TwinStorm He/Him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 6 hours ago, Walin said: Walin had survived through so much to get here. So…much. After the Pits of Hathsin were destroyed, he was in a daze. Food was scarce in the Pits, but it did exist, and outside the necessities of life were less of a guarantee. The two greatest boons were fewer beatings and executions. It still didn’t find him a place to sleep or something to eat. He didn’t know the streets well enough to barter away his bead of atium for a fair price. After days of starvation, he sold it for a place to sleep for a week. The irony of bartering such a treasure for no greater than he would ordinarily receive was not lost on him. But it was enough to get him on his feet. Bartering and scavenging for months, making deals when he could and fleeing when he had to, Walin found himself in a shelter enduring another systemic collapse. How funny it was, that he thought the Pits were the worst it could get. Of course, they were, for him personally, but now the world was at stake. That had to count for more. ——————————————— Uhhh I vote TJ. Bandwagon time. Sorry to do this to you D1. Walin. No reason to bandwagon D1, when we should just spread votes around. Sorry I haven't been very active, starting tomorrow I should be able to fully participate.
Doc12 Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 6 minutes ago, TwinStorm said: No reason to bandwagon D1, when we should just spread votes around. Unsavory as it is, I do agree that there is a reason to bandwagon. 19 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: The main thing roles-wise to be concerned about right now is eliminator vote manipulation. It would be best to aim for a 2-vote margin to deny the elims the ability to disrupt things (and I’d suggest village Soothers/Rioters use their abilities to support the current execution target). We want there to be a clear margin to see how the votes get manipulated and why. It's also helpful to build a majority to pressure people to speak, which worked in the case of TJ. Can I ask why you picked Walin? My strategy right now is simply trying to get people who haven't spoken to speak up. I'd like to know yours?
TwinStorm He/Him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 3 minutes ago, Doc12 said: Unsavory as it is, I do agree that there is a reason to bandwagon. We want there to be a clear margin to see how the votes get manipulated and why. It's also helpful to build a majority to pressure people to speak, which worked in the case of TJ. Can I ask why you picked Walin? My strategy right now is simply trying to get people who haven't spoken to speak up. I'd like to know yours? that's completely fair, but at this stage of the game, I think its important to cast a wide range of votes to see who responds suspiciously. My reasoning is the same as yours. Get people who have barely spoken (Walin has RPed 1 post, but barely given a sentence in analysis) to speak up, and voice their thoughts.
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 11 hours ago, Aeoryi said: You should probably evaluate where your biases lie, we encourage equity at this Hyena's house. Total coincidence. He was really fishy that first game. I am debating whether or not to change my vote, because Sart hasn't really been active and I don't think my vote will change that.
Doc12 Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Votes as they stand, five hours before rollover: Biplet: (2) Sart, Doc Sart: (1) Thatoneworldhopper |TJ|: (3) Aeoryi, Araris, Walin Araris: (1) TJ Walin: (1) Twinstorm Current running analysis. The TJ bandwagon: - Aeoryi started the TJ vote. As I said, I'm still confused that Aeoryi seems to have a solid suspicion but has not changed their vote. Aeoryi also claims to feel bad about the bandwagon. Again, if you have a solid suspicion and feel bad for the current vote leader of a train you started, why not change your vote then? - Araris started by voting for Twinstorm, then changed it to TJ when Aeoryi pointed TJ out. Nothing too suspicious here, Araris seems consistent on wanting to vote someone out by a significant margin to stop vote manipulation. - I (Doc) hopped on the TJ vote as I too wanted to prod them into speaking and wanted to kill a non-contributer, if possible, but now that they showed up I have changed my vote accordingly. - Walin hopped on the TJ vote. Stated reason bandwagon. I think the only thing the TJ bandwagon has shown me is just to be confused about Aeoryi. Other votes: - Thatoneworldhopper, Twinstorm, and Sart threw out votes on Sart, Walin, and Biplet respectively, with the seeming intent to get them to talk more. Twinstorm specifically states this in their last post, and worldhopper claims to be on the edge of changing their vote if Sart doesn't show up. Sart says that everyone needs to be accounted for. - TJ voted for Araris on the basis that they wanted to vote for their latter voters and wanted to see me and Walin play more. - Kaladin'ssenseofhumorspren, theunknownorder have both shown up in the thread and chatted a little, but chose not to cast a vote. - Kidpen and Biplet have not posted in the chat or replied to any PMs. I am still of the opinion that if we are to vote someone out Day 1, I would vote for an inactive, thus my vote change to Biplet. I am also of the opinion that spreading out votes doesn't do anything, and I do want to see more of a majority emerge. I hope that kaladinssenseofhumorspren and theunknownorder can make more of their opinions known in the form of a vote, and for the last two people who haven't posted to at least make an appearance.
Kidpen he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Good morning! My apologies for my lack of activity, this honestly slipped my mind. I appreciate not being the target of an inactive bandwagon. I agree with the logic of having a fair amount of margin and I'm uncomfortable with the push away from TJ anyways. It feels motivated, especially on the tail end of the day. Mostly voting to firm up the margin though.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 3 hours ago, TwinStorm said: Walin. No reason to bandwagon D1, when we should just spread votes around. 3 hours ago, Doc12 said: We want there to be a clear margin to see how the votes get manipulated and why. It's also helpful to build a majority to pressure people to speak, which worked in the case of TJ. Can I ask why you picked Walin? My strategy right now is simply trying to get people who haven't spoken to speak up. I'd like to know yours? To clarify my stance on this; I’m opposed to bandwagoning as such on D1. The main problems with it are that it can stifle discussion, since one player dramatically leading in votes means nobody else has to worry about dying, and that placing a vote explicitly to bandwagon frequently has the effect of causing the earlier voters to retract. In fact, this behavior is so common I used it as an elim to defuse a train on a teammate (Sart, if I recall correctly). My comments about vote manip really were intended for how the votes should look at the end of the day. As TwinStorm said, we should spread out for a bit to draw as many folks into discussion as possible, but some consolidation in the last hour or two is still worthwhile. TJ. Somewhat ironically, I’m currently most suspicious of TwinStorm now. The vote on Walin seems to me like grabbing low-hanging fruit, so to speak. I’m curious what folks think of Kidpen’s vote on TJ. On one hand, it could be an elim trying to secure an exe on a villager. On the other hand, the reasoning given suggests a player that didn’t go back and read the motivation behind the initial votes, which could be a village tell.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Kidpen said: I agree with the logic of having a fair amount of margin and I'm uncomfortable with the push away from TJ anyways. It feels motivated, especially on the tail end of the day. Mostly voting to firm up the margin though. There was no move away from me until I spoke up, it was me-motivated :P.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 3 hours ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said: I am debating whether or not to change my vote, because Sart hasn't really been active and I don't think my vote will change that. Join me on TwinStorm? Just under 2 hours until rollover btw.
Doc12 Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Fine, Aeoryi. I said I'd support you if you actually changed your vote, and you did. Let's see how this plays out. Biplet Thatoneworldhopper Biplet: (1) Sart Sart: (1) Thatoneworldhopper |TJ|: (2) Walin, Kidpen Araris: (1) TJ Walin: (1) Twinstorm Thatoneworldhopper: (2) Aeoryi, Doc Twinstorm: (1) Araris
|TJ| he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 9 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: TJ ThatOneWorldhopper I have a mild village read on TOW btw, I was evil with them the last game and it was their first time as an elim, and they were happy to skirt by with minimal thread presence. In my opinion, they've shown more presence in this game.
Sart he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Background Music: Spoiler The conversation had heated up. A flare up ganging up on TJ had sprung up rapidly. However, the only evidence against him was his lack of speaking. Now that he had spoken up, the wind went out from the sails, and many smaller grievances started popping up. However, Kidpen was trying to stoke back up the flames. It was bizarre logic. 2 hours ago, Kidpen said: Good morning! My apologies for my lack of activity, this honestly slipped my mind. I appreciate not being the target of an inactive bandwagon. I agree with the logic of having a fair amount of margin and I'm uncomfortable with the push away from TJ anyways. It feels motivated, especially on the tail end of the day. Mostly voting to firm up the margin though. Clearly, Kidpen had followed the conversation, given the reference to the inactive bandwagon and the agreement with Ararlis. However, he had still sided with piling on to a train of inactivity, that no longer made any sense, now that TJ was no longer inactive. It seemed like he was trying to kill conversation, rather than progress it. I really don't have a good explanation for this, so I'm putting my vote down. Also, he didn't bold his vote, which is a definite pet peeve. Still giving Biplet side eye for not being active, but I need to vote suspicious posts when I see them.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Mild village read on Sart. I think he's in his village meta. Kidpen Araris
Aeoryi she/her Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 15 minutes ago, |TJ| said: I have a mild village read on TOW btw, I was evil with them the last game and it was their first time as an elim, and they were happy to skirt by with minimal thread presence. In my opinion, they've shown more presence in this game. Have they? I want to argue they haven't really.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 I’ll probably hop over to Kidpen if nobody joins me on TwinStorm, but I would prefer an exe on TwinStorm of the two.
|TJ| he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 13 minutes ago, Aeoryi said: Have they? I want to argue they haven't really. 15 hours ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said: (Side note, last game I played with Sart, I voted him first cycle too. He was village:(. ) This sentence is particularly seeming from village mentality.
Kidpen he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 34 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I’ll probably hop over to Kidpen if nobody joins me on TwinStorm, but I would prefer an exe on TwinStorm of the two. I also prefer TwinStorm of the two TwinStorm If I'm reading this correctly there's two on me, two on TwinStorm, two on thatoneworldhopper. Please correct if I'm wrong, I'm phone posting and a bit distracted. I will hop on thatoneworldhopper if necessary but prefer TwinStorm.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Just now, Kidpen said: I also prefer TwinStorm of the two TwinStorm If I'm reading this correctly there's two on me, two on TwinStorm, two on thatoneworldhopper. Please correct if I'm wrong, I'm phone posting and a bit distracted. I will hop on thatoneworldhopper if necessary but prefer TwinStorm. I’m not comfortable exeing TwinStorm if the only person voting with me is Kidpen.
Biplet she/her Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Apologies for my lack of activity. I am..... severely addicted to Hades (the game). Okay, lets see. TOW votes on Sart because they don't like the music gimmick, is debating changing it. Aeyori changes to TOW but without explanation. Not suspicious imo because day 1 voting tends to be a crapshoot anyway. I would like to know the reasoning, unless I missed something. So uh... @Aeoryi reasoning? Oh also what's the vote count because I'm lazy. Oops I got ninja'd. I was gonna say I could be persuaded to TwinStorm but it looks like that one might not happen, considering rn its araris + save your skin vote from Kidpen. Been a while since I played consistently and meta analysis is uh... not gonna be my strong suit this game I think. Played the RP game last month but RP isn't the most conductive to meta.
Kidpen he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Just now, Biplet said: Apologies for my lack of activity. I am..... severely addicted to Hades (the game). I'm a HUGE Hades fan, we should chat outside the game soon. Been meaning to go back and push more weapons to 32 heat. Anyways, my opinion is you should vote TwinStorm. If it helps I was previously suspicious towards them, @Doc12 can maybe confirm that since I only expressed it to them in DMs
Biplet she/her Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Just now, Kidpen said: I'm a HUGE Hades fan, we should chat outside the game soon. Been meaning to go back and push more weapons to 32 heat. YES omg I finally bought it on the steam summer sale and I have been slamming my way through it. I need tips on getting to 32 heat because I keep getting absolutely decimated around 15. What is your twinstorm suspicion?
Kidpen he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Biplet said: YES omg I finally bought it on the steam summer sale and I have been slamming my way through it. I need tips on getting to 32 heat because I keep getting absolutely decimated around 15. What is your twinstorm suspicion? I dislike the statement that there's no reason to bandwagon on D1. They aren't wrong that spreading out more votes is more information but I agree strongly that a stronger margin is better.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Author Posted July 21, 2025 (edited) Current VC is as follows: TwinStorm (2): Araris Valerian, Kidpen, Kidpen (2): |TJ|, Sart Sart (2): ThatOneWorldhopper ThatOneWorldhopper (2): Aeoryi, Doc12 |TJ| (1): Walin Walin (1): TwinStorm Please let me know if I have missed anything! Also, @TwinStorm, @The Unknown Order, @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, @Araris Valerian, @|TJ|, @ThatOneWorldhopper, @Aeoryi, @Kidpen, @Doc12, @Biplet, @Sart, and @Walin there are ~35 minutes left in the cycle! Make sure to get any last minute votes and actions in before rollover! Edited July 21, 2025 by StrikerEZ Changed the order of votees becaues I forgot to do that
Kidpen he/him Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 (edited) I'll switch to TOW in about ten unless Bip hops on TS. 2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Current VC is as follows: TwinStorm (2): Araris Valerian, Kidpen, Kidpen (2): |TJ|, Sart Sart (2): ThatOneWorldhopper ThatOneWorldhopper (2): Aeoryi, Doc12 |TJ| (1): Walin Walin (1): TwinStorm Please let me know if I have missed anything! Also, @TwinStorm, @The Unknown Order, @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, @Araris Valerian, @|TJ|, @ThatOneWorldhopper, @Aeoryi, @Kidpen, @Doc12, @Biplet, @Sart, and @Walin there are ~35 minutes left in the cycle! Make sure to get any last minute votes and actions in before rollover! Sart has two votes? Edited July 21, 2025 by Kidpen
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