Blacksmithki

Listen to the new interlude, I think I missed a good bit f it but I'm pretty sure the Spren manifested.

You could perhaps look at the divine attributes as being of Honour or Cultivation? i'm not sure, i haven't looked at them in a while.

Yah, that's almost exactly what i was trying to say, but said way better. Thanks @Naerin

@hoiditthroughthegrapevine You see, the issue is the distinct disconnect between your quote and your theory, the quote you reference is referring to spren being emotion VS nature, and you attempt to use that to prove that therefore the surges are emotion and nature without proving that there is a relation between those two points, you need to prove that because spren are emotion and nature, that surges are of emotion and nature, and i don't see that done anywhere in your post. As it stands, surges are effectively forces that are accessed through a combination of Honour and Cultivation as per the common understanding not 5 accessed from honour and 5 from cultivation.

Look up RAFOed questions and make one tangentially related to one of them.

Yah that feels more likely then me hearing "the spren of redemption" Edit: Huh, sorry about the double post, before i reloaded Mestiv's post was below mine

Oh god that spren is annoying, i really want to punch her. Also, "the spren of redemption?"

No, what i'm saying is that i'm pretty sure the generation of a vacuum is a side effect of the usage of Adhesion, or strengthening the power of vacuum to stop something from being pulled away from the location it is stuck to. Edit: wait sorry just re-read the above, just read the thing below What i am saying to this, is in essence that even if it was a vacuum around him (seems unlikely due to the apparent presence of air around him for the people behind him) that it would not collapse if he maintained the usage of adhesion to attract the air that would hit him to the air that was already going around him continuously, which it seems he is doing. so what he is doing is attracting parts of the storm around him to parts further around him continuously (or the other theory that he is doing something with investing the spren around him and we are seeing a precursor to shardplate).

@Yata Wait, was it confirmed the skybreakers abandoned? where? the wording you used implied that we had a WoB or something that it was the bondsmiths who stayed and we certainly did not have one as of a bit ago, this is the first i've heard of such a thing.

I think it was more along the lines of they already had those powers but Honor regulated it. (i'm pretty sure he said exactly "without Honor to regulate it")

I'm pretty sure it is Shadesmar,

Well, first, if he created a vacuum around himself, it would not certainly cause an implosion of the storm if he maintained the force, because the vacuum being a side effect of removing the storm from around him and using adhesion to draw it to the rest of the storm, the vacuum would pull on the storm, but not cause it to be drawn to him if there was a continuous force attracting to the other way, so it would work perfectly well with adhesion. Also, it's been theorised that eshonai will be a willshaper and ash will become a dustbringer due to the fact that each order gets a book and eshonai fits the description of the willshapers from the WoR epigraph almost word for word in the prologue of OB.

The wording of the quote that i have no idea how to copy "the burdens of nine become mine" implies that said nine burdens were not originally burdens of the bearer, so it could be Taln, the burdens of the other nine become his, IMO this leans towards Taln as opposed to Re-Shephir.

I'm not sure it has actually been confirmed anywhere that the spren the bondsmiths bond are different, or even if they are that they have different effects. There was a discussion on it a bit ago in the thread about the mural between what is assumed to be Honor and Cultivation.

It kinda depends on what you consider a spoiler, but there is nothing really other then part one spoilers IMO Most of what you might consider spoilers is saying stuff like "Insanely fast paced conclusion" (so like every book he writes?) or "character has a satisfying story arc" (no really? it's Brandon.)

From what we know so far, and how Brandon writes, one of the major theories are that some of the parshendi become voidbringers and some of the humans do as well, but it seems likely that they are not just underlings, though i can see how you got there.

@Fifth of Daybreak I would personally say that it might have something to do with the fact that all the orders seem to value something higher then anything else, and the skybreakers only care about the law. So let's say that the event was unnecessary and brutal (the thing with the parshmen) then i would assume most orders would care, but the skybreakers wouldn't. Probably actually caused by some event way out of left field, but hey, maybe we can get close.

Not just the skybreakers, others are fine with that idea as well (i believe the elsecallers?) read the page linked to above. thanks @Calderis i'm not sure how to link threads

I feel that is it very very important to clarify that the first oath is not always interpreted by a knight as kaladin and teft do. this means that you want to use the first oath as a part of a theory, you must keep in mind that multiple orders are fine with "the ends justify the means" philosophies. also, make sure to keep in mind that one order (probably but not 100% the skybreakers) never abandoned their oaths.

I assume as much, but with the choice of name and it being in the chest...

I thought we already did? wasn't that the purpose of our beer drinking polar bears riding on moose?

is a gem heart a part of a circulatory system or just a random organ?

Any chance it is sort of what they do? I don't have that chart, but edgedancers were sort of battlefield medics, windrunners and stonewards were the two entirely military orders, and lightweavers for moral. Could the other groups be knowledge and administration? That covers the three main issues I can see following a desolation and at the start of a new one. And besides, while we don't know much about the elsecallers, Jasnah at least is a scholar and the skybreakers fit amazingly into administration, and bondsmiths probably do to. to clarify: the first four filled crucial roles in armies, skybreakers and bondsmiths and unknown for administration, and elsecallers + two others for maintaining knowledge and research.

Hah, the perfect way to annoy all the shippers AND shock every single person who reads it. Also, never seen that one, looking it up now

Oh okay, sorry, misunderstood you. Besides, with allomancy being genetic I'm not sure how she would be, being from southern scadrial.