Long Game 104: The Flame of Tar Valon

[BridgeBoi]

8 minutes ago, Terrisman said:

Question: @BridgeBoi do you think I’m an elim?

Honestly I don’t know. Ur not my number one suspect. But like I’ve repeated I’m bad at reading people.

there is one sus incident. After the Hopper kill, I said there was likely an elim on the hopper train, u immediately said there wasn’t a elim on those trains. But twin was on the tow train. It’s incidents like these that mean I can’t trust you.

ultimately, the only person I can fully trust is myself. Everyone else, no matter how towny they seemed, is de facto suspicious. 

 

[|TJ| he/him]

TIMEEEE SHHHHHH :P.

[|TJ| he/him]

Day 5 - She Comes!

Taimon never wanted to be the Amyrlin Seat. They never wanted to be a Sitter in the first place, but they took up the position at the insistence of their Sisters. They have just advanced from Accepted to full Aes Sedai when she was requested to step. They knew the others wanted a figurehead, someone they could control. They'd let the other believe so, until they were elected. Then, once in power, the others could do nothing to stop them. They would not sit silently while others tried to move them like puppets. They'd make White Tower a better place, in their own vision.

***

Sart has been killed! They were from the Hall of the Tower!
BridgeBoi has been elected as the Amyrlin Seat!

Vote Count:

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BridgeBoi (2): Ashbringer, Illwei
Terrisman (1): Sart

Day 5 has now begun and will end on 04th April, 2025 at 23:00 hrs BST. @Steeldancer will get an inactivity warning! 

Players:

Spoiler

1. The Wandering Wizard - Evelyn Rosemary Hall of the Tower
2. KelsierApologist - Coprolite Black Ajah
3. TwinStorm - Melian Black Ajah
4. @Aeternum
5. @Ashbringer
6. @Steeldancer - John Steel
7. Kasimir - Kamil Lovric Hall of the Tower
8. The Unknown Flame - Verde Black Ajah
9. ThatOneWorldHopper - Alkarii Tay'TerTüne Hall of the Tower
10. DrakeMarshall - Black Ajah
11. Mark IV Hall of the Tower
12. @BridgeBoi - Taimon
13. @Terrisman - Terri
14. Teldris Anuar - Tesan Alruddin Hall of the Tower
15. Sart - Sartala Hall of the Tower
16. @STINK - Rasmuht
17. @Illwei
18. A Jo in the Bush - Emmett Hall of the Tower

Edited April 2, 2025 by |TJ|

[Terrisman]

All hail BridgeBoi! The Amyrlin Seat!!

[BridgeBoi]

@|TJ|
do my votes count double or is that just after my election is complete?

[|TJ| he/him]

Just now, BridgeBoi said:

@|TJ|
do my votes count double or is that just after my election is complete?

Amyrlin Seat's vote counts as double only after the election is complete and the Amylin is confirmed to be village.

[BridgeBoi]

I’m voting for Ashbringer. I have a theory that the elim team is trying to keep me alive and make me the seat so they can try to depose me. This would explain the twinstorm votes for me for seat. Ashbringer also had a relatively unexplained vote for me in N3. Ashbringer voting me for seat and leaving that open to deposition only confirmed my theory. Again just a theory but it would explain some weird things.
 

Edited April 3, 2025 by BridgeBoi

[Ashbringer he/him]

Why am I alive?

Why?

Why?

2 minutes ago, BridgeBoi said:

I’m voting for Ashbringer.

Oh, that's why.

[Terrisman]

@|TJ| how long until BridgeBoi is confirmed?

[Illwei]

5 hours ago, BridgeBoi said:

I’m voting for Ashbringer. I have a theory that the elim team is trying to keep me alive and make me the seat so they can try to depose me. This would explain the twin votes for me for seat. Ashbringer also had a relatively unexplained vote for me in N3. Ashbringer voting me for seat and leaving that open to deposition only confirmed my theory. Again just a theory but it would explain some weird things.
 

Why ash and not me? 

[|TJ| he/him]

6 hours ago, Terrisman said:

@|TJ| how long until BridgeBoi is confirmed?

2 cycles, sorry forgot to mention. They'll be confirmed at the end of N6. 

[Ashbringer he/him]

STINK

[STINK he/him]

Ashbringer

I can vote with no elaboration too buster

[BridgeBoi]

8 hours ago, Illwei said:

Why ash and not me? 

Bc I’m not really sure on u and im reasonably confident in the ash exe.

[Terrisman]

Aeternum 

 

 

5 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

STINK

 

3 hours ago, STINK said:

Ashbringer

I can vote with no elaboration too buster

It’s probably a good idea for you two to give us actual reasons if you have so that we can make informed decisions 

[Ashbringer he/him]

I elaborated last turn.

I can do so again, but not for a while today, unfortunately.

[STINK he/him]

2 hours ago, Terrisman said:

It’s probably a good idea for you two to give us actual reasons

Yeah sure man no problem, basically he voted for me and I got bored of voting for Aet.

4 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

I elaborated last turn.

Fun fact, I cannot find this, but I can find you saying offhandedly that you'd like to exe me and then just kinda leaving it there so I mean yeah I guess that counts.

Furthermore, I think this is a possible world (see now I sound fancy with logical terms don't I) where Ash as last elim has to keep living (duh) and wants to get a push going to kill me since for some reason everyone thinks I haven't done enough in thread - which by the by hello read my posts people I've been here and there if I was elim lemme tell ya D2 wouldn't have ended with an elim dead love a cheeky rollover panic glad I don't have to worry about that anymore - so a pretty easy one to get going and is worried to start on anyone else since everyone else is posting read-lists happy as larry about most people so the relationship-web has too many people going but I like that person. 

I did look for elaboration in the day and night threads and yeah couldn't find it but maybe that's on me. 

Still a BridgeBoi believer ride or die but yeah Steeldancer inactivity warning ergo didn't make a kill (flawless logic right?) so its either Ash or someone from Illwei/Aet but I'm not making that a formal set just yet 

 

[Terrisman]

In my view, Aeternum, Ashbringer and BridgeBoi are the most suspicious. In that order. I don’t think STINK is an elim. From what I can tell, he likes staying quiet but he’s been pretty active in thread, even encouraging more people to post. That doesn’t seem like something e!STINK would do

[Ashbringer he/him]

Alright, I can elaborate some more, then.

Spoiler

D1:

Kasimir (2): The Wandering Wizard, TwinStorm
Mark IV (1): Illwei
Illwei (1): Sart
Aeternum (1): Kasimir
TwinStorm (1): Aeternum
Drake Marshall (1): A Jo in the Bush

Kasimir (4): The Wandering Wizard, TwinStorm, BridgeBoi, KelsierApologist
Illwei (2): Sart, Terrisman
Mark IV (1): Illwei
Aeternum (1): Kasimir
TwinStorm (1): Aeternum
DrakeMarshall (1): A Jo in the Bush
STINK (1): Teldris Anuar

Kasimir (3): TwinStorm, BridgeBoi, KelsierApologist
Illwei (2): Sart, Terrisman
KelsierApologist (2): The Wandering Wizard, A Jo in the Bush
Mark IV (1): Illwei
Aeternum (1): Kasimir
TwinStorm (1): Aeternum
STINK (1): Teldris Anuar

KelsierApologist (3): The Wandering Wizard, Terrisman, Illwei,
Kasimir (3): TwinStorm, BridgeBoi, TUF
Illwei (2): Sart, Kasimir
DrakeMarshall (3): Ashbringer, A Jo in the Bush, Steeldancer
TwinStorm (2): Aeternum, Mark IV
Ashbringer (1): ThatOneWorldhopper
STINK (1): Teldris Anuar

KelsierApologist (5): The Wandering Wizard, Terrisman, Illwei, Steeldancer, Ashbringer
Kasimir (3): TwinStorm, BridgeBoi, TUF
Illwei (2): Sart, Kasimir
TwinStorm (2): Aeternum, Mark IV
Ashbringer (1): ThatOneWorldhopper
STINK (1): Teldris Anuar
DrakeMarshall (1): A Jo in the Bush

 

D2:

TUF (2): BridgeBoi, The Wandering Wizard
Mark IV (2): Sart, Kasimir
TwinStorm (2): Steeldancer, ThatOneWorldhopper
ThatOneWorldhopper (2): Terrisman, TwinStorm
Aeternum (2): Ashbringer, TUF
STINK (1): Aeternum

ThatOneWorldhopper (3): Terrisman, TwinStorm, Illwei
TUF (2): BridgeBoi, The Wandering Wizard
Mark IV (2): Sart, Kasimir
TwinStorm (2): Steeldancer, ThatOneWorldhopper
Aeternum (2): Ashbringer, TUF
STINK (1): Aeternum

TUF (4): BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Kasimir, The Wandering Wizard
TwinStorm (3): Steeldancer, ThatOneWorldhopper, Aeternum
ThatOneWorldhopper (2): TwinStorm, Illwei
Aeternum (2): Ashbringer, TUF
Mark IV (1): Sart
The Wandering Wizard (1): STINK

TUF (5): BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Kasimir, The Wandering Wizard, Ashbringer
TwinStorm (3): Steeldancer, ThatOneWorldhopper, Aeternum
ThatOneWorldhopper (2): TwinStorm, Illwei
Aeternum (1): TUF
Mark IV (1): Sart
The Wandering Wizard (1): STINK

TUF (6): BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Kasimir, The Wandering Wizard, Ashbringer, TwinStorm
TwinStorm (5): Steeldancer, ThatOneWorldhopper, Aeternum, Illwei, TUF
ThatOneWorldhopper (1): Sart
The Wandering Wizard (1): STINK

 

D3:

ThatOneWorldhopper (3): The Wandering Wizard, Steeldancer, TwinStorm
TwinStorm (1): BridgeBoi

ThatOneWorldhopper (3): Steeldancer, TwinStorm, Aeternum
Illwei (2): Ashbringer, ThatOneWorldhopper
TwinStorm (1): BridgeBoi
Aeternum (1): Sart
Steeldancer (1): Terrisman
Ashbringer (1): The Wandering Wizard

 

D4:

TwinStorm (4): Ashbringer, BridgeBoi, Sart, Illwei
Aeternum (2): Terrisman, STINK
Steeldancer (1): TwinStorm

 

We've exed an Elim every turn except for D3. Even then, we've also had one Elim die to inactivity among the few Villagers around. There should be only one elim left - a 6 member Elim team would be 1/3rd of the players in a game setup that still largely favors the Elims, and if that's the setup then wow. Thus, we're looking for one Elim among Aeternum, Ashbringer, Steeldancer, BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Illwei, and STINK.

We can't exe BridgeBoi anyway, so they're out. Terris is IMO also out - those two being Elim would have probably had some indication D4, and I'm not sure either would go for continued low-info kills.

Steel I've gut trusted for a while. They were the main solid vote that got Polly exed on D1, and they were on TwinStorm D2. They're also, currently, inactive - which isn't ideal, but it's something that can get played into to some degree (inactive Elims tend not to put in NKs, although it's possible, and if Steel flips from inactivity that's one more flip we get before we need to make a judgement on BridgeBoi). 

I think I've also come around to Aeternum, for now. Because Aet was solidly on TwinStorm for most of the game, and the fact Illwei - probably the best player at reading Aet here - trusts Aet quite explicitly.

That leaves Illwei and STINK. Of those, Illwei/Gaea pushed Polly, TwinStorm, and TwinStorm again. STINK hasn't voted on any of the main trains. STINK also got voted on Teldris who got N1ed, and has been largely ignored for the past few cycles, and been highly low-info as well - @Terrisman if you can find where you see STINK being active and encouraging other people to be active, that'd be interesting to see, because it's not something I've seen around in STINKs posts.

49 minutes ago, STINK said:

which by the by hello read my posts people I've been here and there if I was elim lemme tell ya D2 wouldn't have ended with an elim dead love a cheeky rollover panic glad I don't have to worry about that anymore

I'm also curious how E!STINK would have saved both TUF and TwinStorm when, in that world, only one other voting player (Sart) wasn't voting on one of those two trains. But that's perhaps not the most relevant of the hypotheticals.

 

I am busy, so that's it for a while. Ultimately exeing me isn't too bad, as I was mostly expecting to die in the Night anyway + Sart is nice to have flipped, but I'll give more thoughts on that later.

[Terrisman]

54 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

That leaves Illwei and STINK. Of those, Illwei/Gaea pushed Polly, TwinStorm, and TwinStorm again. STINK hasn't voted on any of the main trains. STINK also got voted on Teldris who got N1ed, and has been largely ignored for the past few cycles, and been highly low-info as well - @Terrisman if you can find where you see STINK being active and encouraging other people to be active, that'd be interesting to see, because it's not something I've seen around in STINKs posts

Towards the end

 

[|TJ| he/him]

~24 hours left in the cycle! Uhhh, finish all the discussion during this time and not leave it to the last minute like the last cycle :P. 

[BridgeBoi]

1 hour ago, |TJ| said:

~24 hours left in the cycle! Uhhh, finish all the discussion during this time and not leave it to the last minute like the last cycle :P. 

No

Jk but seriously can other people post opinions and votes? 

I’m pretty sure on my vote but we need discussion. 

[Terrisman]

Updated vote count

Ashbringer: (2) BridgeBoi, Stink

Stink: (1) Ashbringer 

Aeternum:(1) Terrisman 

Steel seems to be gone so we just don’t have votes from Aet and Illwei

[Aeternum]

Oh this is awkward, I assumed I died d4 and took a nice break from checking the site because I get upset about getting misexe'd and didn't really want to think about that. My bad for disappearing.

Probably just vote Terrisman for lack of re-eval after a red flip, it's just wolfy and Terrisman tried to move off of TwinStorm d4 in a way that looks terrible given TwinStorm was an elim. I'll look through VCs again later maybe.

Do I need to worry about the Seat thing soon or nah.

Anyways my reads have been fairly on point by my standards this game so I'm pretty happy about that. Cya.

[Illwei]

Bridgeboi you keep saying "we need activity" but yet you haven't really said much. Is there nothing you find worth responding to here?