's misguided, so PoE kind of pushes me there for the moment. I probably am letting someone off in the <Doc, Storm, Divergent, Fura> set too quickly, but that needs me to have the mind to sit down and go through their posts slowly which is not happening in the next hour.

Imagine if the game just ended on Cycle 1 

Also, that’s interesting to know about Lotus. Yeah, I don’t think a rebel would outright say that they got this kind of strategy from someone who flipped rebel. Then again, you did mention that he said this after further questioning, which I think makes it also possible that he caved in to the pressure and, so the honesty would be less organic in that sense. That said, I do trust him for the moment. We’ve messaged a fair bit and he came across as genuine. I think for the most part, I feel he came off as suspicious due to not explaining his reasoning clearly

5 hours ago, Kasimir said:

With Argenti, in context it's a very "no u!" (OMGUS if you play elsewhere, don't ask me to spell it out because it's not considered polite so we don't use the term here) retaliatory type reflex in response to copping flak/sus, and I think newer Elims are especially prone to it, particularly when uncoached. Not ruling out it could come from a Villager headspace, but it's where I'm currently at.

I think a lot of newer players in general OMGUS regardless of alignment. Usually, it’s just kind of a defense mechanism to being pressed by someone, so I don’t think I would necessarily be suspicious over that.

I’m more suspicious of the fact that I see him on the thread more times than not when I’m posting, but he chooses not to engage at all. He did mention being busy, I think, but also he could have just answered some of the questions like why he voted for TwinStorm last day. So I’m quite confused by the slot because it could either be just a newer villager who’s overwhelmed by the game or a newer rebel who’s avoiding saying much in an effort to avoid giving themselves away

41 minutes ago, IHadAThought said:

For the duraluminum question, I theorized to Kas that there might have been three dead drops yesterday, one with a keyword of durasteel, one with duraluminum, and one for the planet one. 

Hmmm do the durasteel and duraluminum message have the same content? If so, if we assume that’s real, then I think it’s possible to be a coordinated attempt by the Spymaster and a recruited Rebel because it would be unlikely otherwise. 

But wait, that would be impossible because the message was sent on Cycle 1 before it arrives on Cycle 2, so there’s not really an opportunity to coordinate yet. So either Argenti misremembered it or outright lied about it

[Myst He/Him]

Argenti never said anything about the message, I haven’t really talked to him, it’s just that in day2 he referred to the message as the duraluminum one, not the durasteel one, which made me suspect that there might’ve been another message, I haven’t gotten anything from Argenti yet

[Argenti he/him]

1 hour ago, Doc12 said:

The discrepancy we found was that Lotus told Me that they didn't receive a message but told Kas they did. They further claimed to me and apparently Kas that Argenti and TwinStorm received messages, which Argenti is denying and TwinStorm hasn't responded. 

What on earth. Lotus is just lying

I'm changing my vote. (That's something I can do right?)

 

Just now, IHadAThought said:

Argenti never said anything about the message, I haven’t really talked to him, it’s just that in day2 he referred to the message as the duraluminum one, not the durasteel one, which made me suspect that there might’ve been another message, I haven’t gotten anything from Argenti yet

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Was it not duraluminium? Lowkey might have forgotten to check

 

4 hours ago, Kasimir said:

2. I also wanna confirm - Lotus / Argenti: did Argenti receive or not receive a separate message yesterday, with the term duraluminum instead? This would be a third message circulating yesterday if so. I feel like I'm getting contradictory info from Lotus and from Argenti via Doc so I wanna know what is happening because someone is lying here and that's caught my attention.

 

Completely honestly, I'm just to cosmere-pilled and read "dura-" and auto filled the rest. It says durasteel

41 minutes ago, Divergent said:

But wait, that would be impossible because the message was sent on Cycle 1 before it arrives on Cycle 2, so there’s not really an opportunity to coordinate yet. So either Argenti misremembered it or outright lied about it

yeah I just have dementia

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Argenti said:

What on earth. Lotus is just lying

I'm changing my vote. (That's something I can do right?)

 

 

I never said you received a message today, just just that I thought you might’ve based on the fact that I got one that seemed to be a continuation of the durasteel message. As for yesterday, I got the durasteel message yesterday, and concluded that because you mention duraluminum, not durasteel, there might’ve been a third message yesterday

edit: yes, Argenti, you can change your vote

Edited October 27, 2025 by IHadAThought

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

30 minutes ago, Divergent said:

I’m more suspicious of the fact that I see him on the thread more times than not when I’m posting, but he chooses not to engage at all. He did mention being busy, I think, but also he could have just answered some of the questions like why he voted for TwinStorm last day. So I’m quite confused by the slot because it could either be just a newer villager who’s overwhelmed by the game or a newer rebel who’s avoiding saying much in an effort to avoid giving themselves away

Honestly, the very fact that he's continuing to do that is what makes me hesitant on voting him. If I were an elim and something I was doing was very, very clearly making everyone suspicious, I'd try to change my behavior somewhat. At least I'd stay off the thread more. So v!Argenti almost makes more sense to me, although I can absolutely see e!Argenti.

Still leaning v!Lotus, bc as I mentioned above, the obvious suspiciousness of his behavior (citing getting a strategy from a flipped elim) is a village indicator in my mind, at least for a new player. 

1 hour ago, Furamirionind said:

1. TwinStorm - Slight Elim  

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On 10/25/2025 at 7:51 PM, TwinStorm said:

Rebel Spymaster?  

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obviously jokes though feels a bit like a self aware evil to me

On 10/26/2025 at 10:08 AM, TwinStorm said:

huh okay

thats weird and slightly unfortunate for the rebels, but still yay

anyways, Ksauce kill is unfortunate, but my reasoning for stating that train was a) we have no circumstantial evidence, but we must vote someone out, b) he's not super active but also fairly good at the game

what drop box messages did you receive? I received one about durasteel and one threatening one

Reaction to STINK dying seems fake. Also strangely defensive for starting the train on Ksauce  

On 10/26/2025 at 5:01 PM, TwinStorm said:

Rebel Spymaster?  

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Presents logic as to who to target and then goes in a completely different direction. I don't agree with the logic, but doesn't read as ISB

I like your reasoning here honestly, hadn't considered it before but "that's weird and slightly unfortunate" comes off... oddly. I disagree with the read on the "Rebel Spymaster?" joke, but the rest of that is still odd enough that i'm going to vote for him. Additionally, he brought up the drop box messages, which looks good on the face of it, but could very well be him self-indicating, so I'm not sure that can be read either way. 

So yeah for now: TwinStorm

1 hour ago, Furamirionind said:

In a traditional game, I'd call this hedging. It's still hedging and evil can have an idea of who each other are by this point, it's just hard to bet on it. Still, slight rebel.

Yeah I will call it hedging too. I'm bad at making decisions quickly. I need to work on it. I can see where you're coming from for most of the rest of it, although I still question your technique in the pm, bc I have no idea how that was supposed to catch the person who sent the message.

(ignore this I couldn't get rid of it )

 

1 hour ago, Furamirionind said:1. TwinStorm - Slight Elim  

In a traditional game, I'd call this hedging. It's still hedging and evil can have an idea of who each other are by this point, it's just hard to bet on it. Still, slight rebel.

[Argenti he/him]

4 minutes ago, IHadAThought said:

I never said you received a message today, just just that I thought you might’ve based on the fact that I got one that seemed to be a continuation of the durasteel message. As for yesterday, I got the durasteel message yesterday, and concluded that because you mention duraluminum, not durasteel, there might’ve been a third message yesterday

edit: yes, Argenti, you can change your vote

Many thanks. That makes more sense. I didn't receive a message last night, just the two we all know about.

 

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Argenti said:

Many thanks. That makes more sense. I didn't receive a message last night, just the two we all know about.

 

I didn’t pm you, which I should’ve, so I get where the misunderstanding came from, I should’ve been more clear about it, so my bad.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

7 hours ago, Booknewt said:

I didn't get it, so it's possible elims are narrowing in on who they think is more likely to be an elim. 

Lotus is acting very concerned that suspicion'll build on him (dm'ed me asking about why I said he felt off) which I can't decide if it's a wolf trying to hide or a genuine new player.

I really hope there aren't 5 rebels left (going off the hypothesis of 6) bc if so they achieve parity in one day, assuming we don't find someone and no friendly fire on their part. So... yeah this game is going to be hard.

Back to reads (with screaming in helpless confusion removed):
Hoid Slayer, Argenti, -ACE-, could be purposefully staying out of thread, particularly Argenti bc they've been active but haven't done much. But I'm hesistant to use that reasoning again bc we just used that reasoning for Unknown.

No clue for anyone else - mostly positive, but that can't be true can it. 

So maybe Lotus, at least until I get some better reads.

Yeah... I was so sure it was Experience then I was so sure it was Unknown and... nope to both apparently!

Sorry

Hoid has not purposefully been staying out of thread

In fact, I'm working with Drake to get me a pinch hitter. I really shouldn't have signed up to this game. It's sad, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Kas, as it seems you care, I received two messages the first night and one the second.

Coming Later  stood in the cold outside the ISB building. He felt the wind rush past him, the ruffles on his coat. And let a tear run down his face.

He had failed his Empire.

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Sorry

Hoid has not purposefully been staying out of thread

In fact, I'm working with Drake to get me a pinch hitter. I really shouldn't have signed up to this game. It's sad, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Yeah I get it. Was more of just including you for completeness' sake. 

Hopefully you can make some other game!


As for the Hoid receiving a message - It could be that the person sending the messages was suspicious he was a rebel, or if he got a different keyword than other people it could be just covering all bases about the people who the sender wasn't certain weren't rebels. So we can't read much into that unfortunately

[Argenti he/him]

I do like people's analysis of twinstorm- and my gut is telling me to vote him.
Kasimir

Twinstorm

[Kasimir he/him]

6 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Kas, as it seems you care, I received two messages the first night and one the second.

Which two? Able to specify?

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Which two? Able to specify?

I don't know what you guys have talked about already, but

Day one, I got a message from our Friendly Neighborhood ISB Traitor and the Durasteel one it seems you guys have already talked about

Day two, I got a follow up on Durasteel

And AHHHHHH I really want to read over everything now 

Stupid homework 

Also

I have absolutely zero context, so take this with the most grains of salt you possibly can

6 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I do like people's analysis of twinstorm- and my gut is telling me to vote him.
Kasimir

Twinstorm

I don't like the way this is written

Not gonna vote though because I don't trust my gut on a single message

Godspeed, my comrades

May the force smile upon you

[Argenti he/him]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Day two, I got a follow up on Durasteel

 

That's new.

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

Did no one else get the message Kas got?

Edit: on mobile this is hard @Argenti thats the same that Lotus and i got

Edited October 27, 2025 by Furamirionind