deep substrate foliated kalkite QF77: (S)Andor(son) Elimination

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

26 minutes ago, Experience said:

1 hour ago, Booknewt said:

Did the message you got contain a planet whose name started with C? 

Nope.

1 hour ago, Booknewt said:

Any reasoning for that in particular? It's a bit out of the blue...

Mhm. To make some noise.

alr. Leaning increasingly more village for Experience, bc out of the blue vote draws attention, which is bad for elim, and also had the correct answer to my question. Doesn't eliminate deepwolf worlds, but it's enough for now in my mind.

Leaning more village for Doc too, which kinda solidifies my vote bc I have no good leads except in deepwolf worlds, so suspicious is the best I have rn. I need to stop being so trusting of everyone's reasons why they're innocent...

[Myst He/Him]

1 hour ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Uggggghh are you kidding me it just deleted my entire post.

Reads:

TUH: This post could be TUH just joking, as he claims, but it almost feels like he's trying to actually recruit. I might just be fishing for reads, though.

@IHadAThought: why would the elims want no vote? This early in the game, we're more likely to vote out a villager, so voting would actually be good for them C1. I'm with somebody else who said this: IHAT seems a little sus, but their new and I was storming awful my first game, so I'll cut them a little slack.

Also, Doc PMs everyone. It's just his style.

Doc: Doc hasn't done any fishing in PMs, so I'm giving him a faint v!lean, but I've played in games where Doc has been elim and pocketed everybody via PM, so I'm taking my opinions with a grain of salt.

Divergent: I don't like their excuse for why they protected STINK, but A) they're new & they couldn't have known who each other were (unless they were really lucky), so that doesn't really matter. I am liking the analysis.

Coder: said that KSOHS trusted him, but could just be maneuvering (I don't know how much I believe in Coder's manipulative abilities )

Drake: bad GM, didn't let me be R2D2

Note: I will edit in the link, I just didn't want to risk losing my post.

Okay, I'm going to double post, sorry. First off, if anyone had any interactions with STINK in PMs, it would be helpful to look at that. @DrakeMarshall, do you mind if we quote directly from PMs?

I can't be on for very much longer, but I would like to look at who STINK was leaning towards, because obviously multiple people felt threatened. Inversely, whoever he liked would probably be better to look at for villager, because they would probably like to keep STINK around.

This is the last I'll be on this cycle, so nobody start a train on me like last game please.

Yes, right now they’re more likely, but if they can delay it by one round, then later, when they is a higher likelihood of us voting out a rebel, it’s one round later than normal, if that makes sense

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

2 hours ago, Experience said:

Also to clarify Fura I wasn't saying I wasn't a veteran, I was saying because they didn't include me in the list they didn't consider me to be a veteran

Ahhh makes sense lol

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

3. Lotus — if I'm dead just know I've expressed (D1) uncertainty around this slot but also feel Lotus made a statement in PMs that connects with STINK and I'm not sure an Elim immediately says they're taking slightly anti-Village tactical advice from a dead Elim.

Was that communicated D1 or D2 in PMs?

1 hour ago, Booknewt said:

And yet I can find additional reasons to be suspect of him - he's being active but not trying to solve, which is... indicative. Also don't know who else to vote. 

So, bc I am a hypocrite (obligatory "Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing") who can semi-criticize Worldhopper for doing the same thing I'm about to do... The Unknown Hammerer.

I get the joke-y nature of this post but this reads really sus to me as a train is forming... Like, what... at most there could be 2 elims who 100% know who each other are at the moment so I assume this isn't to save someone else but many trains usually have at least 1 elim in them imo.

2 hours ago, Experience said:

Fura

I thought I knew what this was about but I'm very confused lol

2 hours ago, IHadAThought said:

pming everyone isn’t always the good thing to do as the new people aren’t going to know much, it’s the veteran players that you’d want to talk to. To me this feels like a rebel(or spymaster) trying to find allies

57 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

I also don't like and have never liked the distinctions about 'vets'. I don't think it's helpful to say 'you really only want to talk to vets and not the new players because they don't know anything'. 

I second this. First, new players can be very good at the game, don't sell yourself short. Secondly, I think it's valuable to talk to new players. I think there's a few I haven't gotten yet but I'm trying to have PMs with all the new players who are equally parts of this game and just as likely to be good/evil as any other player. 

I think the reasoning on Unknown Makes sense. I don't like how quickly this formed but I'm not opposed to it purely because elims don't know who each other are yet. I also think Argenti is still a good vote and am for tying this round between 2 (maybe 3) people. Definitely not more though. In early rounds, especially in this game, I'm generally more supportive of voting off players who are going under the radar (sorry but hopefully my posts are somewhat making up for missing the first day lol). I don't want to definitively say Argenti should have responded to my vote on them earlier as real life and leaving a computer open can affect this, but the thread did say they were online for a while after my ping on them and I assumed they were responding and never did.

For those who have played with me in the past, I am notoriously bad at vote counts as I am color blind... so please double check me but here is my attempt (starting from my last post):

IHAT(1): Kas, Coder
Doc(1): IHAT
Divergent(0): Doc
Experience(0): Booknewt
TwinSoul(1): Argenti
Argenti(2): Fura, Doc, 
Unknown(5): TwinStorm, Divergent, Kas, ThatOneWorldhopper, Booknewt
Fura(!): Exp.
(already had to go back and fix twice for errors I caught lol)

Edit: formatting Edit2: Added TwinStorm in votecount

Edited October 27, 2025 by Furamirionind

[Divergent He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

I don't want to definitively say Argenti should have responded to my vote on them earlier as real life and leaving a computer open can affect this, but the thread did say they were online for a while after my ping on them and I assumed they were responding and never did.

For those who have played with me in the past, I am notoriously bad at vote counts as I am color blind... so please double check me but here is my attempt (starting from my last post):

IHAT(1): Kas, Coder
Doc(1): IHAT
Divergent(0): Doc
Experience(0): Booknewt
TwinSoul(1): Argenti
Argenti(2): Fura, Doc, 
Unknown(4): Divergent, Kas, ThatOneWorldhopper, Booknewt
Fura(!): Exp.
(already had to go back and fix twice for errors I caught lol)

Edit: formatting

Yeah, I’ve seen Argenti around too and I thought they’d say more, so they’re also currently on my radar

TwinStorm voted for Unknown too before anyone else did

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Here's my current tally:

TUH (5) - Booknewt, TOW, Kas, Divergent, TwinStorm
Argenti (2) - Fura, Doc12
IHAT (1) - CD
Fura (1) - Experience
TwinStorm (1) - Argenti
Doc12 (1) - IHAT

It seems to agree with Fura's count so that's a good sign.

also there's less than an hour left in day two

btw do those of you whose names I abbreviated like those abbreviations I can call you something different that's just what I've been using in spreadsheets for brevity

Edited October 27, 2025 by DrakeMarshall

[Myst He/Him]

I haven’t seen argenti at all, but everyone voting unknown is weird, especially since he kinda refused to defend himself earlier 

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

4 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Yeah, I’ve seen Argenti around too and I thought they’d say more, so they’re also currently on my radar

TwinStorm voted for Unknown too before anyone else did

Ok, I made that edit, and 5 people voting on one person definitely makes me feel a little uncomfortable... Even though going through their past posts which sidenote:

3 hours ago, Divergent said:

Also, is there a way to isolate posts by person? Had to scroll the threads again and again to read through people’s posts and idk if there was an easier way to do that

I did by just opening their profile and looking through most recent posts. Can be harder with people active on multiple threads but works pretty good for the most part. You can also see a longer history by clicking "See their activity" button which is all the way to the right and under the profile banner.

So going through their past posts they seem like they have been potentially intentionally being unhelpful... and I personally am not going to oppose a kill in that case... Though if some people haven't voted, I would love to see this vote tied or at least to see some votes.

5 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Here's my current tally:

TUH (5) - Booknewt, TOW, Kas, Divergent, TwinStorm
Argenti (2) - Fura, Doc12
IHAT (1) - CD
Fura (1) - Experience
TwinStorm (1) - Argenti
Doc12 (1) - IHAT

It seems to agree with Fura's count so that's a good sign.

also there's less than an hour left in day two

Or a bad sign  xD

Ooh and cool I thought rollover was in 3-4 hours for some reason lol

[Myst He/Him]

Has anyone gotten pmed by Unknown?

[Experience he/him]

7 minutes ago, IHadAThought said:

Has anyone gotten pmed by Unknown?

Not 1 on 1, no.

[Kasimir he/him]

Whoever asked— D2 PM wrt Lotus. Sorry typing and running is toxic.

[Myst He/Him]

10 minutes ago, Experience said:

Not 1 on 1, no.

What do you mean by this? have you messaged as like a group? With you Unknown and like Kas or someone 

*just using Kas as a fill in person

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, IHadAThought said:

What do you mean by this? have you messaged as like a group? With you Unknown and like Kas or someone 

*just using Kas as a fill in person

I made a group PM that included Unknown, STINK, Doc, Exp, etc. Not a trust group obviously, just did it for personal entertainment. Mostly been a "yo you were loltastic when I PMed you before so soddit lets do it again" except in a big group.

Trying to decide if Unknown's one mention of [REDACTED] in there reflects a Village mindset.

[Myst He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I made a group PM that included Unknown, STINK, Doc, Exp, etc. Not a trust group obviously, just did it for personal entertainment. Mostly been a "yo you were loltastic when I PMed you before so soddit lets do it again" except in a big group.

Trying to decide if Unknown's one mention of [REDACTED] in there reflects a Village mindset.

The only thing I know of that’s [redacted] is that I used it in a few pm message titles because I thought it’d be fun, beyond that, idk know anything 

Edit: the day seems to be ending soon, so hopefully no one I like dies

Edited October 27, 2025 by IHadAThought

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

The day has ended! new one up soon

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

DAY THREE

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

All hands on deck. There has been an incident on Aldhani with probable rebel involvement.

Aldhani was formerly the responsibility of the Imperial Navy to manage, but the Bureau has been assigned damage control.

So, we monitor and control the spread of information on the event. Remember that without something to organize around, there is no rebellion. Additionally, certain factors of the recent event seem to have required insider information. Some of you will be assigned additional cases this quarter to thoroughly audit all of the personnel involved.

On a different note, Agent Unknown has been reassigned to an undisclosed location. I'm afraid the metaphor of a dark forest does not quite suit the methods of the Bureau. It is precisely our job to shed light on the secret places and drive off all the shadows. Fortunately, there are many ways of serving the empire, and we have found a different one perhaps more fitting for Agent Unknown.

That is all.

---

Garthyl Karn elbows his way through a crowded square, then ducks into a cramped alley.

He's already sent word ahead to schedule a meeting with somebody higher up the chain of command, but was intentionally sparse on the details. This has to be delivered in person. The HoloNet isn't secure.

The intercepted transmission, the delayed shipment, it all makes sense now. A smoking gun. Proof at last. Organized rebellion under everyone's noses, with plants in the ISB itself.

He's rehearsing what he'll say as he hurries out the other end of the alley, picturing the commendations and promotions he'll earn when all of this is done. He's not looking where he's going, and certainly not looking up.

The falling crate kills him instantly.

A terrible accident, the HoloNet news reports later that day. Negligent repairs and a rushed job of unloading a delayed shipment lead to an unfortunate chain of failures, resulting in the tragic death of a promising member of the Imperial Security Bureau.

That's the official story the ISB feeds to the public, but it's certainly not the one they believe. Security measures are quietly tightened on Coruscant.

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@The Unknown Hammerer has been sent to Narkina 5! He was an ISB Analyst.

@Experience has died in a suspicious accident! He was an ISB Tech.

Rules Errata: For the purposes of the MEDICAL ability, "perils" specifically means stuff that can kill you.

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Vote Tally

TUH (5) - Booknewt, TOW, Kas, Divergent, TwinStorm
Argenti (2) - Fura, Doc12
IHAT (1) - CD
Fura (1) - Experience
TwinStorm (1) - Argenti
Doc12 (1) - IHAT

Player List

1. @TwinStorm as Johnny Kuplack 

2. @Doc12 as Cal Kyte 

3. The Unknown Hammer as Unknown ISB ANALYST

4. @Divergent as Zeke Slane 

5. @Booknewt as Reka Wismil 

6. KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren as Kreen ISB SUPERVISOR

7. @CoderDrag0n8 as Your Mistakes 

8. @Argenti as Jallo Delste 

9. @ThatOneWorldhopper as Dying Right Now 

10. @Hoid Slayer as Coming Later 

11. @Furamirionind as Kimrick Hammyr 

12. Experience as Garthyl Karn ISB TECH

13. @-ACE- as Jasher Shea 

14. @IHadAThought as Lotus 

15. STINK as Kal REBEL TECH

16. @Kasimir as Korun 

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

Sorry Exp it still doesn't make sense xD... Obv you weren't supposed to die but oh well. 

So Exp was putting forward a good amount of analysis, though definitely wasn't as comprehensive as some... and wasn't particularly suspicious based on what people were saying here... Though I was suspicious of them... So I'm not 100% sure what the goal was there. Perhaps just because they hadn't been super vocal against anyone in particular so it could be a safe kill and not make people target or trust anyone? But with the elims not knowing each other, that wouldn't matter much either. Anyways, may be a PM reason.

Here's the thing I think is important... As great as it is that we have players trying to do analysis and solve the game, to do that we need info... and unfortunately I believe that in thread for at least days 1-3/4 rebels and ISB will act essentially identically (basically until Rebels start to find each other). So... Yesterday I spent a good bit of time PMing people... If I haven't opened a PM with you, feel free to PM me. I think private reads are going to be pretty important this game. 

[Myst He/Him]

I think that maybe they killed him because of the analysis, which suggests that he may have been right in some of what he said

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

Let's see if I remember how to do this...

Kasimir

[Divergent He/Him]

1 hour ago, Furamirionind said:

So Exp was putting forward a good amount of analysis, though definitely wasn't as comprehensive as some... and wasn't particularly suspicious based on what people were saying here... Though I was suspicious of them... So I'm not 100% sure what the goal was there. Perhaps just because they hadn't been super vocal against anyone in particular so it could be a safe kill and not make people target or trust anyone? But with the elims not knowing each other, that wouldn't matter much either. Anyways, may be a PM reason.

Here's the thing I think is important... As great as it is that we have players trying to do analysis and solve the game, to do that we need info... and unfortunately I believe that in thread for at least days 1-3/4 rebels and ISB will act essentially identically (basically until Rebels start to find each other). So... Yesterday I spent a good bit of time PMing people... If I haven't opened a PM with you, feel free to PM me. I think private reads are going to be pretty important this game. 

I think it’s probably close to impossible to read anything from the kill. Traditional game night kills are already hard to read as people could be killed for any reason: being trusted, having a particular role, diversion kill, random. With this game and the possibility that it could be as high as five different choices, it really limits anything that can be gleaned from it. I’m still confused by the Stink kill too.

Agree with the idea that rebels and ISB will most likely act identically since both are practically uninformed factions until the rebel spymaster starts to find its members. Can you explain more how or why private reads would be beneficial to us rather than laying those thoughts in the open?

51 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

Let's see if I remember how to do this...

Kasimir

 Interesting, I’d like to know the reasoning for this vote

[Kasimir he/him]

Another message. Trying to work out if this one is from someone smarter or not as this might actually work (not sure, tired tbh.) It's the message with a public/private component with a validation feature that might succeed. Likelihood is multiple people received it, but I'm considering how much to say since it might give the other Elims some idea of what they could try compared to whoever this is.

Anyway:

14 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

Kas doesn't seem like he's looking for teammates, just wants to discuss wrestling

The last two days have been this meme man:

Spoiler

At this point it's just depressing to be a fan they sending my demon off the bench then back to the bench then maybe off the bench then back to the bench then OFF THE BENCH WITH A GUY MENTIONED FOURTY-FOUR TIMES IN A LAWSUIT icl it's despair-inducing I would just like to not feel anything anymore. And if you PM me, you will bloody well hear about it!

3 hours ago, Divergent said:

Agree with the idea that rebels and ISB will most likely act identically since both are practically uninformed factions until the rebel spymaster starts to find its members. Can you explain more how or why private reads would be beneficial to us rather than laying those thoughts in the open?

I'm coming around to the view FWIW that it's just going to be a maximal lost wolf game but given the Spymaster essentially has an inverse scan, the Spymaster and any docmates will start to acquire significant TMI late into the game. I think the TMI is detectable through weird village reads early in the game and that is probably something we should try to look for since the Spymaster will have less fog of war than most. (I think we also can say we don't need to worry about the Head Honcho being as easily confused in this case since even the Head Honcho has some uncertainty (unrecruited Rebel) whereas the only thing stopping the Spymaster (I think) is a once-a-game RB.

Maximal lost wolf does mean there's an incentive for deepwolf play, or simply staying out of the way and letting the thread just make as many mistakes as possible (since on that view, as long as the Spymaster is alive and able to designate a decent successor, well.) I've been trying to look at people who fit the latter profile a little that I had no positive reasons to read, largely for pragmatist reasons of not wanting to open the deepwolf box early.

(I suppose the other thing I would say is I do have some light sus of the people with a positive read on me, including you, Doc, and Storm given the levels of your play, and—not quite TMI concerns, more awareness of how Elims tend to prefer to handle me in a game, and there's some reason to think that approach might bear out here—but feel that's somewhat deepwolf territory due to some reason to have read you three positively prior to that (I do feel some of the read basis you've all expressed is a tad overcredenced which is probably why I am mildly concerned too), so I don't want to open that box before it's necessary, but it was at the back of my head and informing the post I made late last cycle urging the Village to remember we have to touch that box eventually. I slightly suspect the thread is subconsciously working with that view which is why we are voting in the low activity/disengaged pool, but at some point, have to really confront that possibility whether we want to or not.

I just also think overparanoiding early into the game is bad, especially in a game with high fog-of-war like this because the last thing you wanna do is erode reads confidence or encourage other Villagers to do so. tldr; revise assumptions if late into game with little success, but early on you gotta at least trust your reads, if you undermine them too much then you're in trouble.) [ @Booknewt - spelling out the thoughts more behind what you asked, and also for "if you're Village and I'm dead then you know to take what I'm saying in light of my alignment, maybe consider bracketing some of the deepwolf worlds (you can still think about them that's fine, but don't get carried away) until later."

tldr #2; I guess for the record it's 'ok still willing to keep the V!lean but I've a mental asterisk I probably should state for if/when I flip.'

5 hours ago, IHadAThought said:

I think that maybe they killed him because of the analysis, which suggests that he may have been right in some of what he said

I'll be honest, I'm slightly concerned this is showing a skew towards voting perceived veterans for the Rebel kill. I'm not really concerned with dying, I'm concerned in terms of what this reflects about mindset.

Edited to add:

Apologies, meant to add I bolded the line because I agree with Divergent's question. And no, Divergent, bunch of people told you already but we don't have fancy ISO features. There was a scraper bot at one point but yeah the forum doesn't play nice with them anymore.

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Another message. Trying to work out if this one is from someone smarter or not as this might actually work (not sure, tired tbh.) It's the message with a public/private component with a validation feature that might succeed. Likelihood is multiple people received it, but I'm considering how much to say since it might give the other Elims some idea of what they could try compared to whoever this is.

I didn't get it, so it's possible elims are narrowing in on who they think is more likely to be an elim. 

Lotus is acting very concerned that suspicion'll build on him (dm'ed me asking about why I said he felt off) which I can't decide if it's a wolf trying to hide or a genuine new player.

I really hope there aren't 5 rebels left (going off the hypothesis of 6) bc if so they achieve parity in one day, assuming we don't find someone and no friendly fire on their part. So... yeah this game is going to be hard.

Back to reads (with screaming in helpless confusion removed):
Hoid Slayer, Argenti, -ACE-, could be purposefully staying out of thread, particularly Argenti bc they've been active but haven't done much. But I'm hesistant to use that reasoning again bc we just used that reasoning for Unknown.

No clue for anyone else - mostly positive, but that can't be true can it. 

So maybe Lotus, at least until I get some better reads.

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

The last two days have been this meme man:

  Reveal hidden contents

At this point it's just depressing to be a fan they sending my demon off the bench then back to the bench then maybe off the bench then back to the bench then OFF THE BENCH WITH A GUY MENTIONED FOURTY-FOUR TIMES IN A LAWSUIT icl it's despair-inducing I would just like to not feel anything anymore. And if you PM me, you will bloody well hear about it!

Yeah... I was so sure it was Experience then I was so sure it was Unknown and... nope to both apparently!

[Kasimir he/him]

7 minutes ago, Booknewt said:

I really hope there aren't 5 rebels left (going off the hypothesis of 6) bc if so they achieve parity in one day, assuming we don't find someone and no friendly fire on their part. So... yeah this game is going to be hard.

We don't lose on parity although parity is rough for us because they effectively control the vote, but might not be coordinated (since they DK who their allies are and who the Head Honcho is) so fog-of-war then protects our Head Honcho 2.0. Our wincon is taking out the Spymaster, no matter the cost. Our losscon is if the Head Honcho X.0 goes down. We're lucky the last Head Honcho found a good successor.

It's basically just fog-of-war on stilts which is why I'm not overly concerned with modelling.

Fura can be V!lean for now.

Argenti, what's up?

Edited to add:

Specifically wrt the Lotus thing I was talking about since I was kind of rushed yesterday, Lotus approached me in a PM, IDR at what point, and then later claimed to be trying to appear sus or difficult to read so neither side could tell which team he was on. I felt it was interesting - like I can see some merit to being a bit tough to read but obviously en masse, it's a bad environment for the Village to work in, and Lotus further volunteered after some questioning to try to understand his mindset that this strategy emerged from a convo with STINK as a way to have fun in the game.

A. I can see this organically emerging and I definitely think STINK is the sort of player to encourage another player to just have fun.

B. I kind of feel like going "yeah btw a flipped Elim encouraged me to act sus and be hard to read and I'm going it" is a weird kind of thesis statement to make for your gameplay. There's some ? about how E!Lotus acts, but I feel like your instinct is normally not to immediately credit it to the flipped Elim.

There's also a thing where both Lotus and I wanna say Newt are not connected with yesterday's rancor message (I'm not sure it's very STINK either) :

20 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Can we suppose that the confusion means that neither Lotus nor Newt sent the Rancor message? I would assume that they'd not be able to make that kind of natural slip leading to confusion if they'd written it - there's TMI baked in there.

I'd like a way to firm up a Coder/Argenti/ACE read. I theoretically have something on the rest even if it's misguided, so PoE kind of pushes me there for the moment. I probably am letting someone off in the <Doc, Storm, Divergent, Fura> set too quickly, but that needs me to have the mind to sit down and go through their posts slowly which is not happening in the next hour.

Edited October 27, 2025 by Kasimir

[Ookla the Newt she/her]

13 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Specifically wrt the Lotus thing I was talking about since I was kind of rushed yesterday, Lotus approached me in a PM, IDR at what point, and then later claimed to be trying to appear sus or difficult to read so neither side could tell which team he was on. I felt it was interesting - like I can see some merit to being a bit tough to read but obviously en masse, it's a bad environment for the Village to work in, and Lotus further volunteered after some questioning to try to understand his mindset that this strategy emerged from a convo with STINK as a way to have fun in the game.

A. I can see this organically emerging and I definitely think STINK is the sort of player to encourage another player to just have fun.

B. I kind of feel like going "yeah btw a flipped Elim encouraged me to act sus and be hard to read and I'm going it" is a weird kind of thesis statement to make for your gameplay. There's some ? about how E!Lotus acts, but I feel like your instinct is normally not to immediately credit it to the flipped Elim.

Yeah, that's fair. Frankly, if I were an Elim giving a reason, I would... not cite a flipped Elim as my reason, so the suspiciousness of that makes me think v!Lotus. Could be deepwolfing, but it's still early for that, and a new player's not likely to do that anyway. So Lotus.

@CoderDrag0n8, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the game.
 

[Kasimir he/him]

5 minutes ago, Booknewt said:

Yeah, that's fair. Frankly, if I were an Elim giving a reason, I would... not cite a flipped Elim as my reason, so the suspiciousness of that makes me think v!Lotus. Could be deepwolfing, but it's still early for that, and a new player's not likely to do that anyway. So Lotus.

The 'new player' bit is what creates error bars IMO because they're just harder to read and tend to buck established meta. But my gameplan for today is to use the 'early' cycle time since I can be around later into the cycle (to lock in my vote or shift it) to try to fill out the last blank spots left in the PoE and then try to narrow down on whether anything jumps out in the players I've been up to this point V!reading by taking a closer look at how they're formulating their reads. Right now it's just a simple crude two-basket approach.

[Argenti he/him]

41 minutes ago, Booknewt said:

Hoid Slayer, Argenti, -ACE-, could be purposefully staying out of thread, particularly Argenti bc they've been active but haven't done much. But I'm hesistant to use that reasoning again bc we just used that reasoning for Unknown.

That would be very clever.

If I understood this game, and wasn't too busy to think.

36 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Argenti, what's up?

 

Very little. Too much. 

I frankly have no idea who it is, Kasimir.