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Amaran is awful, but also lowkey pathetic. It's hard to give him the crown Moash is not a good person, but I don't know, I hate him but he feels much more a victim of circumstances and byproduct of society than anything else Sadeas is bad, but he looks so honesty in his evilness that almost looks almost comic Gavillar looks a perfect villain of a fiction series. Unlike the other 3 who are either coward, enduring or humorous this one hit me as straight fearsome. So far he's the only character in Stormlight that really spooky me But so far, the one who has the more loose morals and total lack of ethics are Sadeas and Amaran, I'll vote for Sadeas cause he's a son of a slontze

This guy had my exactly thoughts about Gavilar:

Something that is REALLY interesting in Navani prologue is this: Gavilar was kinda Gaslighting her for some time. To make her feel guilty and grew distant from him. This is because, unlike the other Kohlins, Navani seemed to never had worshipped him, nor followed him blindly. Even Jasnah was prone to stupidity close to her father, but not Navani, Navani saw him a great men, but only a men. So Gavilar never could use her as a puppet, which probably infuriates him and makes him to don't feel the need to "disguise" himself next to her Look at how she asked Navani to tell Jasnah something he didn't wanted to share himself, to keep Jasnah in good therms with him: There is no way for this man to be pretending to protect her. From this Navani's chapter it's clear he was doing this for a while. Now the next point, is his behaviour being affected by Odium influence? Totally, but I'm not buying it. For once Odium don't choose men by chance, Gavillar was obsessed with greatness and this was severely affecting his judgment, both moral and rational, which lead to his dreadful death after confronted Eshonai with the truths about what he was planning. If this was Odium influence, why would Odium wants to delay the return of the fused and voidspren that Gavilar was, apparently, plotting?

I'm sure we will know more about Aesudan and Gavilar during this book Gavilar's POV is the next and last in the prologue of his murderer 7 years ago. It's similar too how things were painted for Eshonai, we had some secrets about her and follow her events in Words of Radiance until the point we finally read what she saw, hear and did in the night in SA3 I'm guessing this is will be the same here

No too many tbh, most Spren still quite suspicious. For instance, I don't believe we are seeing another Elsecaller or anytime soon I'm rooting for a Stoneward and a Truthwatcher

So based on part 1 the POV characters are: - Kaladin - Shallan - Navani - Venli - Lirin As group 3 are POV only in parts 3 and 5, those are our current options based on the historically possible POV characters throughout the story so far: - Dalinar - Szeth - Jasnah - Adolin In my opinion, the chapters published today strongly support my prediction. Though I'm changing Jasnah as the character grouped alongside with Dalinar, I'll bet in Dalinar and Szeth as group 3 POV characters Group 2 main character are Shallan and someone (probably Adolin, as Renarin will wait until the 2nd SA arc) And Group 1 characters are Venli, Navani, Kaladin and yes I still believing in Rlain. Why? Because it's an arc focused in two things: - The Singers and Humanity aliance. - Discovery of fabrials as tools to make humanity stood a chance against Odium army Kaladin is the human who befriended the singers, and Navani is the queen mother of Roshar strongest human nation, however I still believe in Venli as the truly main character in this book, with Navani being the second most important character

Holy rust this prologue confirmed everything I always thought about Gavilar and never got a proof. Or at least what he become in the end of his life

I'm here to support a new Lightweaver character!! It's unfortunate two of the possible lightweavers died before the bond

This is an interesting ethic debate I would say most of spren doesn't have sapience and consciousness. There is a high change of animals, just like there is a high change of animals. Even a vegan wouldn't agree that all animals feel the same way and has the rights for integrity, there is a clear speciesism (generally derivated from cultural aspects) in the way humans treat animals For Spren I guess it's the same. "Higher" spren wouldn't be treated in the same way of lesser spren because of their awareness, their cognitive presence

Since this thread was created some things changed First I now I'm REALLY interested in Dustbringers and Truthwatchers Second I'm suspecting Elsecallers worlds are entirely personal, just like Lightweavers. Lightweavers moto is to find their own truth, while Elsecallers chase to be the best version of themselves. If this get confirmed I would say both would still my favorite orders Seems unfortunate that 4 of my 5 favorite orders are saved for the second half of Stormlight (Elsecallers, Truthwatchers, Edgdancers and Dustrbingers)

He really matches the description. I'll give you my upvote

I'm happy, really like Rysin, she's my favorite interlude character It's refreshing to see a story about a women who don't have her legs working anymore. It's a great opportunity to prove disabled people can also be incredible. Nice work Sanderson!

Finally someone to guide us

Adolin and Shallan

It is a Syl's interlude

Oh, you might be right. I was thinking the later half of the chapter (as we already have the first half) But maybe it's something new

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Seems like Dustbringers are the ones with the most terrifying powers

Yass It will be finished in two weeks at best. So excited!

Dalinar was decided to accept a surrender if Listeners wanted to In reality all highprinces were fighting for gemnstones at that point, they wanted wealth not vengeance and I doubt any of them would complain if listeners stopped to disturb their hunting If Listeners surrender and leave Narak they would pass unscathed, though I wonder how many Alethi were prone to slave them like they did with the parshmen. It was for sure the Shattared Pains would be attached to Alenkar and Listeners wouldn't ever be free again

I agree with you, but might add: - Ligthweavers were also supply providers Truthwatchers also physicians - I'm assuming Elsecallers were diplomats as well though I'm not aware about the extension of their physical transportation - Dustbringers were somewhat linked with Willshapers to work as sappers in constructions, roads, etc

Quality thread. I'm giving you an up-vote

I think it's very hard for people find their own concept of justice, that's why Skybreakers swore to follow something else Skybreakers aren't likely to follow their own loose concept of moral, they need time to mature and most of them will just never reach it I understand people must find this pretty stale, it is indeed, but seems a acceptable path for me. They don't trust and believe not even in themselves and progress to fourth ideal only when they find a better individual guidance

Her intentions were very evil, she did that because she felt like her lessons and wisdom had more value than the bandits life If it was self defense it would be alright

You sure you are an INFJ? INFJ aren't very likely to be Edgedancers or Windrunners. I agree with Bondsmiths though, I actually can see Ishar as an INFJ INFJ is the most uncommon and misunderstood type. Like, Dumbledore is a INFJ and people generally thought of him as wise and extremely benevolent, forgetting he was also a quite a manipulative machiavellian guy. What set INTJ and INFJ apart is basically how they use their reasoning, INTJ are more likely to use its great ideas in careful planning, self improvement and some goals they have in life. While INFJ are more likely to use its vast knowledge for a more humanistic subjects, such as help the people who lives around them (family, friends, etc). Thanks for their easy going and sympathetic (sympathetic, not empathetic) behaviour INFJ are seem as "cool guys" while INTJ are seeing as cold even though both shares so many traits. Taravangian in his average stage (neither a genius heartless monster, neither a emotional moron) is a typical INFJ. He's wise, diligent and selfless, generally pursuing something he believes to be a greater good for his own people (since he's a king, he sees all Kharbranth as his family), his people respect him for showing sympathy with people who are in lower positions like when he shares his surgeons to poor people. He also has a deep understanding of interpersonal relationships which they can be use in plans and schemes that's why he can manipulate everyone around him, Jasnah, Szeth, Dalinar, he tried even with Odium