Long Game 107: The End of the World

[|TJ| he/him]

Hmmm, if we assume TUO's reply earlier was a Thug claim as well, that means everyone alive has a role other than Sart (unknown). Makes it weird that only Kidpen was the player with no role if Sart also has one. Honestly, I'm very close to the point of conf-v!Araris. Makes sense that Doc would pass of claims to him if he's scanned the accurate role of Araris. 

But honestly, joining in on the trains when you have nothing to say gets old quite fast. 

Sure Araris is a veteran vocal player, but his reasoning to vote on me stems from the fact that he assumes there to be elim participation on D1, which could be wrong, and we're discounting TwinStorm as we're assuming the vote manipulation was elim-voted which could be wrong. 

I'm gonna vote TwinStorm here, half in protest because that vote vexes me, and half because I'm no longer excluding him out of the pool because of the vote manip from D1. 

I'm sorry, but that vote is quite annoying (again, understandable the time constraints but it is what I feel nonetheless) and I hope he comes back before the end of the cycle to explain it. 

Edited July 27, 2025 by |TJ|

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

I trust Araris. I wasn't going to follow onto TJ, but his movements feel like fishing for an exe target in retrospect. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Okay, I don’t really know about TJ, but I’m currently doing some rethinking. I’m trying to avoid outing people’s roles as much as possible, but I’d like outside opinions on this one. Biplet claimed Smoker to me in response to me claiming to have Seeked her as a regular. My initial reaction was to think an elim Smoker would just claim vanilla, hence my strong village read on Bip. But I don’t really see why the village needs a Smoker when it also has a Soother and a Seeker, and the elims seem lacking in similar roles.

On a side note, I’ve obtained roleclaims from everyone, and (perhaps obviously) nobody has claimed vote manip. I would guess that at least one Thug is lying about their role, but I’m not sure if Walin/TUO/KSauce being a Soother/Rioter makes this distro any more sensible. Alternatively, at least one Thug is probably evil, since Thugs have an open action slot for the NK.

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said:

I trust Araris. I wasn't going to follow onto TJ, but his movements feel like fishing for an exe target in retrospect. 

Well, I don’t trust myself.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

9 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, I don’t trust myself.

I trust your villageness, not your correctness. On the other hand, I don't think TJ goes for me early on here.

[|TJ| he/him]

11 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said:

I trust your villageness, not your correctness. On the other hand, I don't think TJ goes for me early on here.

If you trust my claim, I have asked Striker, I can perma-protect someone. No limit on protect targets in consecutive cycles. 

We can basically force the elims to shoot my slot as I'm claiming I'm going to perma-protect Araris.

[Sart he/him]

Soundtrack:

Spoiler

 

Alright, time to come clean. I shot @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren last night. I did not want to be a vigilante, but here we are. Look, I've had a bad track record when it comes to these types of roles. I decided not to use it Night 1, because my judgement when given a gun tends to be odd, and results in a lot of village deaths. However, Day 2 was an unsuccessful bandwagon, and we needed more information. Here's my thought process. Based on everything we know so far, it seems like Day 1 was a three way Village tie. Therefore, I don't think the elims cared about the Day 1 vote. I decided to take a look at the non-voters in Day 1. That's TUO, KSauce, and Walin. Mostly just picked KSauce based on vibes. I needed someone who was staying active, but staying out of the spotlight, and I thought KSauce fit. Honestly, I still do.

When I sent in the order, it was Thursday night. I didn't see the two Thug claims in thread. I don't believe for a second that all three Thug claims are Village. I'm presuming that's what KSauce is now claiming. With a Village Seeker and a Village Coinshot, I highly suspect a high powered Elim team. That would give credence to an Elim Thug. My best guess to their composition is a Thug, some type of vote manip (given Day 1, probably a Soother), and one other, maybe a Mistborn or Smoker. Given the evidence on Day 1, I'd reason that the evil vote manipulation is claiming Thug to lay low. It naturally disincentivizes targeting them with the vote, and since our player count is getting so low, vote manipulation becomes increasingly valuable. Therefore, I've decided it's open season on Thug claims. 

Let me do a quick read list while I'm here.

The Obviously Village Tier:

• TwinStorm: The tie Day 1 highly points to them being innocent. I still don't like their vote on Doc on Day 2, but them being evil requires a very weird set of actions on Day 1.
• Araris Valerian: I'm tempted to clear him outright, based on the scan claim. I suppose there's a disastrous world where Doc scanned Aeoryi Night 1, but I don't think that's likely. That's the only reason he's below TwinStorm at this point. Plus, I just read him as village, even without the claim.

The One of You Probably Tier:

• Biplet: Given that Day 1 was a three way village tie, her song and dance panicking over breaking the tie doesn't make any sense. I still want a role claim from her, but that end of Day 1 makes me trust her.
• TJ: My gut says they're Village, but logic says otherwise. There's no way the entire elim team skipped voting Day 1. The problem is I've got good reads on both Biplet and TJ. I think it comes down to role claims. While I haven't heard Bip's yet, I don't think a Lurcher makes a lot of sense here. A trifecta of Coinshot, Seeker, and Lurcher all in the village would be extremely strong. You could potentially balance the Elim team around that, but it makes the game too swing-y. I don't want to push this, but I will if forced.

The Highly Suspect tier:

• Walin: They feel extremely self-conscious. Retracting a vote on TJ and the unprompted claim gives me checked out village vibes. However, they were active near the end of Day 1, which is a major point against them. But if they wanted to influence it that much, why not put a vote down as well?
• KSauce: Congratulations! You actually had an extra life. Still trust you about as far as I can throw you.
• TUO : They've been active enough to participate every day, but have kept an extremely low profile. Plus, they are claiming Thug. I feel like that's the perfect spot to lie low at. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

7 minutes ago, Sart said:

Biplet: Given that Day 1 was a three way village tie, her song and dance panicking over breaking the tie doesn't make any sense. I still want a role claim from her, but that end of Day 1 makes me trust her.

Like I said in my last post, Biplet claimed Smoker to me.

8 minutes ago, Sart said:

TJ: My gut says they're Village, but logic says otherwise. There's no way the entire elim team skipped voting Day 1. The problem is I've got good reads on both Biplet and TJ. I think it comes down to role claims. While I haven't heard Bip's yet, I don't think a Lurcher makes a lot of sense here. A trifecta of Coinshot, Seeker, and Lurcher all in the village would be extremely strong. You could potentially balance the Elim team around that, but it makes the game too swing-y. I don't want to push this, but I will if forced.

This is pretty much exactly where I am with TJ.

Honestly TUO is probably the last of the Thug claims that I'd vote out. I'm also not a huge fan of this thread participation but I generally have a village read on him from our PM.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

9 minutes ago, Sart said:

Araris Valerian: I'm tempted to clear him outright, based on the scan claim. I suppose there's a disastrous world where Doc scanned Aeoryi Night 1, but I don't think that's likely. That's the only reason he's below TwinStorm at this point. Plus, I just read him as village, even without the claim.

To further the cause of the village, cause idrc if I die, Araris has shared details about me and Docs convo that I don't think Doc would have shared with someone he didn't scan. The only possible worry is that Doc scanned him as village regular, but I think Doc is smart enough not to trust someone off of that.

In my own defense, does e!me claims thug here? Especially unprompted when I did. Araris can probably also confirm that I've been hinting at it in my convo with him and especially Doc.

4 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I'm also not a huge fan of this thread participation

Tbh I'm not happy with myself either but it's hard. It also doesn't mean much to you guys, but I personally doubt I'd be this checked out as an elim.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, I'm gonna go back on TJ. Just gonna trust that the version of me at the start of the day knew what he was doing.

[|TJ| he/him]

36 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

If you trust my claim, I have asked Striker, I can perma-protect someone. No limit on protect targets in consecutive cycles. 

We can basically force the elims to shoot my slot as I'm claiming I'm going to perma-protect Araris.

Are you sure you don't want to do this guys? 

We can keep at least one of Sart/Araris alive by IKYK and force elims to kill me. It's a good PtV, because it's gonna keep Araris alive longer. We can go for KSauce now and see. 

[Biplet she/her]

Are we assuming that TJ is elim because Sart claimed coinshot? Anyway my vote is based on the weird WGG statement that makes me think he's fishing for an exe target.

[|TJ| he/him]

1 minute ago, Biplet said:

Are we assuming that TJ is elim because Sart claimed coinshot? Anyway my vote is based on the weird WGG statement that makes me think he's fishing for an exe target.

I don't know what this means, it was Araris who said both were elim shots where I believed KSauce was hit either by village or WGGed.

Biplet is my biggest legacy evil read btw even disregarding the upper post. 

[Biplet she/her]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

I don't know what this means, it was Araris who said both were elim shots where I believed KSauce was hit either by village or WGGed.

Biplet is my biggest legacy evil read btw even disregarding the upper post. 

No I meant it was a weird assumption to say Ksauce was WGG and then pivot to TwinStorm. Also confused by your assumption that TUO claimed thug?

Also what does legacy evil mean sorry.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

There's just over 20 minutes left, so here's an updated VC:

|TJ|: (5): Twinstorm, The Unknown Order, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, Araris Valerian, Biplet
Twinstorm (1): |TJ|
The Unknown Order (1): Sart

[|TJ| he/him]

2 minutes ago, Biplet said:

No I meant it was a weird assumption to say Ksauce was WGG and then pivot to TwinStorm. Also confused by your assumption that TUO claimed thug?

Also what does legacy evil mean sorry.

Legacy reads is essential the reads you leave behind you die and evil is just that think you're evil :P.

The TwinStorm vote was like I said, out of annoyance. 

@TwinStorm, sorry just for the future, in case you're village - that type of vote is frustrating because there no way for me to argue against such a post or provide a defense against it or to try and change your mind. 

And TUO is a claimed Thug?

[Biplet she/her]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

And TUO is a claimed Thug?

Im sorry I think I’m stupid where did this happen

[|TJ| he/him]

1 minute ago, Biplet said:

Im sorry I think I’m stupid where did this happen

We're all assuming this is a Claim.

[TwinStorm He/Him]

3 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Legacy reads is essential the reads you leave behind you die and evil is just that think you're evil :P.

The TwinStorm vote was like I said, out of annoyance. 

@TwinStorm, sorry just for the future, in case you're village - that type of vote is frustrating because there no way for me to argue against such a post or provide a defense against it or to try and change your mind. 

And TUO is a claimed Thug?

Fair, I absolutely get that, and I will explain my reasoning in the night (regardless of your survival), but I'm just so incredibly busy. Sorry!

[Biplet she/her]

Just now, |TJ| said:

We're all assuming this is a Claim.

OHHHHH okay I didn't immediately read that as a claim mb.

Anyway, the vc is crazy lopsided rn which makes me slightly nervous, unless people are bussing I guess. What's your reasoning, besides annoyance, on TwinStorm?

[|TJ| he/him]

4 minutes ago, TwinStorm said:

Fair, I absolutely get that, and I will explain my reasoning in the night (regardless of your survival), but I'm just so incredibly busy. Sorry!

Gotchu, no worries! 

4 minutes ago, Biplet said:

What's your reasoning, besides annoyance, on TwinStorm?

Nothing really, i don't want them to die. It was a protest vote. 

My vote to kill would be on KSauce. 

KSauce = Biplet

Walin = TUO

TwinStorm

Araris

Sart

Final reads

Edited July 27, 2025 by |TJ|

[StrikerEZ he/him]

And that's the turn! No more posting, PMing, or submitting actions until the next turn. Please and thank you.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Yomen was invited to listen in on today's arguments about the latest accusations. Part of him was wondering if this was a bad way to find the spiked. Surely it wasn't.

Right?

Today, the picked a man named TJ. He frantically tried to defend his name, but most of the crowd was not hearing it. Yomen looked away as his guards prepared to execute the man. Yomen hoped they had finally-

Yomen jerked his head as he heard shouts of surprise. Metal was flying around the cavern, TJ dancing among the flashing pieces as he fought off the guards. TJ fought well, but ultimately fell to the guards.

Later that night, it was determined TJ had no spikes in him, even if he was a wretched skaa allomancer. There were zero steps closer to finding the spiked. And the earthquakes were getting worse. Would they all die here?

~~~~~~~

|TJ| has been executed! They were a Village Lurcher!

|TJ|: (5): Twinstorm, The Unknown Order, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, Araris Valerian, Biplet
The Unknown Order (1): Sart
KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren (1): |TJ|

PMs are still open! As a reminder, group PMs are allowed, and all PMs must also include @little wilson and myself. 

Player List: 

Spoiler

1. @TwinStorm
2. @The Unknown Order
3. @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren - Chanarash, IT'S TIME FOR A CRUSADE
4. @Araris Valerian - Aralis, a non-believer of Spiked
5. |TJ| Village Lurcher
6. ThatOneWorldhopper Village Oracle
7. Aeoryi Village Soother
8. Kidpen Villager
9. Doc12 Village Seeker
10. @Biplet
11. @Sart - DJ Sart, not sure what a DJ is, but he’s got background music following him around at all times
12. @Walin - Walin, some guy whose name sounds so familiar….

This turn will end at 4 pm CDT, on Monday, July 28th.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, I think we're hosed unless there are only 2 elims, or Sart shoots an elim tonight. This is the part of the game where it's a bit unfortunate all the Thugs have claimed and that we exed our Lurcher. If we are in a 2-elim world then Sart is one of them or I'm very glad to have not been an elim this game.

[TwinStorm He/Him]

Is there a world where Sart is a Mistborn? I mean, not killing N1 is a good cover for just drawing a different power.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

4 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

Is there a world where Sart is a Mistborn? I mean, not killing N1 is a good cover for just drawing a different power.

Yeah, there is. I don't think he would claim something like that though, not when it would become obvious after tonight.

Edit: Figured I’d do a role dump here since I might not live the night. Walin, TUO, and KSauce have claimed Thug. Sart has claimed Coinshot. Biplet has claimed Smoker. TwinStorm has claimed Tineye. I’m an Augur (which seems a bit useless now that TJ is dead). Adding the dead roles of Seeker, Soother, Lurcher, Oracle, and Vanilla gives the current distro. TwinStorm, Biplet, and KSauce are almost certainly being honest. Sart might be a Mistborn, and the same with TUO and Walin. I guess KSauce could be one that pulled an extra life (between Oracle, Thug, and Lurcher, it’s not that unlikely). @StrikerEZ, if an Oracle survives an attack, is it announced like a Thug/Lurcher survival?

Edited July 28, 2025 by Araris Valerian