Long Game 104: The Flame of Tar Valon

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

6 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I guess they probably are an Ajah Of Unusual Size...

Ah of course! It must be those slimy reds who hate men  

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

48 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

You know those Black Ajah? I don't believe they exist  

Book accurate Aes Sedai:

[Kasimir he/him]

Tamra Ospenya, the Amrylin Seat was dead.

A Warder, killed by the One Power. Not something you could easily hide. Whispers reverberated through the White Tower, at least among the tower guard and the Warders, even though their Aes Sedai shot them disapproving stares in public. No one, still, dared utter the name. And yet the writing was on the wall.

Kamil was certain his tension was leaking across their bond. Occasionally, Wylla gave him quick glances out of the corner of her eye—too much an Aes Sedai to reveal in the turn of her expression if she was anxious, or concerned, or if she simply was...on edge.

Everyone understood the enormity of it, even if Tamra Ospenya had been announced to have passed peacefully in her sleep. Rumours of knives in the dark, an Amrylin Seat murdered. The White Tower was ablaze and the Ajahs were restless.

Wylla tugged at her shawl, smoothing out the white fabric with her fingers. A nervous gesture many Aes Sedai made. Not for the first time, Kamil kept a little behind, to her right, and made sure his scabbard hung free of the fancloth cloak. The last thing he wanted was to get caught on the draw.

The meeting room of the White Ajah loomed before them, the doors already opened. 

Kamil made to proceed before Wylla, and hissed with annoyance as she held out her arm, blocking him.

"Wylla," he said, in protest.

"This is the heart of the Ajah, Gaidin," Wylla said. At least two other Warders lounged outside the room, looking just as displeased as Kamil felt. No one wanted to leave their Aes Sedai unprotected, even if a Warder could surely only do so little against a rogue wielder of the One Power.

And there were other threats the Shadow could bring to bear. Grey Men, Faceless...

Kamil's jaw firmed. No. No, he would not brook this—

Wylla pushed him back again. "Don't make me," she said. He hated how Light-blinded stubborn she could be! "It will be fine, Kamil." Her tone softening, now. "They will not harm me, not before so many others."

He ground his teeth together. "If there is anything at all amiss—"

"—I will call, and you will break down the door even if it is held against you by the One Power,"  she said, her voice dry. "Yes, I know, Gaidin. Now will you stop worrying?"

"Never," Kamil said. Not with fears of the Black Ajah and the Amrylin Seat's death looming in his head. Not with her Warder, slain, as the whispers had it, by the One Power. But he relented, and peeled off to join the other Warders grouchily lurking outside the meeting room. He would not feel at ease until the meeting was over. 

Someone had to worry about Wylla's safety, after all, especially if she wasn't going to.

[|TJ| he/him]

One hour to go! 

[Mark IV he/him]

4 hours ago, Kasimir said:

with Aman as the actual archtype here. [...] I'm thinking of uber Village lead deepwolf niche

Why does this describe Aman so well XD

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Welp, finally caught up. Spent way too long on this. 

My two cents on the Ajah claiming thing, though I guess it might be a little late for alignment phishing - 
I was initially against Ajah claiming because it seemed too close to role claiming in other games and that felt like too much public information. But Kas' points about Ajah over targeting make sense to me. I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea of having that much info public, but

1. I'm more uncomfortable with the Black Ajah wiping out other members in their Ajah and then spinning their own stories/having complete control over certain Ajahs. Kas mentions that he's not too concerned with Ajah powers being used correctly, and while I agree with that, I'm more concerned about Ajah powers being misused by the BA. (Maybe the one use Ajahs should just finish off with their power usage /jk) 
2. Thinking of elim distributions (I know someone's gone over this, but still): assuming 4 elims -
   1. They could be spaced out evenly, so 1 elim per Ajah. Which means the elim know 4/6 ajah member make ups. Which means they only need to figure out 2 ajahs/6 players ajahs. Add to that the fact that Sitters will have their colours revealed, and you're left with only 4 players with unknown ajahs.
   2. Maybe they're placed as 2,1,1. Which still gives them ajah membership for 3 ajahs and 3 other sitters. That's only 6/18 players' missing information after D1 sitter flips. That's still a lot of information.
   3. Finally, if it's something like 2,2 - then ajah power manip might be a real problem if the two affected Ajah's have useful powers (for the elims). That's an if, but still a scenario I don't like. 

I'm forgetting a couple points, I think, but eh. 
Personally, I think a delayed Ajah claim might be a good option. Kas (again!) already mentioned this, so I won't go over it again, but Ajah overtargetting does seem like a real issue to me and catching elims red handed seems more useful to me than preventing overtargetting completely. Maybe I'm not thinking this through, but that's what it looks like to me rn. 

I doubt we'd be able to pull it off though. So this is all theoretical anyway.

Ajah non-sitter pair reveals make sense to me, really. The sitter can't be pressured easily due to immunity, so if both non sitters die in an Ajah with an E!Sitter, then we'd be none the wiser, and we'd have a loose E!Sitter with free access to the ajah power. At least pair claiming ensures we know when both non sitters are dead in an Ajah. (On a side note, I'm kinda imagining non-sitters as watchdogs for sitters in their ajah, hence my reasoning above)

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That aside, I currently have a slight V!Kas read right now. Not knowing about the N0 kill and asking about it in thread seems village-y (but could also be a very conceited elim move, who knows )

I initially had a V!lean on Joe, but now I'm not sure why, so back to neutral.

Joe, Steel, TUN, Gaea and Drake (might've missed someone?) argued against ajah claiming, though Drake admitted he wasn't too vested in the concept either way. Idk why, but this gives me a gut E!read on Drake. 

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Phew, beat roll over 

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Alkarii dropped down from his perch, relieved, yet still cautious.  He looked. 

The wolf-man was gone. Still, Alkarii was cautious, and made sure that all of the other alcoves were before dashing to the end of the hallway and peering around the corner. Somebody was walking away, but it could have been anybody. 

Jane was close. Alkarii could feel her guilty innocence emanating. He slipped up the brick wall onto a gargoyle, and waited.

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Again, new guy, so if I'm breaking etiquette by asking, sorry, but why do people write V!llian? What's with the exclamation mark?

[xxGaea They/Them, Fae/Faer]

8 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Again, new guy, so if I'm breaking etiquette by asking, sorry, but why do people write V!llian? What's with the exclamation mark?

V ! lean and E ! lean is just a shorthand for saying if you currently think another player is a Villager or Eliminator. :3

The V/E followed by an ! is just to signify which direction you think someone currently is, if that makes sense

Edited March 21, 2025 by xxGaea
further clarification

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

4 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Again, new guy, so if I'm breaking etiquette by asking, sorry, but why do people write V!llian? What's with the exclamation mark?

X!Name is a convention originally from Fanfiction I think, where it indicates a different version of a character. College!Vin would be talking about Vin in a Alternate Universe where she is a College student. In SE, people have started to talk about V!Wilson and E!Wilson as shorthand for "If Wilson was a Villager" or "If Wilson was an Eliminator." What you are reading as V!llain, is actually the short-hand phrase of "Village-Leaning". So if someone says they V!Lean Wilson or E!Lean Wilson, they think that Wilson is more likely to be one or the other.

[|TJ| he/him]

The cycle is over, please stop talking here and in the docs till I get the new cycle up!

[|TJ| he/him]

 

Day 1 - The Hall Convenes

Sierin had just finished talking with her Red Sisters. It was unfortunate about Tamra, and as sad as it may have been, she knew there was an opportunity here. Indeed, Tamra was found in her bed, looked to have 'died in her sleep', but the murmurs around the hall said something different. And despite all that, Sierin saw this as an opportunity as she looked around the hall towards the other 6 Sitters she had to beat. She had to get politicking.

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Nominees: 

Quote

A Jo in the Bush - Sitter of the Yellow Ajah
The Unknown Flame - Sitter of the Brown Ajah
Sart - Sitter of the Green Ajah
Terrisman - Sitter of the Grey Ajah
BridgeBoi - Sitter of the Blue Ajah
Steeldancer - Sitter of the White Ajah

Day 1 has begun and will end on 23rd March 2025 on 23:00 hrs. Please re-read your Ajah powers and make a note of when it can be used, which is stated in parenthesis. Happy Black Ajah hunting! 

Players:

Spoiler

1. @The Wandering Wizard - Evelyn Rosemary
2. @KelsierApologist - Coprolite
3. @TwinStorm - Melian
4. @Experience
5. @Ashbringer
6. @Steeldancer - John Steel
7. @Kasimir - Kamil Lovric
8. @The Unknown Flame - Verde
9. @ThatOneWorldhopper - Alkarii Tay'TerTüne
10. @DrakeMarshall
11. @Mark IV
12. @BridgeBoi - Taimon
13. @Terrisman - Terri
14. @Teldris Anuar - Tesan Alruddin
15. @Sart - Sartala
16. @STINK - Rasmuht
17. @xxGaea - Altea O’Canavan, aka Nameless Whisper
18. @A Jo in the Bush - Emmett

Edited March 23, 2025 by |TJ|

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

X!Name is a convention originally from Fanfiction I think, where it indicates a different version of a character. College!Vin would be talking about Vin in a Alternate Universe where she is a College student. In SE, people have started to talk about V!Wilson and E!Wilson as shorthand for "If Wilson was a Villager" or "If Wilson was an Eliminator." What you are reading as V!llain, is actually the short-hand phrase of "Village-Leaning". So if someone says they V!Lean Wilson or E!Lean Wilson, they think that Wilson is more likely to be one or the other.

Actually, thanks Jo, I've been wondering where that came from for a long time.

Also, hello fellow sitters.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

On 3/19/2025 at 5:51 PM, A Jo in the Bush said:

This will be a fun game I hope. Did anyone else immediately change their Doc color to be the color of their Ajah? I did and then it was changed back to White, lol.

7 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

A Jo in the Bush - Sitter of the Yellow Ajah

Can you see now why it was changed so quickly? =P

So, fellow Sitters, I would love to know how you won your nominations. Was it through random chance? Or did you successfully get two people to Nominate you? If it was Random, was it between all three of you, or between only two of you?

Both of my fellow Yellow's voted for me, and I appreciate their support, and am somewhat terrified of their expectations of me. They seem to think I am far better at this game than I am.

Edited March 22, 2025 by A Jo in the Bush
used 'then' instead of 'than'

[Steeldancer he/him]

"Me????" John asked in complete confusion. 

The Aes Sedai of the white Ajah nodded. "Yes, you. We want you to be the sitter of the white Ajah."

"...but why????"

Another woman spoke up. "You're so composed and on top of things, we think you'll make the perfect leader in this time of confusion."

"BUT IM THE ONE WHO'S CONFUSED", thought John. 

How did things come to this? How did he, who just a year ago was just a normal baker working with his twin sister, end up pretending to be a woman so well that they put him in charge?????? 

 

Edit, OOC: only one of my mates voted for me, the other didn't vote at all. And now I can have way too much fun running my poor character through the ringer as he desperately tries to lead in such a way as to not give away the fact that he's a dude 

Edited March 22, 2025 by Steeldancer

[BridgeBoi]

Taimon was nervous. A full meeting of the Blue Ajah, gathered to choose a leader. She looked around the room at the other Aes Sedia. So talented and qualified. At that moment, Taimon made her decision. 
She stood up.

” Sisters, before we begin the proceedings, I would like to make a statement. I am too inexperienced to take this job. Therefore, I would like to formally remove myself from contention for the position of sitter. I will support anyone who who the Ajah chooses.”

She sat down, oblivious to the world around her. It was a hard decision to make. She wanted to be the leader wanted to be successful, but it was about what was best for the tower, not her. 

Another sister stood up. “I formally move for sister Taimon to be appointed sitter of the blue Ajah.”

Taimon’s mouth dropped. She stuttered. “But i just said I didn’t want to the sitter…”

The other woman smiled. “Which is exactly why you should be it. May the Light illumine you, Sitter Taimon.”

[xxGaea They/Them, Fae/Faer]

31 minutes ago, Steeldancer said:

And now I can have way too much fun running my poor character through the ringer as he desperately tries to lead in such a way as to not give away the fact that he's a dude 

I am giggling at poor John--having to even more commit to the bit now, lol.

33 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Both of my fellow Yellow's voted for me, and I appreciate their support, and am somewhat terrified of their expectations of me. They seem to think I am far better at this game than I am.

>.> Considering you have been referred to and referred to yourself as 'Rabble Rouser', you have kinda given yourself a reputation for being good at this game.

 

Of the Sitters, @Sart didn't post at all N0 and @BridgeBoi only posted twice--so I would be very interested to hear in how they got elected to the role?

[Steeldancer he/him]

Ok I'm bad at reading, apparently it ended up being a 50/50 when I wasn't on. Which is interesting, and also means John truly was just horrifically unlucky LMAO. 

Right now, based on their actions I'm putting both my teammates on "kinda trust for now". Imo if there is a black ajah in my doc at this point it's not my real priority, the real priority is vetting the existing sitters. 

So yeah, how did sart get elected without posting at all

Edit: spelling. 

Edited March 22, 2025 by Steeldancer

[Sart he/him]

Sartala strode confidently into the hall. As the Sitter of the Green, it was important to make a good first impression. She stretched her muscles, making sure everything was in working order. They were at war, and one had to be decisive. The Black Ajah would stop at nothing to defeat them. While she could not trust the other Sitters, that was not where her focus needed to be. They were, like her, immune to this proceeding. Instead, they had to focus on their attendants. To ease discussion, she would separate them into two lists.

Attendants:

Spoiler

1. Evelyn Rosemary (The Wandering Wizard)
2. Coprolite (KelsierApologist)
3. Melian (TwinStorm)
4. Experience
5. Ashbringer
6. Kamil Lovric (Kasimir)
7. Alkarii Tay'TerTüne (ThatOneWorldhopper)
8. DrakeMarshall
9. Mark IV
10. Tesan Alruddin (Teldris Anuar)
11. Rasmuht (STINK)
12. Altea O’Canavan, aka Nameless Whisper (xxGaea)

Sitters:

Spoiler

1. Emmett (A Jo in the Bush) - Sitter of the Yellow Ajah
2. Verde (The Unknown Flame) - Sitter of the Brown Ajah
3. Sartala (Sart) - Sitter of the Green Ajah
4. Terri (Terrisman) - Sitter of the Grey Ajah
5. Taimon (BridgeBoi) - Sitter of the Blue Ajah
6. John Steel (Steeldancer) - Sitter of the White Ajah

Now that the battlefield was clear, it was time to form a strategy. She considered attacking someone who hadn't been paying attention. That was perhaps the expected move, but it was hypocritical. She had spent too much time hashing out plans within her own Ajah. For her paranoid ramblings, she had been named Sitter. Perhaps it spoke more to her teammates taciturn nature than anything else. It was an honor, but now she needed to live up to that expectation. Staying quiet in public wouldn't work any more. Hypocritical or not, it was time everyone spoke publicly. To that end, Experience @Experience had also not contributed yet. It was time to test the defenses.

 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

@|TJ| Some questions for you.

1. What are the actual definitions of Majority vote vs Plurality Vote?
2.        Does Majority mean “More than half of all living players”?
3.        Does Plurality mean “More than any other candidate”?
4. When will we learn how many Deposition Votes the Amyrlin Seat must survive for?
5. Can the Brown Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left?
6. Can the Green Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left? What about 3?
7. Are ties for Elevation randomly decided?
8. If a player is Executed or Night Killed, is the color of their Ajah revealed?
9. For the Inactivity Filter, is it looking at Election Votes, Execution Votes, or both?

AT everyone else, if we assume very conservative numbers, then we get 7 Executions this game to find all of the Black Ajah. That’s assuming that no one dies to the inactivity filter. If we assume 4 to 6 Elims, then I think it is unlikely that we will get to execute all of them. This game will probably be decided by an Elevation/Deposition vote.

Spoiler

No Powers used W/3 Depositions, vs. Green Ajah Stilling W/2 Depositions

	Day	Night		Day	Night
Cycle 1	17 players left	5 Sitters Left		17 players left	4 Sitters Left
Cycle 2	15 players left	4 Sitters Left		15 players left	3 Sitters Left
Cycle 3	13 players left	3 Sitters Left		13 players left	2 Sitters Left
Cycle 4	11 players left	2 Sitters Left		11 players left	Deposition 1
Cycle 5	9 players left	Deposition 1		9 players left	Deposition 2
Cycle 6	7 players left	Deposition 2		7 players left
Cycle 7	5 players left	Deposotion 3		5 players left

To give us time to find the Black Ajah, I think we need to avoid elevating anyone, because we don't have a surefire way to truly clear anyone.  Now, onto finding a Black Ajah day 1! There are only 12 people we can Execute today. Who should I vote for? Let's try to have lots of votes today, remember, there is an Inactivity Filter.

    The Wandering Wizard - Evelyn Rosemary

He agreed to add the Bee Movie to his doc for TJ's sake. For that alone, I'm not voting on him just yet. Nothing else he's said was alignment indicative, just having fun on Night zero. Nothing wrong with that, he made the thread a welcoming place. I would hope to hear more from him this cycle.

KelsierApologist - Coprolite

She made a very interesting game post last cycle, when she discussed why she wasn't going to run for Sitter. While her reasoning could be used to try to manipulate her sitter, it still feels very village, and I'm not inclined to think of her as an Elim right now. Soft Village Lean.

TwinStorm - Melian

Made some Roleplay, and answered a question in the thread. Non-Alignment indicative, but he is at least paying attention to the game, which is good. He also knows BridgeBoi in real life, which is good to know. TwinStorm, I would love to know your thoughts on BridgeBoi. Are you surprised that they became the Blue Sitter?

Experience

@Experience you never did post in Night 0. Looks like you haven't posted anywhere in Tar Valon since the beginning of the Month. Are you active in your doc? We'd love to hear more from you. I won't even trick you into drawing an Ace this time. No Alignment Indications, obviously.

Ashbringer

You've made a few interesting posts Ashbringer. You brought up the idea of the non-sitters revealing who they are doc mates with. You've done a lot of interesting analysis of the idea of revealing Ajah, and I'm generally leaning Village on you so far. Nothing you've said seems like it could favor an Elim, which would be more suspicious if you were a Sitter.

Kasimir - Kamil Lovric

. . . I don't want to go reread all 29 of your posts to analyze you Kasimir. That's too many, and I'm only halfway through the non-sitters.

ThatOneWorldhopper - Alkarii Tay'TerTüne

Hi TOW! I've been having fun Role-Playing with you. How are you finding the game so far? I don't have any reads on you yet, so I'd appreciate if you could answer the following question: Do you think the Black Ajah are more likely to try to delay any Sitter getting Elevated to Amrylin Seat, or do you think they're more likely to push for one of their Sitters to get Elevated very early on?

DrakeMarshall

Drake, you're actually someone I expected to become a Sitter. Honestly not sure why I thought that, possibly just because you are a name I remember/recognize? You've had interesting thoughts about mass claiming, and are in favor of it. You've stated you have a very slight elim read on xxGaea, on the basis of them not having a strong opinion directly after Kas speculated that Elims would have a strong opinion one way or the other. You never stated whether or not their defense was enough to sway you to neutral or not. Are you still suspicious of xxGaea?

I'm voting on Drake for now, for two reasons. They've posted a lot of analysis, but none of it has given me a village lean, which is not the same as being suspicious, but right now it's the best I've got. The second reason is that they were slightly suspicious of xxGaea, who can do no wrong. =P (for context, xxGaea and I are married IRL)

Mark IV

Mark made a wonderfully long post about his thoughts on the game. I get a Village Lean from it and him, but am disappointed that he's not trusting his gut when it tells him I'm a Villager. Do you still think the non-sitter pairs should reveal?

Teldris Anuar - Tesan Alruddin

Hello Teldris! I feel like I should have said welcome to the forum earlier, but I only just now realized you're brand new. I'm guessing from your post that you didn't run for Sitter in your Ajaw, is that correct?

STINK - Rasmuht

Good morning Stink. How did you sleep?

xxGaea - Altea O’Canavan, aka Nameless Whisper

Hello xxGaea! I genuinely do not think I would be able to spot you as an elim. I've played team based games with you plenty of times, and you always play to have fun. I'm not sure your behavior will change regardless of alignment, so I'm not going to be able to figure out if you're an elim until we execute at least one Eliminator, and then I can look at how/if you've interacted with them.

 

 

[OoklaApologist She/her]

7 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

• Can the Brown Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left?
• Can the Green Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left? What about 3?

I think I know this one. Ajah abilities can only be used in the presence of 3+ sitters, so no, no, and yes.

[TwinStorm He/Him]

10 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

@|TJ| Some questions for you.

1. What are the actual definitions of Majority vote vs Plurality Vote?
2.        Does Majority mean “More than half of all living players”?
3.        Does Plurality mean “More than any other candidate”?
4. When will we learn how many Deposition Votes the Amyrlin Seat must survive for?
5. Can the Brown Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left?
6. Can the Green Ajah use their ability if there are only 2 Sitters left? What about 3?
7. Are ties for Elevation randomly decided?
8. If a player is Executed or Night Killed, is the color of their Ajah revealed?
9. For the Inactivity Filter, is it looking at Election Votes, Execution Votes, or both?

AT everyone else, if we assume very conservative numbers, then we get 7 Executions this game to find all of the Black Ajah. That’s assuming that no one dies to the inactivity filter. If we assume 4 to 6 Elims, then I think it is unlikely that we will get to execute all of them. This game will probably be decided by an Elevation/Deposition vote.

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No Powers used W/3 Depositions, vs. Green Ajah Stilling W/2 Depositions

	Day	Night		Day	Night
Cycle 1	17 players left	5 Sitters Left		17 players left	4 Sitters Left
Cycle 2	15 players left	4 Sitters Left		15 players left	3 Sitters Left
Cycle 3	13 players left	3 Sitters Left		13 players left	2 Sitters Left
Cycle 4	11 players left	2 Sitters Left		11 players left	Deposition 1
Cycle 5	9 players left	Deposition 1		9 players left	Deposition 2
Cycle 6	7 players left	Deposition 2		7 players left
Cycle 7	5 players left	Deposotion 3		5 players left

To give us time to find the Black Ajah, I think we need to avoid elevating anyone, because we don't have a surefire way to truly clear anyone.  Now, onto finding a Black Ajah day 1! There are only 12 people we can Execute today. Who should I vote for? Let's try to have lots of votes today, remember, there is an Inactivity Filter.

    The Wandering Wizard - Evelyn Rosemary

He agreed to add the Bee Movie to his doc for TJ's sake. For that alone, I'm not voting on him just yet. Nothing else he's said was alignment indicative, just having fun on Night zero. Nothing wrong with that, he made the thread a welcoming place. I would hope to hear more from him this cycle.

KelsierApologist - Coprolite

She made a very interesting game post last cycle, when she discussed why she wasn't going to run for Sitter. While her reasoning could be used to try to manipulate her sitter, it still feels very village, and I'm not inclined to think of her as an Elim right now. Soft Village Lean.

TwinStorm - Melian

Made some Roleplay, and answered a question in the thread. Non-Alignment indicative, but he is at least paying attention to the game, which is good. He also knows BridgeBoi in real life, which is good to know. TwinStorm, I would love to know your thoughts on BridgeBoi. Are you surprised that they became the Blue Sitter?

Experience

@Experience you never did post in Night 0. Looks like you haven't posted anywhere in Tar Valon since the beginning of the Month. Are you active in your doc? We'd love to hear more from you. I won't even trick you into drawing an Ace this time. No Alignment Indications, obviously.

Ashbringer

You've made a few interesting posts Ashbringer. You brought up the idea of the non-sitters revealing who they are doc mates with. You've done a lot of interesting analysis of the idea of revealing Ajah, and I'm generally leaning Village on you so far. Nothing you've said seems like it could favor an Elim, which would be more suspicious if you were a Sitter.

Kasimir - Kamil Lovric

. . . I don't want to go reread all 29 of your posts to analyze you Kasimir. That's too many, and I'm only halfway through the non-sitters.

ThatOneWorldhopper - Alkarii Tay'TerTüne

Hi TOW! I've been having fun Role-Playing with you. How are you finding the game so far? I don't have any reads on you yet, so I'd appreciate if you could answer the following question: Do you think the Black Ajah are more likely to try to delay any Sitter getting Elevated to Amrylin Seat, or do you think they're more likely to push for one of their Sitters to get Elevated very early on?

DrakeMarshall

Drake, you're actually someone I expected to become a Sitter. Honestly not sure why I thought that, possibly just because you are a name I remember/recognize? You've had interesting thoughts about mass claiming, and are in favor of it. You've stated you have a very slight elim read on xxGaea, on the basis of them not having a strong opinion directly after Kas speculated that Elims would have a strong opinion one way or the other. You never stated whether or not their defense was enough to sway you to neutral or not. Are you still suspicious of xxGaea?

I'm voting on Drake for now, for two reasons. They've posted a lot of analysis, but none of it has given me a village lean, which is not the same as being suspicious, but right now it's the best I've got. The second reason is that they were slightly suspicious of xxGaea, who can do no wrong. =P (for context, xxGaea and I are married IRL)

Mark IV

Mark made a wonderfully long post about his thoughts on the game. I get a Village Lean from it and him, but am disappointed that he's not trusting his gut when it tells him I'm a Villager. Do you still think the non-sitter pairs should reveal?

Teldris Anuar - Tesan Alruddin

Hello Teldris! I feel like I should have said welcome to the forum earlier, but I only just now realized you're brand new. I'm guessing from your post that you didn't run for Sitter in your Ajaw, is that correct?

STINK - Rasmuht

Good morning Stink. How did you sleep?

xxGaea - Altea O’Canavan, aka Nameless Whisper

Hello xxGaea! I genuinely do not think I would be able to spot you as an elim. I've played team based games with you plenty of times, and you always play to have fun. I'm not sure your behavior will change regardless of alignment, so I'm not going to be able to figure out if you're an elim until we execute at least one Eliminator, and then I can look at how/if you've interacted with them.

 

 

For Bridgeboi . . . yes, I am. I was expecting a not active role for his first game ever, but I'm glad to see he'll be involved. I have a v/lean towards him, but that could easily be biase.

As for myself, I'll hopefully be more active when the game picks up, but school makes that hard.

I don't have things on everyone, but thoughts on a few people

For my thoughts, I think Ashbringer is approaching this game too analytically to be an elim, so soft village lean, but that could change in the near future.

I also think Jo in the Bush's anaylsis is good so, v/lean

KelsierApologist village cuz I have a gut feeling abt that and thought your post was convincing, but again, I could be wrong

Don't know who Imma vote for just yet, but I think none of the above, tho some (especially ones I cleared on analysis, could easily be elims. Just cuz there approaching the game analytically don't mean they're village)

Edited March 22, 2025 by TwinStorm

[STINK he/him]

10 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Good morning Stink. How did you sleep?

Ain't done that yet, still wondering how my character became a character of the thread but I'm willing to run with that tbh

[OoklaApologist She/her]

I’d like to bring to y’all’s attention a post by @Mark IV at the end of last cycle

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Ajah non-sitter pair reveals make sense to me, really. The sitter can't be pressured easily due to immunity, so if both non sitters die in an Ajah with an E!Sitter, then we'd be none the wiser, and we'd have a loose E!Sitter with free access to the ajah power. At least pair claiming ensures we know when both non sitters are dead in an Ajah. (On a side note, I'm kinda imagining non-sitters as watchdogs for sitters in their ajah, hence my reasoning above)

I honestly think this is a great idea. How does everyone feel about pair claiming?

[BridgeBoi]

3 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

I’d like to bring to y’all’s attention a post by @Mark IV at the end of last cycle

I honestly think this is a great idea. How does everyone feel about pair claiming?

I’m fine with Ajah claiming. Otherwise negotiations and investigations are too weird and hard. 

[OoklaApologist She/her]

1 minute ago, BridgeBoi said:

I’m fine with Ajah claiming. Otherwise negotiations and investigations are too weird and hard. 

I was considering claiming your non-sitter ajah partner so elims can’t target specific ajahs, and in the event we need info about either sus ajah power use or a sitter is left alone in an ajah, the sitter can provide who their pair is. It mostly protects against, imo, e!sitters controlling an ajah

[TwinStorm He/Him]

13 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

I’d like to bring to y’all’s attention a post by @Mark IV at the end of last cycle

I honestly think this is a great idea. How does everyone feel about pair claiming?

I'm down for it, that way we can have democracy amongst the ajahs

that sounds weird, but Polly already said everything that could be said on it and I agree