JustQuestin2004

Let me be the first to poke a hole in your theory here, with the very book you're referencing. The Sunlit Man Chapter 3: Bracers that can leech away body heat, sounds like a Brassmind forcibly storing heat. They're even described as 'Golden' and Brass is kind of gold-ish. Now you might say that they're a local invention, but Nomad himself guesses that much like the knowledge to make the Charred, the Cinder King gained these Bracers from the Timetellers. Who are Scadrians in the far future of the Cosmere who have likely studied the hell out of the Metallic Arts by now. I'd also like to point out that one can store into Medallions while sleeping, which is normally not possible with non-Bronze Feruchemists, as described by this WOB: Enough of an Identity to forcibly store the attribute of those that they are connected to? It'd be pretty useful on Scadrial to have some of these things, especially if they can store something like Investiture, letting you completely depower your opponents and, assuming it's possible to modify them after their use, perhaps let you tap into that power for your own use. With this key piece of evidence and the implications of the WOB, I have no choice but to disagree with you.

Maybe he just never trusted anyone enough to give them to anyone and thought it'd be better to use them as a macguffin to make people go through their own personal Indiana Jones plot? Or maybe, just a theory, he just lacks a potential key component in making them, like someone who has naturally possesses half of the powers necessary to make the Bands in the first place, who was working with Kelsier years before he went to help the Southerners, who studied the rust out of the Metallic Arts and wrote a whole book on Hemalurgy to make sure it wasn't forgotten, who was initially skeptical to working with Kelsier until he got goaded by the promise of immortality, who disappeared one hundred years after the Catacendre and we have no confirmation on whether he is alive or dead? Didn't Alik once say that it'd be a lot easier making something like the Bands if one already possessed all the powers? Funny that. (BTW please don't take my wording as insulting, it's not intended to be, I'm just having some fun) The Kandra did say that. I'd hate to be them though, imagine being born, finding out you're the one guy in the world who naturally has the powers necessary to revolutionize the local Magitech and will be expected to do so from the moment your people find out about your powers. Would make an interesting character, being expected to help change the world from the day you were born regardless of your own desires. I think Keeper is a better term personally. A lot of meaning and history behind that name. Yeah, that would be the easiest and most plausible way. Which is probably why that won't be the way it'll happen in the books. In fact, Harmony would likely do his best to keep Lerasium far away from a Full Feruchemist. Unless it was needed to save the world again. Whiiiich it might be... What can I say? It's accurate.

Difficult? Of course. That is, if one was using a method that required the Donor to be the one actively Blanking their Identity. There is a possibility that, much like how Harmonium can reduce the weight of Airships, storing the weight, then one might be able to create a Harmonium device that can forcibly strip someone of their Identity. Making the process of creating Unkeyed Spikes a cinch. I think that the Bands may be too external for that to work, otherwise the Malwish could just use Medallions to make more Medallions, but we know they can't because Marasi stated in TLM that even the process to create them requires Metalborn. I think that Nicrosil Feruchemy is limited to only what's an actual part of your soul, a Bond to a little machine that gives you powers, like the Bands, won't count. Kelsier confirmed in his epilogue in TLM that he hasn't yet found a way to use Allomancy, and Harmony confirmed that even Lerasium wouldn't work on him. So, chances are he can't use the Bands, but he can use Unsealed Metalminds since his memory was stored in the Copper Medallion given to Wax by Hoid? Makes no sense to me, but it does seem like the Bands and Medallions work differently since the Bands have a finite supply while the Medallions don't seem to have a limit to their use. Maybe because the Medallions were further developed over the course of centuries while the Bands were an original prototype that was never improved?

Lerasium is said to 'Steal all Abilities'. So there is precedent for a spike affecting multiple things at once. But there's enough ambiguity that it could either way. You could try to shoot for specific Bindpoints with incredible precision and accuracy. Or you could go with an automatic Spike gun loaded with Aluminum, then start spraying and praying. If you just intend to use Hemalurgy, and are hitting your target with enough bullets, then even an idiot would inevitably hit the right Bindpoint through sheer quantity.

I'm going to assume that the respective Shards of both worlds stay out of direct conflict and let their forces do the fighting for them. For the sake of fairness if nothing else. I think Roshar wins this hands down, because Roshar has a lot of people on it right now who are all on different sides. We've seen what can be accomplished by combining the ancient knowledge of the Fused with the modern practices and understanding of modern humans. And it's something to behold. Roshar also has a far greater total population than Scadrial, with dozens of different civilizations that in this hypothetical scenario would all be working together. Soldiers willing to fight, Artifabrians developing more kinds of Fabrials, Surgebinders both Radiant and Fused able to match and even exceed all but the most powerful Metalborn. Scadrial has its advantages, a technological gap advantage, but the Rosharans aren't idiots and will inevitably catch up. I think that Scadrials only hope is through the Trellium Bombs and mass-produced Bands of Mourning. And even then they still need a way to deal with the Fused and Spren of which they are far less familiar with then the Rosharans. Roshar also has a much more dangerous environment, which the Rosharans are used to but Scadrians won't be, so a Scadrian invasion would be hell, especially with just how huge Roshar is. That is more land than the North and South Combined. And the Scadrians would need to hold that land against the Rosharans taking it back. And as for a Rosharan invasion of Scadrial? It'd be difficult at first, since they'd need to figure out how to get passed the 'Connection' issue, but if everyone is working together, and not just a few small secret groups, I think that it is inevitable that they'd find a way around that limitation. In my honest opinion, the war is a draw until the Rosharans figure out how to get their stuff offworld and start invading Scadrial, on which the Scadrians lose pretty quickly.

All good, they both made me cry, and any book that makes me invested enough to cry is a good read.

Well, we already have the answer to half of this, Lerasium is now obtainable by splitting Harmonium with Trellium and some other thing that Wax did that no one else seems to have. So, we'll have Mistborn for sure. Now for the more complicated issue, Feruchemy. We still don't know how the original Full Feruchemists came into being like we do with the original Mistborn besides a (an annoyingly difficult to find) WOB stating that it was a 'gift from Preservation'. Maybe a Godmetal? Maybe a Godmetal Alloy of Lerasium and Atium? We don't know. The Ghostbloods would probably try to look into this, but I'm sure even Kelsier would be wary of giving someone permanent Fullborn powers after he was so easily killed by the last one. The powers in the Bands of Mourning can run out, but a natural Fullborn's won't. Very dangerous if he makes the wrong person one. The Set are gone, but Autonomy is still around. And to be honest, I doubt she'll look into this too hard herself for fear of it leaking and then all Scadrians attempting to become Fullborns, which would make her goal of destroying Scadrial that much harder when there's multiple Cosmere-equivalent of Kryptonians running around. And with the newly discovered restrictions on how many spikes a person can gain powers from, I don't think Hemalurgy will ever be enough to make a Fullborn, so anyone who wants to try would need a different way.

Pretty sure for now it's just helping worldhopping refugees. And then likely just scouting out the Cosmere for Harmony so he can keep up with current events. Though I hope that by the time Era 3 rolls around, she'll have been around the Cosmeric block. Maybe she'll even have gathered a few tricks from other worlds, that'd be pretty cool.

It seems rather reasonable that the only practical way that the Rosharans will learn of the other metals will be through Worldhoppers bringing their own to experiment with, then using Soulcasting to make more of them. Well, we do know that: Yumi Spoilers So yeah, we've only scratched the surface as to what's possible with Fabrials. Although perhaps some people will be inspired by recent events on Roshar, specifically: Wind and Truth Spoilers

I think that Time-Bubble Fabrials are definitely going to be a thing, but I don't think that Roshar will be the one's to invent them. They just lack the right abilities to experiment with them. Surgebinding doesn't grant any type of control over time itself, so I don't think the idea of that being possible would occur to Artifabrians for them to start trying to build them. Now I like your enthusiasm, but I feel it necessary to tell you that while the metals used in Fabrials do correspond with Allomancy, it is not absolute. Iron and Steel can create attractor and repelling Fabrials, Pewter makes augmenters that enhance a particular thing, but tin does the opposite, it does not enhance senses it reduces a particular thing like pain and heat. So, while cadmium and bendalloy, which are currently unknown to Roshar, could in theory be used like you say, there is no confirmation and I feel it is unlikely that all metals can be used to directly copy the effects of Allomancy.

Just checked the Arcanum, on the last State of the Sanderson he said that it's coming out "Fall 2025" but only for Crowdfunders for something I wish I knew about. But I think the full public release for it will be next year sometime.

I hope to see the seeds of the 'Cyberpunk' Era, probably with corporations getting their hands on the secret recipe for making Medallions and trying to pressure the Terris Village's Feruchemists into working for them or something along those lines. Showing how corporate greed will spread to even supernatural powers if given half a chance. Something I'm really hoping for is for all of the secrets that have been hidden to become public, like Kel still kicking around, Autonomy's existence and how Scadrial is technically undergoing an alien invasion, whatever is happening with Discord, and the reveal of the true nature of the Cosmere becoming common knowledge on one of the major worlds. I want to see how these secrets will literally change the world. If knowledge of Autonomy and the invasion were to become widespread, how would that affect the geopolitics? Would the North and South unite against this common foe? Or would they decide to war against each other for their respective resources to strengthen themselves against the threat? Would Worldhopper become celebrities? Or would Scadrian society become paranoid of the aliens among them and try to weed them out? How would the North and the South react to Kel? Would they find common ground in their worship of the same man? Would the Malwish feel betrayed that their Saviour is so close with the filthy maskless barbarians of the north? Would the Northerners feel betrayed that their Survivor has been fraternizing with the aggressively arrogant Southerners and never bothered to give the incredible knowledge of Unsealed Medallions to his own people? So much to look forward to, but above all I hope that secrets will be revealed. And my own personal theory is that this will be how Trell makes a comeback, not by hiding in the shadows like the Set, because that didn't work with their enemies persistently uncovering their secrets. But out in the open, exposing all kinds of secrets in order to cause as much chaos as possible. Maybe even finally popping the big one and making Hemalurgy public knowledge.

While the Ghostbloods do probably have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies, I doubt they'd do something as blatant as trying to puppet the government from the shadows, at least not so directly as what you're suggesting. And they definitely wouldn't offer up valuable secrets of the Cosmere to a bunch of government stooges, they'd just use money. And finally, that's more of the Set's thing and that didn't really work out too well for them in the end. My personal theory is that Kel is actually trying to spread his religions, both in the North as Survivorism and in the South as the Sovereign, in an attempt to cultivate a whole bunch of soft power from religion and belief, rather than trying to deal with the restrictive hard power of government. Probably as a way to control the Cold War Scadrial is now in so as to prevent an actual war from occurring, which would be very counterintuitive to the Ghostbloods goal of protecting Scadrial.

Greetings to my fellow forum divers, if I may have a moment of your time I'd like to run an idea for a story I'd like to write but will not be posting here by you all to help patch some holes in it and hopefully improve it. This isn't a story I'll be posting on the 17th Shard, when I finally write it out I'll be posting it proper on another forum site I frequent known as Spacebattles. But since I'm doing that, I feel more comfortable asking for feedback here rather than there. My story is an ISOT (Island lost In the Sea Of Time), it is a kind-of-sort-of sub-genre to Isekai where instead of a single person or group being sent to a different setting, an entire location and its inhabitants is sent to a new setting. Most I've seen are about sending a modern-day countries back in time, but for some are about sending a country from a fictional world into another fictional world. Like the entire kingdom of Hallownest from Hollow Knight into the world of Remnant from RWBY just as an example. My story is about taking the fictional city of Brockton Bay, from Wildbow's webserial known as Worm, and sending it to Roshar, specifically in southern Alethkar on the day that Kaladin arrives at the Shattered Plains. If you are unaware of Worm, then I will summarize up to the point where it is relevant to my story. Worm is a story of a teenage girl known as Taylor Hebert, who is a Parahuman who possesses the power to control bugs, attempting to be a superhero, only to fall in with a gang of superpowered thieves known as the Undersiders in a misguided attempt to spy on them for the heroes. There's much more to it, but if you want to learn more I'd recommend you give it a read, as for the purposes of my story the ISOT event will occur somewhat early in the story, during a bombing spree by an insane supervillain known as Bakuda. In my story, one of her more exotic bombs does its job a bit too well and teleports the entire city across the multiverse, along with some rather surprised Passengers being dragged along for the ride. Capitalization is very much intended. I don't need too much help with the plot surprisingly, as I already have a bunch of ideas (Like Taylor attracting some unwanted attention from several of Roshar's secret societies just by existing. Props to you if you can figure out who and why.) Rather, the main thing I'd like some feedback on is the logical consequences of the premise itself, the unexpected and instantenous transportation of an entire Earth based city onto Roshar. I do not fully or even mostly understand how a city functions and would greatly appreciate some help. Like how self-sufficient is an average city with power, water, food and anything else essential. Here is what is known about Brockton Bay, it is a coastal city formerly off the eastern seaboard of America, somewhere in Massachusetts and north of Boston. It is formerly a port city but its port was eventually shut down. Its total population is roughly 350,000. It was founded over an aquifer but to be honest I'm not sure how literally deep I want to take this. There are also several groups of Parahumans, some are heroes, most are villains. In terms of society in the city things will devolve into Parahuman feudalism very quickly. Also, my planned reactions of Rosharans towards Brocktons sudden arrival will be pretty simple in terms of generalities: The people who aren't in-the-know: "Oh my Stormfather, is this the lost city of Urithiru!?" The people who are in-the-know: "What the storming/rusting/colors hell is this city?!" So yeah, fun times all around. Let me know what you think.

Feruchemists won't need to worry as much, they just need to buy a single set of Metalminds and they're set for life. Allomancers need a constant supply, and some metals like gold and bendalloy are pretty pricey. Sliders would have a pretty easy time finding employment that would come with free bendalloy alongside a paycheck since they really are that useful, it's even in a broadsheet ad for a 'Qucik-Eats' restaurant. It depends on their powers, Augur's are going to have a hard time due to how useless their power is, but a Slider would have an easy time. Compounders is where it gets interesting, since they need to burn their metalminds to compound, which effectively doubles their costs. A certain Gold Compounder had to resort to crime in order to keep himself supplied with more gold. Though he also had other reasons for it.

Aluminum is a weird metal by default, it's able to block Investiture completely, yet it can be used for the Metallic Arts, it can be Burned Allomantically, it can be filled Feruchemically, and it can be used Hemalurgically. I honestly have nothing to say as evidence because there simply is no evidence yet until we see it in use. All I can point out is that it's description on the Hemalurgy table, unlike Chromium, doesn't say 'might' nor has a question mark, so in-universe it does what it says it does. Well, that balances that out. I guess it would be too easy. So, Shardplate would be an effective defense against Aluminum bullets.

Quick note, a WOB states that F-Steel can also affect the Burn speed of your metals like Duralumin. So, this means that if this 'Fugitive' burned Copper while storing, their Coppercloud will be weaker, but will also be stronger while tapping. Which means that if they aren't careful while storing, their Coppercloud will be weak enough that an average strength Seeker might be able to pierce through it.

Not how that works, the most crucial aspect in Hemalurgy is Intent. The person shooting Wax had no Intent. If I shot a Metalborn with an aluminum bullet but didn't intend on using Hemalurgy, it would just be a regular aluminum bullet. Hemalurgy doesn't just happen on its own, you need to know what you're doing, there is no evidence that aluminum is an exception. I've said this in other threads so I'll say it here. Automatic Aluminum guns in the hands of someone with the Intent to use hemalurgy will kill almost any Invested opponent in the Cosmere. Hitting the right Bindpoints won't be an issue if you're shooting enough bullets.

Uses for Division? Well, to take inspiration from the Tensors from the Reckoners series, one could use Division to carve tools out of one's surroundings. Like making a sword or club of stone by destroying the ground in a precise way. Not that this would be useful if one has a Shardblade, but it's one possible use. One could also use it in a more mundane way of cooking food and maybe even cleaning it off. Think of if a Division Surgebinder caught a fish, then used Division on all of the non-edible parts of the fish and instantly cooking the edible parts by frying it from within. Division might be used to instantly cook meats. One could also use it to make a temporary shelter, by using it to carve stone to make a small cave.

Not really how Shardic Intent works. Preservation doesn't Self-Preserve, Ruin doesn't Self-Destruct, Odium doesn't Self-Hate. Their Intents don't apply to themselves, not usually anyway.

Savantism has a cap for how much power you can get from it. That's one part to it, but mostly it was because he used the power of the Well to turn himself into a ridiculously powerful Mistborn, more powerful then even those who consumed Lerasium beads. Plus some unknown way of Reverse Compounding (Using Feruchemy to amplify Allomancy). There's been implications that he's gotten new spikes. For Awakening you just need to gather more and more Breath, endlessly. With the only limitation being how many Nalthians you can convince to give you their Breath.

Not in the slightest, though most likely well over a decade. They were around for years before Gavilar's death, and around to pressure the Davar's before Shallan killed her mom. But that's about all we know for sure.

The Compounding is just too good, and not just for endless amounts of speed, but also for the fact that F-Steel can modify Allomantic Burn Speed, tapping speed makes you burn metals faster, which results in effects similar to Duralumin, without needing to burn Duralumin. Other combos are fine, but most will never reach the sheer BS that is Steel Compounding, which only gets more BS the closer you look at it.

I'd prefer Pewter myself, making your body better in every way is just too good to pass up. Savantism will probably be inevitable for me but since I don't care to through myself into death matches, I really don't see that being an issue. Plus, pewter may burn fast but at least it's pretty cheap, so that balances out. Although Bendalloy would be a close second, more time in the day would be great, especially if I just want to take a break but don't have time for it. With enough Bendalloy I could stretch out ten minutes to well over an hour. Or in conversations by giving myself time to think of responses. Really the possibilities are endless. Personally, I really wouldn't want Steel or Iron by themselves, since they require a lot of practice and physic knowledge to make work without hurting or even killing yourself. And I'm not a big fan of heights either. And to be honest a lot of the Allomantic abilities by themselves in a day-to-day life are pretty meh, not bad but also not super life changing.

Pretty sure that just wearing aluminum would work best, since it won't take up a 'Power Slot', and can block more than just emotional Allomancy.