Ashbringer he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: If they claim we can hold them accountable for their actions and track the number of unknown trolls if they come up Maybe. But unless Araris's hinted role gets expanded upon, we haven't actually seen anything that indicates we have a way to track players. Matching hostile Trolls to players will be difficult then. Plus, forcibly having people claim roles and actions is boring.
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, |TJ| said: theyll get suspected? xD Shh don't dissuade them from claiming But no, it'll just make accountability simpler. Edit: Just now, Ashbringer said: Plus, forcibly having people claim roles and actions is boring Of course, they should only claim if they want to Edited January 31, 2023 by _Stick_
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Something I’ve been wondering since I read my GM PM. What happens if we Troll the NK? Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Something I’ve been wondering since I read my GM PM. What happens if we Troll the NK? Probably kills the NKer Or protects the target
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Something to keep in mind for the long game. Village Trolls could be very useful in either case when there’s less targets to choose from. Might be best I remain the sole public troll (ED1T) and the Village Trolls chill until we need them Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Balanced: Nothing Consistent: Turns into a Protect Funny: Redirect to Random target, who's Trolling now Help LG43 rework demands redirects
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, |TJ| said: ill repeat my above point. i was not happy because of the role, i was happy because i thought football flavor existed in the game. now about the reaction analysis. what is the assumption here? that there is an elim with football-like role? or there isnt? bcause what is the difference between the reaction of a goodie with no knowledge of football and a baddie team with no footballers? similarly, what is the difference between the reaction of a goodie with football role and a baddie who has knowledge of football teammates? i think outliers would be - if baddie footballer exist -> non-football role [potential non-football baddie teammate knowing football role exists] or football role [the baddie footballer in the baddie team] plus quick silent acceptance = likely baddie if no baddie footballer -> non-football role plus vehement doubt in the claim = likely baddie but how to know is there is a baddie footballer. your guess is as good as mine. @The Known Novel, did you troll someone last night? current thoughts on shining - "why are they the way they are? >>" kas probably rofl-ing >> only now???? and my reads... my poor reads are all converging to one big idk pile. ash goes low, stick goes low, maybe ada slightly high. I am not a Troll. As much as I would find making something up fun, I do not have a second role.
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Funny: Redirect to Random target, who's Trolling now If elims count in the rng I’m cool with that. Sounds fun
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Why is it called Goalkeeper again? In the very early days of SE, Gamma Fiend had crazy Lurcher accuracy. Wyrm was gathering stats and referred to Gamma’s record as being “top-tier goalkeeping” and for a while everyone called lurching goalkeeping. Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Okay, that is very satisfactory. Football roles didn't fit xD
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Yeah. Which should be a large point in my favor. E!Me would know other roles from my team and wouldn’t claim something outlandish
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: Yeah. Which should be a large point in my favor. E!Me would know other roles from my team and wouldn’t claim something outlandish Somehow I feel that you'd find a way But that is true. Somewhat.
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Okay yeah maybe,,,,, Like I said earlier, I can't really find incentives for E!Aman pulling this. I'm just a little paranoid and I'll file it away but not throw it away.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Okay yeah maybe,,,,, Like I said earlier, I can't really find incentives for E!Aman pulling this. I'm just a little paranoid and I'll file it away but not throw it away. There’s always the consideration that anything!Ada would do it just for fun. I don’t really think it is AI for him, given I have distinct memories of him lying about his role as both village and elim. As village, he lied about having alignment scanned a player as elim (said player flipped village and the whole thing ended poorly for everyone involved), and as elim he managed an excellent fake Kandra claim. Edited January 31, 2023 by Araris Valerian
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: There’s always the consideration that anything!Ada would do it just for fun. I don’t really think it is AI for him, given I have distinct memories of him lying about his role as both village and elim. As village, he lied about having alignment scanned a player as elim (said player flipped village and the whole thing ended poorly for everyone involved), and as elim he managed an excellent fake Kandra claim. You know, I was looking for that Kandra claim game earlier. If you remember, let me know the number There’s also incidences of Village power role me claiming fake roles. In Nyali’s cosmere game, Cognitive Dissonance, I was Harmony and invented the TenSoon role for myself ED1T: Anyway more importantly, vote discussion. No one is invested in helping Silho, so… ED2T: @The Bookwyrm, if you’re willing, I’d love a scan on Orlok. If he’s elim, it would probably mean the elims don’t have a Goalkeeper. If he’s village, we can rejoice ED3T: @xinoehp512, you and Orlok both had strong negative responses to my Refugee Referee claim. Do you have two roles like Striker? Or just a very obvious SE flavored one? Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Omg this entire time I thought I was writing Referee lmao (I literally just wrote Refugee again and almost hit send) (I’m getting old okay?) Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: There's that Refugee again... So do you have reads yet?
Orlok Tsubodai Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Seeker does take priority over Lurcher, sorry Plus you tried to kill me last night. And just so you know, I did consider Trolling you myself instead on banking on me getting Trolled last night. I kinda wish I did for the lols ED1T: @Orlok Tsubodai current opinion of Stick? Confused, to be blunt. I am trying to play this game before and after work, giving me about 90 minutes a day of consistent time to commit. The volume of noise in this thread is significant, and isn’t helped by deliberate trolling for the sake of it, or by short back and forth posting on trivialities, as it sometimes seems. I am trying to keep up, and hope to carve out some time later this week, if I can finish work at a vaguely reasonable time, to go through the thread and tabulate role claims and claimed actions. With the dead able to speak, and confirm their actions, I’d guess that this is a largely solvable puzzle.
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 58 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: So do you have reads yet? See, I asked people to clarify if their reads had changed and only one person responded And I’m still wondering why no one else seems to want to push Dannex. Or rather, why people are putting pressure on JNV and Bip and not Dannex. Everyone else seems characteristic. Maybe slight V read of TJ, slight E read of Shining, slight ??? read of Stick.
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: See, I asked people to clarify if their reads had changed and only one person responded And I’m still wondering why no one else seems to want to push Dannex. Or rather, why people are putting pressure on JNV and Bip and not Dannex. Everyone else seems characteristic. Maybe slight V read of TJ, slight E read of Shining, slight ??? read of Stick. Eh. I've got no problem with a cheeky Danex vote ED1T: 6 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: Confused, to be blunt. I am trying to play this game before and after work, giving me about 90 minutes a day of consistent time to commit. The volume of noise in this thread is significant, and isn’t helped by deliberate trolling for the sake of it, or by short back and forth posting on trivialities, as it sometimes seems. I am trying to keep up, and hope to carve out some time later this week, if I can finish work at a vaguely reasonable time, to go through the thread and tabulate role claims and claimed actions. With the dead able to speak, and confirm their actions, I’d guess that this is a largely solvable puzzle. Looking forward to your insight now that I've cleared up my Referee (not Refugee) gambit. ED2T: BTW I am so so so so so incredibly disappointed that us Goalkeepers can't self-protect. It would be hilarious the amount of paranoia I would have of accidentally killing myself because of a Troll. Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
Stick. she/her Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Good bucket: Wiz, Fae, Randby, Bookwyrm, Archer, Fardran, Aman, TKN, Steel, Ash, Walin, Sart Bad bucket: Araris, TJ, Dannex, Orlok, Shining, Mat, JNV, Bip, xino, Ash, Walin Yes Ash and Walin are in both ._. @Walin you implied a role but never elaborated - you don’t have to reveal it just yet but any insights/results that you’d like to share?
Amanuensis he/him Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) (2) Shining Silhouette: Archer, The Wandering Wizard, (2) Danex: Ashbringer, Adavantos, (2) Ashbringer: Mat(t)rim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, (2) Metalcognition: |TJ|, Bookwyrm, (1) Mat(t)trim's Dice: _Stick_, (1) Archer: The last Fae in the Woods, (1) _Stick_: Metalcognition, ED1T: @The Bookwyrm On 1/28/2023 at 10:44 PM, Kasimir said: The Bookwyrm (3): StrikerEZ, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 You had three different options for your alignment scan, right? Can you tell me the reason you decided Striker over Wizard or Xino? Edited January 31, 2023 by Amanuensis
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