The Battle for the Sandwich

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

4 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

The lightning strikes you down. You get Lightning damage

I would assume this would kill a fish, but you know.

You dont know where the star stream is. And in the star stream, The Oldest Dream has complete Omniscience. The Oldest Dream is a member of Kim Dokja's Company.

Well, sophons kind of have complete omniscience too. I fold several up into 11 Dimensions and send them all at light speed to locate the Star Stream. I then threaten to broadcast your coordinates.

2 minutes ago, ChipsAHoid said:

coder! U spoiled smth!

I'm kind of already spoiling a lot more.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

19 minutes ago, ChipsAHoid said:

coder! U spoiled smth!

no i didnt

its not spoilers

fine ill spoiler everything from now on

15 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Well, sophons kind of have complete omniscience too. I fold several up into 11 Dimensions and send them all at light speed to locate the Star Stream. I then threaten to broadcast your coordinates.

I'm kind of already spoiling a lot more.

Spoiler

The Oldest Dream thinks a thought and they disapear.

 

[ChipsAHoid He/Him]

16 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Well, sophons kind of have complete omniscience too. I fold several up into 11 Dimensions and send them all at light speed to locate the Star Stream. I then threaten to broadcast your coordinates.

I'm kind of already spoiling a lot more.

…did u read it?

Also, 1st time I can’t read a spoiler box lol

Edited July 9, 2025 by ChipsAHoid

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, ChipsAHoid said:

…did u read it?

Also, 1st time I can’t read a spoiler box lol

hehehe

you know it really isnt that big of a spoiler

the things  that i am 'spoiling' are more afteraffects of other things and not big plot points

and u dont even know who the Oldest Dream is.

But you do know his puppet.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 minute ago, ChipsAHoid said:

…did u read it?

Also, 1st time I can’t read a spoiler box lol

Nope. I'm kind of spoiling The Three-Body Problem though.

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

no i didnt

its not spoilers

fine ill spoiler everything from now on

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The Oldest Dream thinks a thought and they disapear.

 

Then WaT happens to the Sandwich?

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Nope. I'm kind of spoiling The Three-Body Problem though.

Then WaT happens to the Sandwich?

The sandwich is still in the Star Stream and in the hands of

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The Demon King of Salvation, protected by The Puppet of The Oldest Dream and The Oldest Dream

 

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

The sandwich is still in the Star Stream and in the hands of

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The Demon King of Salvation, protected by The Puppet of The Oldest Dream and The Oldest Dream

 

But now I know where the Star Stream is and can use Dark Forest Deterrence. So hand over the Sandwich.

 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Just now, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

But now I know where the Star Stream is and can use Dark Forest Deterrence. So hand over the Sandwich.

 

whats that

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The Oldest Dream can think it away

 

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1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

whats that

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The Oldest Dream can think it away

 

So how the Dark Forest works will kind of take time to explain,

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but basically what it means is that it is in the best interest for an intelligent civilisation to destroy any other civilisation they come across.

So, by broadcasting your location, an alien will pick it up eventually and destroy you. Even if they suspect the signal if fake, the risk is too great. And they are not going to wait fora communication, as across the vastness of space that would take decades.

So an alien civilisation possibly millennia ahead tech-wise will destroy you

unless I have the Sandwich.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Just now, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

So how the Dark Forest works will kind of take time to explain,

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but basically what it means is that it is in the best interest for an intelligent civilisation to destroy any other civilisation they come across.

So, by broadcasting your location, an alien will pick it up eventually and destroy you. Even if they suspect the signal if fake, the risk is too great. And they are not going to wait fora communication, as across the vastness of space that would take decades.

So an alien civilisation possibly millennia ahead tech-wise will destroy you

unless I have the Sandwich.

lol you think any alien can defeat the the Star Stream?

Also, let me explain something

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The Oldest Dream is the most powerful being. The Star Streams are his Dream, and where he resides. Because it is his dream, everything that occurs in there is under his complete control. If something enters his dream, it is part of his dream, and therefor, he has omnipotence over it.

So they would be instantly cooked the moment they entered. That, and the First Scenario.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

lol you think any alien can defeat the the Star Stream?

Also, let me explain something

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The Oldest Dream is the most powerful being. The Star Streams are his Dream, and where he resides. Because it is his dream, everything that occurs in there is under his complete control. If something enters his dream, it is part of his dream, and therefor, he has omnipotence over it.

So they would be instantly cooked the moment they entered. That, and the First Scenario.

Ahh but

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The aliens can enter a higher dimensional fragment and destroy you without even entering the Star Stream fully. 

 

ORV vs Remembrance of Earth's Past Trilogy

I can bring in Enderverse and Dune if I need to.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

3 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Ahh but

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The aliens can enter a higher dimensional fragment and destroy you without even entering the Star Stream fully. 

 

ORV vs Remembrance of Earth's Past Trilogy

I can bring in Enderverse and Dune if I need to.

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Anything, even their weapon can be though out of existence when entering the star stream. And The Oldest Dream can just dodge.

 

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1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

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Anything, even their weapon can be though out of existence when entering the star stream. And The Oldest Dream can just dodge.

 

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Can't dodge in 10 spatial dimensions though.

The Old Dream's ability to dream in the first place can be destroyed.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

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Can't dodge in 10 spatial dimensions though.

The Old Dream's ability to dream in the first place can be destroyed.

okay i dont actually understand how this works, because that is, for a fact, impossible.

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Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

okay i dont actually understand how this works, because that is, for a fact, impossible.

The Old Dream's whatever keeps it alive can be removed.

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If you were referring the 10 Dimensions, that's possible. The sophons do it.

 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

The Old Dream's whatever keeps it alive can be removed.

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If you were referring the 10 Dimensions, that's possible. The sophons do it.

 

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What keeps the Oldest Dream alive is its dream. You cannot destroy it's dream nor its ability to dream, because the multiverse in which it resides outside of the bounds is its dream, and it has complete control over its dream and everything in its dream, also having the ability to dodge an attack that moves so fast that "the concept of speed cannot apply because it goes and an instantanious pace outside of time". Thats how fast he is.

Couple that with his complete omniscience and omnipotence,

no

they could not kill him

 

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4 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

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What keeps the Oldest Dream alive is its dream. You cannot destroy it's dream nor its ability to dream, because the multiverse in which it resides outside of the bounds is its dream, and it has complete control over its dream and everything in its dream, also having the ability to dodge an attack that moves so fast that "the concept of speed cannot apply because it goes and an instantanious pace outside of time". Thats how fast he is.

Couple that with his complete omniscience and omnipotence,

no

they could not kill him

 

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But the aliens are in 10 dimensions

Old Dream has no 10D experience the way it actually works

Quantum Entanglement moves outside of time too.

The Remembrance of Earth's Past Trilogy is hard sci-fi, so everything I'm saying is plausible.

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The 10 dimensions are derived from String Theory. 

 

Edited July 9, 2025 by KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

12 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

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But the aliens are in 10 dimensions

Old Dream has no 10D experience the way it actually works

Quantum Entanglement moves outside of time too.

The Remembrance of Earth's Past Trilogy is hard sci-fi, so everything I'm saying is plausible.

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The 10 dimensions are derived from String Theory. 

 

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If the 10 Dimensions exist within the star stream, The Oldest Dream knows about it. He isn't some semi-omniscient being like the shards, he is a Truely omnisicient being. If he does not imagine it, it cannot and will not exist.

So either The Oldest Dream has full and complete knowledge of the 10 Dimensions, or they merely do not exist in the star streams.

 

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Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

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If the 10 Dimensions exist within the star stream, The Oldest Dream knows about it. He isn't some semi-omniscient being like the shards, he is a Truely omnisicient being. If he does not imagine it, it cannot and will not exist.

So either The Oldest Dream has full and complete knowledge of the 10 Dimensions, or they merely do not exist in the star streams.

 

Okay so what is this Oldest Dream guy's role in ORV plot-wise?

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Okay so what is this Oldest Dream guy's role in ORV plot-wise?

uhhh

u sure you want spoilers?

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1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

uhhh

u sure you want spoilers?

Umm.............................

How big of a spoiler?

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

5 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Umm.............................

How big of a spoiler?

The entire novel and its ending

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

I don't follow what's happening, but I finally break free from my imprisonment through a deal with a magical deity. As part of the deal I also gain Feruchemical powers. I spend some time storing up attributes, then tap steel and steal the Sandwich from wherever it is

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

I don't follow what's happening, but I finally break free from my imprisonment through a deal with a magical deity. As part of the deal I also gain Feruchemical powers. I spend some time storing up attributes, then tap steel and steal the Sandwich from wherever it is

you cant get there, its in the star stream, and in the hands of an omnipotent god faster than time itself.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

The entire novel and its ending

Alright then, how is it introduced?

2 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

I don't follow what's happening, but I finally break free from my imprisonment through a deal with a magical deity. As part of the deal I also gain Feruchemical powers. I spend some time storing up attributes, then tap steel and steal the Sandwich from wherever it is

When were you even imprisoned?

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

you cant get there, its in the star stream, and in the hands of an omnipotent god faster than time itself.

We'll see about that.