Quick Fix Game 71: 5D Shard Game With Multiverse Time Travel*

[Cash67]

1 hour ago, Kidpen said:

Wdym? We have to identify all the heretics regardless, since our win condition is eliminating them.

No you have to eliminate all but one. If the initial killed is returned, I think their elimination no longer counts towards win con. 

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

I'm just curious why you'd poke rather than stab. Knowing it's a poke dilutes the vote's utility and creates expectations.

Uhhhhhhh what?

Why do we need to identify all three Heretics? @DrakeMarshall Doesn't the flipped heretic no longer count to wincon, therefore the last two are still Lovers?

I was considering giving some Village points for the suggestion, but I actually think it might be just slightly in your Elim range, so I'm conflicted. I have further thoughts on the issue but am considering keeping them to myself for the moment. This is weighted by the fact I have an appointment in the morning so might not be available as readily as I'd like to drop them.

But you don't vote Archer. Interesting. Considering an Elim lean here.

I like contested votes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They usually are more indicative than if we just kinda agree. Sure we can say get a good pivot-free margin, but I'm usually a fan of contestation and having to persuade others because it shows where your priorities are.

Edited to add:

@Cash67 Is there any reason you assume we have three Heretics?

Small player count mainly. And the fact that the game ain’t balanced without at least three. 

1 hour ago, Aeternum said:

On the assumption that voting out an elim today causes the other two to be lovers (like what Kas was saying) (also calling them lovers is very funny), it would be more beneficial to knock out an elim today imo. Assuming I'm understanding this correctly.

You're technically basing that off of one game (which was also my first game)

 

1 hour ago, TheRavenHasLanded said:

*snoring* wait huh- oh hi yall. Sorry, i was asleep so i didnt get to see this. anyways, RBM thats rather rude of you, and just for reasons I can't articulate (like normal, welcome to my hideous SE gameplay), Cash67 has caught my eye. @Cash67

*waves*
 

54 minutes ago, Wierdo said:

Huh- I mean, cash Did vote me earlier- so- might aswel join ya with Cash67.

Valid. 
*turns on chaotic British accent*
THE TRAIN HAS BEGUN NOOOO

Edited May 5, 2024 by Cash67

[Archer he/him]

22 minutes ago, The Unknown Ajah said:

I'd agree that suggesting that is firmly within my e!range, though I'm not sure I'd think of it. 

Generally a good idea 

I don't want to make Kas essentially immortal if he doesn't have the time or just doesn't want it. Kas tends to like soaking up the elim kill.

I'll not that this is Weirdo's first game, so I'd probably put this down to FNG.

Doesn't FNG imply it's an act? 

Kas is also around during rollover, which is a point against making him Returned. 

2 minutes ago, Cash67 said:

No you have to eliminate all but one. If the initial killed is returned, I think their elimination no longer counts towards win con. 

Small player count mainly. And the fact that the game ain’t balanced without at least three. 

*waves*
 

Can you run me through your distro balance thoughts, considering the weird rules? 

[Aeoryi she/her]

I believe the player eliminated day 1 no longer counts towards parity (and thus, their win condition), can't vote, and can't be targeted, meaning they are basically a dead player that can talk in thread 

Edited to add:

27 minutes ago, The Unknown Ajah said:

I'd agree that suggesting that is firmly within my e!range, though I'm not sure I'd think of it. 

Generally a good idea 

I don't want to make Kas essentially immortal if he doesn't have the time or just doesn't want it. Kas tends to like soaking up the elim kill.

I'll not that this is Weirdo's first game, so I'd probably put this down to FNG.

I agree. I think that if we want to intentionally butcher a villager here it needs to be consensus and the target needs to be fine with it 

Edited May 5, 2024 by Aeoryi

[Cash67]

Just now, Archer said:

Doesn't FNG imply it's an act? 

Kas is also around during rollover, which is a point against making him Returned. 

Can you run me through your distro balance thoughts, considering the weird rules? 

Yeah. We have twelve people. Elims just need to outnumber village, so that means assuming 3 elims, 6 V need to be eliminated. With four E, only 4 V need to be eliminated. 
 

4 E allows for only two rounds assuming two village execs each day. 3 E makes sense and allows for minimum of 3 rounds. Still plenty of gameplay. 2 E does not make sense with the lovers rule. 

[Aeoryi she/her]

Edited to add 2

How do I use tallybot again

[Kidpen he/him]

10 minutes ago, Cash67 said:

No you have to eliminate all but one. If the initial killed is returned, I think their elimination no longer counts towards win con. 

Wouldn't this imply that we lose automatically if the first vote is a Heretic? Since they are dead, I definitely think the last two would be considered "the last two" and become lovers.

I feel okay about Cash's explanation.

Cash67. Wierdo.

Edit:
Current tally btw.

Vote Tally

Cash67 (2): TheRavenHasLanded, Wierdo

TheRavenHasLanded (2): Archer, RoyalBeeMage

Wierdo (2): Cash67, Kidpen

Eternum (1): Spark of Hope

Kidpen (1): Weaver of Lies

Archer (1): Kasimir

Aeoryi (1): Aeternum

Edited May 5, 2024 by Kidpen

[Aeoryi she/her]

5 minutes ago, Cash67 said:

Yeah. We have twelve people. Elims just need to outnumber village, so that means assuming 3 elims, 6 V need to be eliminated. With four E, only 4 V need to be eliminated. 
 

4 E allows for only two rounds assuming two village execs each day. 3 E makes sense and allows for minimum of 3 rounds. Still plenty of gameplay. 2 E does not make sense with the lovers rule. 

The standard way to determine the number of elims in a game is ~20%, although I heard of a method where you take the number of elims, multiply it by 3, and then add one to get the number of villagers.

So basically, there's a chance we have 3 elims, but also an okay chance that we have 2.

[Kasimir he/him]

24 minutes ago, Kidpen said:

Wouldn't this imply that we lose automatically if the first vote is a Heretic? Since they are dead, I definitely think the last two would be considered "the last two" and become lovers.

I just glanced before trying to go back to sleep and I cannot even

Is this an Elim slip

Why the heck is the first vote being for a Heretic in any way a loss for the Village 

Who is this us here

Why.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Why do we need to identify all three Heretics? @DrakeMarshall Doesn't the flipped heretic no longer count to wincon, therefore the last two are still Lovers?

The Returned counts as dead for the purposes of wincons, yes. So if there are three heretics, and if you vote out one of them today and they become Returned, then the last two indeed become Lovers.

[Kidpen he/him]

7 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I just glanced before trying to go back to sleep and I cannot even

Is this an Elim slip

Why the heck is the first vote being for a Heretic in any way a loss for the Village 

Who is this us here

Why.

"their elimination no longer counts towards win con" was the particular phrasing. I didn't mean it as a serious possibility.

[Through the Living Hope]

5 hours ago, Aeternum said:

Votes so far:

1 for Archer (Kas)

1 for Aet (Spark of Hope) how dare you smh

1 for Raven (Royal)

1 for Weirdo (Cash)

1 for Kidpen (Archer)

1 for TUA (Aeo)

 

THAT'S not very nice, Spark of Hope. What's your reasoning, hm?? 

On that note, it's clearly Aeoryi . Once evil, always evil smh. Oh wait...

*also votes, doesn't elaborate, and leaves*

Ok see you in several hours!

I just picked a random person I didn’t know lol.

[Aeternum]

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Like a husky I will scream if asked to share my reasoning

What's your reasoning

Idk about everyone else but I am not voting Kas today. Waste of a Kas imo.

In my understanding, voting out an elim today is better - then we only have to vote out one more to win (right? that's how it works?). I don't have any specific elim reads yet, but I've got Kas on the town list. Would like to hear more from Royal, Raven, Weaver, and Weirdo 

1 minute ago, Spark of Hope said:

I just picked a random person I didn’t know lol.

How dare you pick me smh 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, Archer said:

Doesn't FNG imply it's an act? 

Kas is also around during rollover, which is a point against making him Returned. 

Can you run me through your distro balance thoughts, considering the weird rules? 

Good point, didn't mean it that way. Though freaking new guy as a saying does seem pretty applicable even to new villagers.

[Aeternum]

Is it too early for this? 

Please ignore my quoting style. I'm too lazy to direct quote what I'm looking at.

Just so everyone knows: I will not be around for rollover. I will be asleep. Very much asleep. Do not disturb me or I will summon the wrath of... idk. It occurred to me that I don't even know what Sanderson thing involved priests and stuff lol.

You're not evil list:
Kas (has also never been evil ever. salmon and evil don't mix, right?)
Me (obviously. I've never been evil for a single day of my life)
Kidpen (you're forgiven for any possible evil you have committed dw)

You could be evil list:
Archer - I personally dislike the

Quote

Kas: "Is there a reason you're tacitly ascribing a positive read valence, however mild, to conflict avoidance?"
Archer: "They said they were leaving after that. I'd return (haha pun) to them later if warranted.
Also Archer: "I'd rather someone else got the role." (Referring to the Returned thing)

Smh, you won't die for the village? (im jokin btw)
however the FNG thing makes me happier so you get a smiley face: 

Cash - for now.
Aeoyri - a smooth recovery tho, hmm?
Either way, I don't think Aeo is a good vote for today.

RoyalBeeMage - I can see RBM's posts as coming from wolf or town rn
However:

Quote

RBM: "ahh. i might change my vote when they get back online"
Archer: "Which was an early fold. You seem conflict adverse, RBM" (unvoted RBM)

I see "conflict adverse" as possible elim not wanting to draw attention to themself. Or a LHF I think it's called (<- that's me too), so I'd be less inclined to go with a RBM vote and would assume it's more likely to be wolf-led. FOR NOW AT LEAST

Weirdo - really hopping on that train early. but eh, idc rn.

Raven - not for today regardless. However, depending on how I feel about Archer later, I might move Raven more into the clear.
Specifically that's from

Quote

Raven: "*snoring* wait huh- oh hi yall. Sorry, i was asleep so i didnt get to see this. anyways, RBM thats rather rude of you, and just for reasons I can't articulate (like normal, welcome to my hideous SE gameplay), Cash67 has caught my eye."
Archer: "Hm. I don't like how self conscious this post is. An excuse for being late and a joke about themselves seems evil hyper aware."

But I'll let it slide because I'm probably biased rn. And tbh Raven's probably not evil.

Haven't seen enough to make a decision rn:
Weaver of Lies
Spark of Hope (pls talk more) (dw I'm shy too) (we can be friends) (unless you're evil????)

Statistical anomaly:
TUA - is defending Weirdo tho? Congrats on your own category 

ALSO I am terribly indecisive on what to do with my PM opportunity, so I will be holding onto it for now while I make this very important decision. Unless anyone wants to be friends... 

[Through the Living Hope]

Just now, Aeternum said:

Is it too early for this? 

Please ignore my quoting style. I'm too lazy to direct quote what I'm looking at.

Just so everyone knows: I will not be around for rollover. I will be asleep. Very much asleep. Do not disturb me or I will summon the wrath of... idk. It occurred to me that I don't even know what Sanderson thing involved priests and stuff lol.

You're not evil list:
Kas (has also never been evil ever. salmon and evil don't mix, right?)
Me (obviously. I've never been evil for a single day of my life)
Kidpen (you're forgiven for any possible evil you have committed dw)

You could be evil list:
Archer - I personally dislike the

Smh, you won't die for the village? (im jokin btw)
however the FNG thing makes me happier so you get a smiley face: 

Cash - for now.
Aeoyri - a smooth recovery tho, hmm?
Either way, I don't think Aeo is a good vote for today.

RoyalBeeMage - I can see RBM's posts as coming from wolf or town rn
However:

I see "conflict adverse" as possible elim not wanting to draw attention to themself. Or a LHF I think it's called (<- that's me too), so I'd be less inclined to go with a RBM vote and would assume it's more likely to be wolf-led. FOR NOW AT LEAST

Weirdo - really hopping on that train early. but eh, idc rn.

Raven - not for today regardless. However, depending on how I feel about Archer later, I might move Raven more into the clear.
Specifically that's from

But I'll let it slide because I'm probably biased rn. And tbh Raven's probably not evil.

Haven't seen enough to make a decision rn:
Weaver of Lies
Spark of Hope (pls talk more) (dw I'm shy too) (we can be friends) (unless you're evil????)

Statistical anomaly:
TUA - is defending Weirdo tho? Congrats on your own category 

ALSO I am terribly indecisive on what to do with my PM opportunity, so I will be holding onto it for now while I make this very important decision. Unless anyone wants to be friends... 

(I’m not this is just an inactive day for me) Aeternum

[Aeternum]

1 minute ago, Spark of Hope said:

(I’m not this is just an inactive day for me) Aeternum

You're not evil? If you're evil, you owe me cookies.

[Through the Living Hope]

7 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

You're not evil? If you're evil, you owe me cookies.

I am not evil. Just look at my face!  

[Aeternum]

1 minute ago, Spark of Hope said:

I am not evil. Just look at my face!  

You are indeed a spark of hope, hm.

If you're not evil, then tell me your thoughts so far.

[Through the Living Hope]

Just now, Aeternum said:

You are indeed a spark of hope, hm.

If you're not evil, then tell me your thoughts so far.

I’ve been inactive pretty much all day and don’t really have any lol

[Aeternum]

3 minutes ago, Spark of Hope said:

I’ve been inactive pretty much all day and don’t really have any lol

Who stands out to you rn? In any way.

Going to be take the great advice I was given and remind you that no contribution isn't helping your fellow non-evils if you're not evil.  I'd say not helping your case, but I don't reallly think you're a good vote today. This whole no kill / they're still around thing on the day 1 vote is really screwing me up lol

[Cash67]

4 minutes ago, Spark of Hope said:

I’ve been inactive pretty much all day and don’t really have any lol

So what you gotta do is move me up on @Aeternum’s good guy list. (If you do I’ll cook salmon for the all priests here, seasoned with my family’s seasoning)

[Aeternum]

Just now, Cash67 said:

So what you gotta do is move me up on @Aeternum’s good guy list. (If you do I’ll cook salmon for the all priests here, seasoned with my family’s seasoning)

You're so moving down on the list, evil one!! If you make a nice apology salmon for me, I shall consider moving you back.

Sad that it's not May the 4th anymore, so I can't make a joke related to that.

[Aeoryi she/her]

The best thing a villager can do is be genuine and express their thoughts clearly. If you're struggling to figure out what to say or what to do, try sharing how you feel, or a certain post that made you feel a certain way. 

 

[Through the Living Hope]

I just haven’t had time to read everything today

 

[Aeternum]

6 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

The best thing a villager can do is be genuine and express their thoughts clearly. If you're struggling to figure out what to say or what to do, try sharing how you feel, or a certain post that made you feel a certain way. 

 

So Aeo. How do YOU feel.