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Breaths, even when held by a person are Physical not Spiritual. the only exception is Divine Breath which are stuck directly to the Soul
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Dusk eating Herdazian food? Chouta?
Eternal Khol replied to Eternal Khol's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Ive thought for a while that maybe they were the Iriali because brandon said that their story would be continued in the space age. and to me, they seem the most likely to come up with those kind of rules- 9 replies
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Dusk eating Herdazian food? Chouta?
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Thats genius lol we need to get brandon to include this in the Silverlight novella if he ever gets around to it im so serious lol, we need to start a petition XD- 9 replies
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Dusk eating Herdazian food? Chouta?
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Oh god. I cant even imagine everyone all over the Cosmere eating Chouta XD i feel like its going to happen- 9 replies
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I just saw this really interesting WoB that Dusk has had Herdazian food before. how could he have eaten herdazian food? all i could think of is that some of The Ones Above are herdazian and brought some of their food to First of the Sun. or he hasn’t actually eaten the food yet. Brandon has a Sixth of the Dusk sequel planned where Dusk explores the Cognitive Realm and maybe he met some people there who had Herdazian food? what do you guys think? terminon I asked Brandon to include some interesting larger-Cosmere-related tidbit about Dusk. Brandon Sanderson Dusk has had Herdazian food + hates it. General Signed Books 2016 (Jan. 24, 2016)
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Why doesn't Odium destroy Braize?
Eternal Khol replied to Aspiring Writer's topic in Stormlight Archive
My guess is that Cultivation saw a Future that Honor didnt, and it involved his Death. theres a WoB that she did help Honor. and destroying Braize would cause him to expend Investiture in ways that Shards dont like doing. the WoB i included isnt about Odium or Braize but i think its relevant enough Ive know for a while this had to be the case(a waiting game. Seeing who expends the energy first to get the first strike), as in Oathbringer, its revealed that the only reason Odium hasn’t destroyed the Stormfather is because he’s afraid of a strike from Cultivation. if destroying a spren(a really powerful one admittedly) is enough to expose him, then imagine if he tried to destroy Braize. He would most definitely be extremely wounded or splintered ———————————————————————————— “I do not feel like men. I do not sicken like men. I am. The Stormfather rumbled. I could have been destroyed, though. Splintered into a thousand pieces. I live only because the enemy fears exposing himself to a strike from Cultivation.” ———————————————————————————— Zas So then why are they hesitant to directly fuel Allomancy? Brandon Sanderson Why are they hesitant to? What do you mean by directly fuel Allomancy? Zas You mention in the Hero of Ages Q&A that they can directly fuel Allomancy, like Vin does with Elend, but it requires expending their energy in a way they are hesitant to do. Brandon Sanderson Because it imbalances them more. Does that make sense? Like, if you are putting your energy here, rather than fighting the other force, you give them an edge somewhere else by trying to gain an edge here. And you have to make sure that's really worth it. Imagine a chess game. Is it worth sacrificing my pawn here to expose myself over here? Orem signing (Sept. 22, 2012)- 19 replies
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I'm reading and I'm at the point where Raeth uses his Night Aether to create armor for the first time, but he forgot to make joints, so he cant move. He then thinks to himself That "Having the power and knowing how to use it were two different things." Is it just me or is this very reminiscent of Rashek after Ascending and trying to fix, but ruining, Scadrial? I feel like there might of even been a line like that somewhere in the Mistborn trilogy, if anyone cares to expand.
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I loved it!!!! D’naa was my favorite character whos your so far? most of the characters range from dreadfully boring to extremely lacking and the plot was a little see through at times, but the Aethers themselves made the novel worth it, in my opinion.
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the Shards see the Future in Different ways. Which is why i think they actually have the ability to see Into the future instead of seeing constant black(Renarins name was blacked out when Odium showed taravangiam how far he sees) or atium shadows-like things If Ruin can see into the future in a way Preservation cant, then there shouldn’t be any(or at least, less)resistance by another from another Shard seeing the future too Questioner When Wax is talking to Harmony he mentions 'the radio' and other things. Are there already societies that have things like that and how is he getting that information. Is it like a Spiritual Realm.. Brandon Sanderson He knows things from his Ascension. He gain an innate knowledge of the universe in interesting ways. In addition, Preservation had some minor innate progno... he could see the future a little bit, and so could Ruin in a little different way. Let's just say that there are a bunch of things mixing together that give Harmony some knowledge that most people wouldn't have. Questioner But will we see some of societies soon or is that further in the future? Brandon Sanderson *RAFOes* You'll find out. Shadows of Self Portland signing (Oct. 10, 2015)
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Ive always thought that it was the Stormfather who told him that there should be 10 radiants at the Battle of Thaylen Field. though i wasn’t even Cosmere aware last time i read that part of Oathbringer, so im sure im missed lots of stuff
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im not saying that Rashek was the one true Preservation at the time. but he was Preservation On Brandons website he says “When he held it he became the Shard for a short time” the shard in question is Preservation. So replace “the shard” with “preservation” and there you have it. and Leras wasn’t technically alive, he was a mere Shadow and when i said he could do almost anything a full shard could. He can. His only constraint was very limited power. When Rashek Ascended, he was capable of outputting as much power as a regular Shard(he was capable of creating new species, moving the planet, remaking the continent. He could’ve even willed himself to another planet if he so wished) his only Drawback was that it was temporary(he had a cup of power compared to the ocean that is the Spiritual Realm)
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his Ascension was quite different from Rashek. when Rashek Ascended, he became for all intents and purposes, the Shard of Preservation.he could do almost anything a full Shard could. His only limitation was that his power supply was limited to the power that was in The Well of Ascension. Also His body would’ve vaporized like Vins did(even if only temporarily) Dalinar on the other hand, just seemed to have access to a lot of power. His body never evaporated(which, to me, means that he himself wasn’t actually holding that much power. He just made a conduit for the power) and he never seemed to get an overload of info like he would if he Ascended like any other weve seen. my guess is that because Honor is Splintered, he Ascended with just a few splinters
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Thats what i was thinking too It was either a brand on their soul or this we know Odium’s power is usually felt as a burning heat(like when he showed Dalinar his true power when they met in a vision) i assume its similar for the Singers. Having their soul ripped/burned away and replaced with Odiums power
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I like how Venli mentions Brands and then has a thought that she’s never seen a brand on the skin of a fused. I think the brand isn't on their skin. Its on their soul
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Ive thought for a little while that maybe that the Ones Above are the future Iriali
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Where?? Dont know if you saw this WoB Questioner Is the Iri religion based on knowledge of the [Shattering], anything like that? Brandon Sanderson Kind of, yes. Questioner But they don't know it? Brandon Sanderson They don't know it, yeah. I would say yes, there are echoes of it. There are more recent events that they don't even quite remember that are more influential. Oathbringer London signing (Nov. 28, 2017) For all we know they couldve been to planets we dont know yet. its not like they are limited to what we know interesting WoB Podman36 Did the Iriali have inhuman ancestry at some point in the past? Brandon Sanderson Depends on your definition of human. Most would say yes. Skyward release party (Nov. 6, 2018)
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So they killed him and an effect of that was his power dividing into 16 and locking Intents? Huh
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Oh yeah. im such an airhead sometimes. recombining all 16 doesn't fix the Shattering. but what if you did reverse the Shattering? Or at least what was done at the shattering?(investiture getting distributed equally across 16 separate Intents) First, There’s something important we need to question was Adonalsium Killed and then his power split and locked to Intents or was he killed as a result of his power being split and locked? Minor distinction but huge difference. im wondering whether undoing that would just undo some restrictions put in place on the Shards and make them into mini Ado’s or if Undoing the Shattering would bring Ado back somehow. even if it could be, i dont think it would be like the original Ado. Too much has been lost. and the use of a Vessel just feels wrong to me. @Invocation just posted about how maybe he mightve been something akin to a spren. And i was actually just getting there. ive had a hunch for a while that Ado was nothing more than Pure investiture that simply was. It was some time after the Cosmere big bang and not a whole lot else really existed yet. And one day.... booom!! It caught a personality That was horribly put and not really how i think it went, but i do think he was, at the very least, Investiture gained Sentiece i was thinking maybe Ado isn’t really dead, he’s just in a sort of Deadeyes state right now. And if the restrictions put in place, at the shattering, are removed and all Shards recombined without a Vessel, and left alone to gain Sentience. It would be the closest thing to Adonalsium since his “death”
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So the consensus is that the “New Ado” will be: A. Almost exactly like the old one or B. Almost nothing like the old one we’ve really narrowed it down XD what do you mean “something being lost”?
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Perception can do a lot. But can it do that much? id argue that what youre saying is like Odium claiming to be Passion. You can believe all you want(im referring to The Universal “you” here) but some things just can’t be done. also. Thanx for the tip. Killed me when I scrolled up and saw the title, “combing shards” XD now im sitting here, and just imagining someone combing The Almighty’s hair Lol
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But the very fundamentals of his/its power have been changed by locking his investiture to certain Intents.
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Theres been a lot of speculation as to what would happen if all 16 combined. the prevailing theory is that when all 16 are joined it will recreate Adonalsium. i dont think thats the case at all Lets get some facts down: - Ado was shattered -when he was shattered, the chunks of his power were locked to a certain Intent -its possible there could’ve been a different number of Shards/Intents when Shattered, each Shard got equal power(or 1/16th of Ado’s total) Now the theory: I believe that, when Ado was alive, he had more Intents and each Intent didnt have a set amount of power(meaning that at any given time, Honor could have more investiture than Autonomy. or vice versa) when Shattered, his power was divided and locked into those 16 Intents.Each getting 6.25% of his power. if someone recombines all those, they’ll have all the investiture recombined, but thats not all Ado was. This “new Ado” will still be more limited, in that certain percentages of his power are locked into certain states now. I.e rather than having a random number of Intents with any given percentage of power in that Intent.(Like the “old Ado”) you now have a being thats power is locked to only 16 Intents and has a defined amount of power set to each Intent(like the new Ado would) So when someone recombines all 16, theyll be like a “Fractional but Whole” God(fractional in that they only have part of Ado’s Intents/potential, but Whole, in that theyll have all of his Investiture) Questioner I was just wondering if a Shard's intent can change over time without changing holders? Brandon Sanderson Without changing holders? The holder can have a slight effect on how the-- a big effect on how the intent is interpreted, but what the intent is stays the same. So it's gonna be filtered. The way it manifests can change, and you'll see that happening, but it is the same intent. When it was broken off, it took a certain thing with it. Salt Lake City ComicCon 2017 (Sept. 21, 2017) Eric If Adonalsium Shattered with intent, would he always Shatter with the same Shards? Brandon Sanderson It is plausible that it could've gone a different way. Eric So it could've been different Shards? Brandon Sanderson Yes, that's plausible. Words of Radiance Chicago signing (March 22, 2014)
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Argent How do visions in the cosmere work? And I'm thinking Realmatically. Brandon Sanderson So almost always [it's] glimpsing into the Spiritual Realm. But you are often seeing it through the Cognitive, and so like a vision that... So like the vision that Dalinar sees. What's going on is-- being pulled, and kind of stretched a little bit through the Realms, into the Spiritual Realm. Where a Cognitive construct is adding a framework to seeds that are set in place. Argent So that you can kind of comprehend the Spiritual? Brandon Sanderson You can comprehend-- and also there's a little bit of a life to it. Meaning it can respond to you and things like this, to an extent. So imagine, it kind of works like an AI. Imagine there's some-- You've got that power in the Spiritual Realm and you're adding a framework to it, that it is shining through, and that is giving you the vision. Complicated, I know. Spiritual Realm is supposed to be weird, and we aren't supposed to quite comprehend it, but that's why we've got the Cognitive framework there. JordanCon 2018 (April 22, 2018)
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We saw an Oath in the Mistborn Series Preservation and Ruins deal to create Scadrial and eventually let Ruin Destroy it, was an Oath made between the two Shards Here's what Storm father says about Odium and Oaths "He is far greater than I, but the power of ancient Adonalsium permeates him. And controls him. Odium is a force like pressure, gravitation, or the movement of time. These things cannot break their own rules. Nor can he." -Stormfather Shadow Guardian You have mentioned that the Shards... they did not make an oath to have only one per planet, although the suggestion was made. Have any of the Shards made an oath that has bound themselves, expecting the others to follow suit? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Oaths have been made, that have been unwise oaths. You have even seen one of those - the oath between Ruin and Preservation. But that's not the only example of oaths being used in ways that bind the Shards in ways they weren't expecting. Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019)
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The Stormfather.
