Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I mean, it's obvious that someone has Tin, and that they could be elim, so Bip's claim isn't really worth anything. Well, it’s worth knowing because she is either a convert!Tineye or in league with one, or we have three village Tineyes.….so actually we can probably vote Biplet pretty safely, yeah?
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Well, it’s worth knowing because she is either a convert!Tineye or in league with one, or we have three village Tineyes.….so actually we can probably vote Biplet pretty safely, yeah?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Well, it’s worth knowing because she is either a convert!Tineye or in league with one, or we have three village Tineyes.….so actually we can probably vote Biplet pretty safely, yeah? I would criticize you for being all over the place if I hadn’t changed my own vote so many times already.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Is anyone else worried about InquisiBip with Pewter? Fifth recommitting there is concerning and I think I’m the only player not voting her.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: Is anyone else worried about InquisiBip with Pewter? Fifth recommitting there is concerning and I think I’m the only player not voting her. It is funny you call my vote a commitment when I have basically been a headless chicken this cycle but thanks
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: Is anyone else worried about InquisiBip with Pewter? Fifth recommitting there is concerning and I think I’m the only player not voting her. Not really, since there are better ways to get deliberately exed. See C4 of this game . 1
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Not really, since there are better ways to get deliberately exed. See C4 of this game . Then I guess I'm Bip's partner cause busing her seems like an unnecessary play otherwise.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: Then I guess I'm Bip's partner cause busing her seems like an unnecessary play otherwise. I mean, didn't you try and make the same point last cycle when we were voting Wiz and it was obvious he was elim?
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I mean, didn't you try and make the same point last cycle when we were voting Wiz and it was obvious he was elim? Yup! That was when I thought it was InquisiWiz
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 I guess we have to balance the risk of InquisiBip with Pewter today against the risk of InquisiBip tomorrow with vote manip. I'd really rather just have her out of the way. 1
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 @Amanuensis I have a reason you should hop on Bip and not me today. She has claimed to scan me with Tin, but got blocked. I have claimed this is the result of my using electrum. Therefore, there are four possibilities: 1) we are both village and neither of us are lying, in which case pragmatically this game is over, but pretending for a second it isn’t, it’s still better to leave me alive 2) she is evil and telling the truth, and I am Village and telling the truth. She should get exed in this situation, which I believe to be the true state of affairs. 3) we are evil together and organised this as a distancing ploy. You can vote her and still get rid of an Elim, and it’s the Inquisitor to boot. 4) Bip is village and I am evil. However, she has still scanned me as basically doing nothing this cycle, since only electrum could negate her result. In this world, you still need to find which of Araris and TJ are evil, and that person, again, should be your priority target. You should also be asking why I am burning electrum as a elim when I had copper sitting right there. So I really see no reason for you to be keeping your vote on me over Bip or whomever of Araris/TJ you think is the Inquisitor, and your continued refusal to go back to her is making me think you two are simply in league.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 The problem with e!Aman is we kinda lose in that world too, unless a kill gets blocked.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Araris Valerian said: The problem with e!Aman is we kinda lose in that world too, unless a kill gets blocked. I maintain Aman is lying about being a Thug if he’s evil
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Fifth Scholar said: I maintain Aman is lying about being a Thug if he’s evil So Aman cannot be the Inquisitor via TKN's action scan, which means he would have been converted, and he claimed Thug C2, which is definitely prior to the conversion.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 Well, rusts. We’re probably dead either way then. But I do think Bip still fits neatly in most of the elim teams. maybe once I am done translating Greek I will map out whatever the storms has been going on
|TJ| he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 I'm having a headache trying to figure this out smh. a. If Inq!Aman is scanned to have done nothing in C2 -> Wiz should have submitted the kill on Stick in C2 -> But Wiz also knew Bip's role in C3 -> Wiz banked on a future convert on Bip and lied during C3 in the hopes of converting Bip in C3. Therefore, Inq!Aman works only and only if Biplet had been converted in C3 (or C4 if Inq rolled Tin for the duration of C4). Wiz obviously did not scan Mat as he killed TKN. Inq converted Biplet. b. Inq!Bip -> Wiz did not scan anyone in C2 -> Wiz could have killed in C2 and Inq could have converted -> Honestly any of the three could be converted, since Fifth claims to have burned Iron in that cycle. Little less chance of converted Araris because of atium. Little more chance of converted Aman because of the Thug claim. c. Inq!Araris -> Kas did not scan Araris -> Kas killed Bookwyrm. Araris converted someone -> Unlikely to be Fifth due to voting pressure. Possibly Aman due to elim team synergy of Kas-Araris-Aman. Biplet slightly less possible. (a) and (b) required e!Biplet, so going for her is the correct decision here, I feel. If it's (c), well I don't think I can make an argument to convince y'all to vote Araris this cycle. I don't think I can convince myself. Can just say "Araris staunchly read Kas as village", that's all.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 WAIT a horrible terrible idea just occurred to me @StrikerEZ will the convert flip as a Spiked, or as a Spiked convert? I.e. are they differentiated from regular Spiked henchmen?
|TJ| he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 Just realized another village point for Araris. If he's evil, he knows I'm Unsnapped with no reason to lie about my Snapping condition. Then him making me counter-train to the elim is risky because suppose it's Elim 3-2 TJ and elims have a Soothe, then there is a chance that in addition to the elim dying, I could Snap and get Soothe/Riot/Thug/Lurcher/Coinshot. So elims probably avoid making me the counter-train here.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 What if the world is upside down and it’s Araris and TJ >>
StrikerEZ he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Author Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Fifth Scholar said: @StrikerEZ will the convert flip as a Spiked, or as a Spiked convert? I.e. are they differentiated from regular Spiked henchmen? The convert would flip as a Spiked [role(s) here]. The writeup would not specifically say they were a convert.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: What if the world is upside down and it’s Araris and TJ >> So Araris and Wiz planned that bus to gain cred? And Araris has been hyperdistancing with TJ?
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: The convert would flip as a Spiked [role(s) here]. The writeup would not specifically say they were a convert. Yeah, but I don’t buy Kas being a convert for 2 reasons; the convert should have 2 roles, since everyone this game is either an allomancer or unsnapped, and also because converting Kas is mean.
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) At this point I’m just not voting Bip in protest Biplet (3): Fifth Scholar, Araris Valerian, |TJ| Fifth Scholar (1): Amanuensis Edited March 2, 2023 by Amanuensis
Biplet she/her Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 On 3/1/2023 at 0:09 PM, Amanuensis said: Yeah true. Which really only works with a Tin spike or convert TJ snapping Tin. Bip can then fake Tineye orders. @Biplet what were all your results again? (C1-C5) Ash targeted Stick C1 I forgor to scan C2 because life C3 I saw mat do nothing C4 was my fifth scan sorry for lack of responses, life has been running me over, but I will prevail!!
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