SzethIsBadAsHell

Another ability Lift gained from the nightwatcher / Cultivation was the ability to touch wyndle. I’m not sure if this is the ability or a byproduct of another ability . I’ll explain . What if what she gained was the ability to partially exist in the Cognitive realm? This would explain how she physically touch Wyndle. And this would also explain how she entered the Stormfsthers Visions with Dalinar and the Aziz emperor. So theoretically she can touch all spren and not just Wyndle

My point is I don’t think Lifts curse boon is as simple as everyone thinks it is. I personally feel that she will always stay the sane mentally , she will have the mind of a 10 year old as her body continues to mature. As Calderis pointed out she just had a period. An event that commonly takes place around the age of 13. By the time of the Back 5 books she will be a woman In body but child in mind if my theory is correct. I also could be right that she was older when she first arrived at the Vally seeking the nightwatcher. Brandon has already said that Lift is one of the special characters that will be in both series. I guess we will have to RAFO and see if my theory has any merit.

So the common theory about Lift is that she is 13. She visited the Nightwatcher 3 years ago . Was granted a greater boon/curse like Dalinar , and Teravangion . It Seems that she is cursed to never grow up , or at least she believes ! But I have a hard time believing she is just 10. “The Stormfather rumbled in frustration. That woman! This is a creation specifically meant to defy my will! “Woman?” Dalinar asked, shaking his head. That child is tainted by the Nightwatcher.” Excerpt From Oathbringer Brandon Sanderson https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/oathbringer/id1198279804?mt=11 This material may be protected by copyright. The Stormfather first refers to her as that woman . When Dalinar remarked the Stormfather changed it to child. Brandon Too good an author to make reference like that for no reason . Also I have a hard time believing a 10 year old girl , would have the ability to search out the Nightwatcher . I suppose it’s possible but I mean really 10 years old , even if she was an urchin ! So I was thinking what if Lift was older When she went to see the nightwatcher? As part of her curse she was reduced to the age of ten and was told she would have that mentality forever? Everyone else that has sought the Nightwatcher was older and facing enormous problems , where they felt the only way was to go to the Nightwatcher as a last resort . What do you guys think ?

I could see a crossbow bolt with a scythe on it . It would have range , effectiveness and area effect . Still like Calderis said you might as well just use a chakram and Radiant plate , it would be faster , accurate and more deadly. It’s just hard not to want to incorporate guns and shards after reading Era 2 Mistborn .

That’s my own personal theory . Think about chasmfiends , greatshells , they both have gemhearts , and both have Spren following them. It’s a leap of logic .

Ok here is my take on it. BAM provide some sort of mass link to all Singers. It is very similar to a navel bond as the spritweb of the Singers was intertwined with BAM. So when she was imprisoned it ripped the connection away from the Singers and Trapped it with BAM. This locked them into slave form. The Listeners were not effected because the listeners were not connected to BAM. Had this been a normal desolation there would be no need for the Singers to link with BAM as Odium would have been present and supplying stormlight. Therefore, Dalinar can’t repeat this effect again , as the Singers are no longer linked to BAM like they were during the falsendesolation. This is very interesting, to me at least. I always wondered why imprisoning BAM trapped the Singers into slave form in the first place and why hadn’t the Radiants done this before.

I’m not privy to the WoB I was thinking along the lines of Syl being the Bow and wind spren being the arrows! A Chakram does sound deadly , and the mechanics of summon , throw , resummon is sound. I was mostly thinking about range you could possibly throw it. However , I did not consider if the Thrower was wearing Shardplate! In that instance it would be pretty freaking far . Jeez that would be a massacre.

We have seen shardbows , like the one Rock used to kill Amaram . This is nothing but a giant bow or perhaps even a Fabrial that requires massive strength to use it( like someone wearing shardplate.) However , this is not a true shardic weapon. I know they exist, Wyndle , Lift’s spren speaks of some spren that have turned themselves into Shardbow’s , although he doesn’t understand how they would string themselves . That got me to thinking what would be the mechanics behind it ? Could the spren produce ammo, and fire arrows that pierced armor and if it struck the spine or head of a victim Insta-kill the target? What if a world hopper from Scadrial came to Roshar and had a pistol . Could a Radiant copy that and command his spren to become a pistol ? Would the Radiant need bullets ? Or could the spren prosuce shardic ammo that does the same thing as a shard bow ? Fire shard. Bullets that pierce armor and don’t leave a mark on flesh . I really want to see a Shardbow at the very least , one that shoots shard arrows. In the Hands of someone like Teleb it would be devestating ! Imagine firing one arrow that goes thru 20 people killing or maiming every one that it touches. A wind runner with such a weapon would be a dangerous sniper from the air. Think about it he literally can’t miss if he lashes the arrow to your head. .how do you guys think the mechanics of a shard projectile weapon would work?

There was an ancient tome written in the Dawnchant . Later this was revealed to be written by the Singers. It spoke of God of Wind , Spren , and stone . This is my belief what the Singers refered to their Gods as. The God of Wind translates into Stormfather in human language . Just because their are wind spren , and storm spren , this has nothing to do with How they saw Stormfather., The Singers god of Spren , I believe is the being we know as the night watcher. The singers god of Stone I believe is the being we now refer to as the sibling. All three of these Mega-Spren were around before the arrival of the shards of Cultivation , and Honor. When these shards arrived they conscripted to mega spren to serve as Avatars , to lack a better term . When Eshonai went to transform into stormform a huge clue is revealed in the passage. “e winds—feeling them blast her, shake her. She felt the rain on her skin. The Rider of Storms was a traitor, yes—but you could not have a traitor who had not originally been a friend. These storms belonged to her people. The lis” Excerpt From Words of Radiance Brandon Sanderson https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/words-of-radiance/id717847678?mt=11 This material may be protected by copyright. Here is the quote from the Eila Stele: “We took them in, as commanded by the gods. What else could we do? They were a people forlorn, without a home. Our pity destroyed us. For their betrayal extended even to our gods: to spren, stone, and wind.” Excerpt From Oathbringer Brandon Sanderson https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/oathbringer/id1198279804?mt=11 This material may be protected by copyright. So in conclusion 1 we know the singers wrote the Eila Stele. 2. They described three Gods that men stole . 3. It’s not a hard leap to see they mean the Mega Spren. 4 mega-spren is my term for the Godspren. It seems more accurate. My apologies if my first post was confusing

According to Eli Steeli there were 3 mega spren Wind , Stone and Spren . It. Is my opinion these were the 3 singer gods before The shards came. When the shards. Came they adopted the mega spren. Cultivation took the Nightwatcher as an avatar (spren) Tanavast took stormfarther (wind) , and both invested into the sibling (stone) . This is what Eshonai meant when she said Stormfather betrayed them (the singers) . I believe it was at this time the singers turned to Odium. Many will think my theory wild , but it’s firmly what I believe.

In Way of Kings Szeth stealthily enters a building to assasinate a thief guild-master on behalf of his current master. When he arrived a man in a mask was there and had already dispatched his mark. He possessed Szeth Oathstone so Szeth Bowed to him. What I find intriguing is when the man left he waved his hand and turned the wall to mist and stepped thru . Szeth assumed it was Soulcaster. I’m not convinced . What is further intriguing to me is the knowledge the man had and the way he and his companions dispatched Szeth current master and beat him to his target. I’m wondering is this guy a worldhopper? His mask makes me think of southern scadrians for some reason . Also he got into that room way faster than Szeth . So let’s say his mask is just. a mask ; Could he perhaps be a elsecaller ? He only had one gem on a chain , there was no mention. Of a soulcaster on his hand! Also if he could elsecall that might explain how he got past all the guards and to the target . Elsecallers have no prohibition with killing or assasinating people . Jasnah does it all the time. We know Teravangion has at least one radiant in his employ , who is to say he doesn’t have another?

At the beginning of WoK the Alethi first encountered the Listeners, who they dubbed the parshendi . At this time the parshendi had no shardbearers. Jasnah confirmed this by her conversation with Dalinar in WoK . In WoR we find out after 6 years of battle Eshonai is the last Parshendi shard bearer.. so sometime after Gavilar death and the beginning of the Vengence Pact the Singers found a cache of shardblade . If you remember the Singers learned Alethi rapidly and the first question they asked was to see the Alethi maps. So did Ulim Who was around back then “ he was the voice that told Klade to buy Szeth. Tell the singers about a city where they could find shards? The most obvious answer is Urithiru . The Singers beat them ( alethi their long ago ) and took all the shards . Szeth could of took them thru the Oathgate. Maybe that is what he meant when he said he had seen this before when shallan activated the Oathgare. I assumed it was someone in Shinovar that went there but it could of been the singers guided by Ulim . What do you guys think ? Where did they get all those sets of shards??

Seems to me all the common life on Roshar has a shell . Singers, chasmfiends, axehounds, chulls, and here is the crazy part even plants have shells they can retract their vines into . It’s almost like everything was underwater at one time. I had no idea Ryshadium were non-native to Roshar. But since horse are not native as Calderis said they are not equipped to survive in this environment . They lick the shells of plants to trick the plants into thinking it’s rainfall so they can graze. They need need very good shoes to traverse the stone ground and outside of combat they have very few practical uses. Chulls are better suited to plow fields than a horse etc . Other than soldiers most men are scared of horses

While it’s true Odium chose Dalinar as his champion. In that case all Dalinar would have to do is appoint someone like another high prince and order him to kill Dalinar and he throw the fight on purpose . Since he represents Odium he wins by sacrificing his life. However I think because Odium left the battlefield those terms are not binding . Teravangian cautioned against Odium ever meeting him again . So I think by Dalinar refusing to give Odium his pain, he refused his request and he is not bound by agreement to represent Odium. Anyways for purposes of this speculation on this thread assume Dalinar is not Odiums champion. Odium has selected anybody powerful such as Nale or Moash. And Dalinar must fight them himself. What is a scenario in which Dalinar can’t loose!

Rashadiums have them as well . Any creature that has spren following it has a gemheart . I’m assuming the spren feed on the investiture leaking from them gemheart ! Perhaps it’s for another reason.

So because his grandfather is dead he cannot be disgraced by Szeth truthless status? Hmmmmm, so that means Szeth father is alive. So it’s not that he values his grandfather more he is just trying to protect his fathers reputation! Ok got it.

Regarding Szeth’s name. Szeth son son Vallano. I take it to mean that’s his grandfather . Szeth son naturo And that’s his father. Does everyone agree? I’m sure truth less is a status perhaps adopted as a name . I don’t know who Vallano is but he must of been great Szeth would rather associate himself with his grandfather , rather than his father!!! Does anybody know why he prefers his grandfathers name as opposed to his dad, if I’m interpreting this correctly ! Was his father also truthless.

That will be on epic battle , Reminds me of Luke vs Darth Vader on steroids. Or perhaps Rand al’Thor vs Damodred. It’s definantly one for the ages

I’m not too proficient in pairings of spikes. However let’s say Wayne is a Kandra from the Set. One spike is sufficient to give him his consciousness and bendalloy allomantic abilities. In order to become a bloodmaker he would need another spike. Wayne is a bloodmaker, his abilities are not a Kandra natural healing mimicking a bloodmaker, thus he was able to tap the metalmind Wax found. Two spikes would allow him to be controlled by Harmony . Other Kandra cannot detect Kandra thus Melaani could not find Paalm. But Harmony would certainly know and be alarmed a Kanfra is around working for another shard , watching his chosen representative Wax!

I’m sorry your experience with Szeth is boring. You can tell by my name I’m biased. For me Szeth instantly got me into SLA . He Is the most dangerous character in the book so far. At first you think of him as a tool of the primary Atagonist. Lines blur and I felt sorry for Szeth. From him falsely being declared truthless , to him being forced to kill so many people. On a reread I discovered Szeth has more foreshadowing involved with his character Arc than any other character. It was because of his flashbacks I was able to confirm the identity of the Stone Spren as the third sibling. I was able to realize the Shin shamans have activated an oath gate. And so much more. There is only one dissapointing thing in Szeth story arc. There was outrage at him coming to serve Dalinar. I expected Jasnah to want to take his head off, and considering how much Dalinar loved his brother I expected him to have an attitude similar to the female that Wayne pays restitution to in mistborn. You may. Serve me Szeth but I don’t wish to look st your. Stay out of my sight!! Szeth pays for all his sins. The voices hears will haunt him forever. And he is serving Dalinar as a form of restitution. I love Szeth , I know he will not survive into the back 5 books , he is too powerful. I suspect he will die facing the most powerful person on Odium side, it is for that reason he was given night blood. As scary as nightnlood is , can u imagine a creature it takes Nightblood to destroy . That’s even scarier.

Whoa , Hoid was around for the 1st desolation , yeah that is intriguing!

I think it was nothing major. It has been said all men have broken oaths before. It could be something minor as breaking a promise and the Stormfather will make a big deal out of it

The Lopen will become King of Herdaz. Now that he has a shardblade he is automatically 4th don by alethi caste system. I would like to see characters in the back 5 , go to Herdaz only to Run into King The Lopen lol. I’ll die laughing at that.

Another interesting fact is so many animals have shells. Axe hounds , rashadium, Singers in some form, chasm fiends, even those sky eels have shells. Am I correct In assuming everything with a shell has a gemheart

Ok you are correct in that the Fused were not in WoR. I somehow got confused. The chapter in WoR at the end where Graves and Moash were riding in the cart. I at first thought that was the scene in OB.where the Fused attacked Moash and Graves. How they appeared pre everstorm matters a lot. It will answer so many questions about the Fused and how they gained their forms of power. I agree with you that they were probably voluntearily gave up their bodies to their God’s. Just want to know why do they need the everstorm now. If they didn’t need it in the past?