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That was only the case for when Mists were Snapping people, I don't think it was said this was also happening naturally. But truthfully it makes sense for Snapping to invest people, otherwise unsnapped Mistborn would be as invested as Snapped Mistborn, which feels wrong. Spook's bloodline was strong in Allomancy for a reason - he was a Mistborn. First Mistborn created very strong Allomantic bloodlines because they were Lerasium Mistborn. The likelihood of becoming a Metalborn is increased for a Mistborn's bloodline for certain, the boost in power should also happen. Here is even WoB that confirms that certain mixing can increase the power of a Metalborn. I think that's a pretty reasonable assumption. If one Metalborn parent increases chances of Metalborn children, then two parents should increase it even more. And the proof you're looking for is right in the WoB above. The Allomantic genes were present across the entire population of Scadrial except for Terrismen. They have always kept themselves separate from other nations and thus from Allomancy as well. Terrismen were not being Snapped by Mists - only them. No, they were real. But after 1000 years of mixing, those changes became negligible. HoA ch 25 epigraphs:

I haven’t thought of that interpretation of this story before, but it seems to fit a little. However the fact that humans were the original Voidbringers was only one of several reasons that lead to Recreance. Earlier Radiants did know that as well, but Honor was always there to assure them their actions are just. Another big reason was fear of destroying Roshar with their Surgebinding powers, just like their ancestors did on Ashyn - this doesn't fit Hoid's story about Uvara.

Connection to Shards is hereditary, a Nalthian or Scadrial born outside of their planet will still have their native Shardic investiture in them, thus Connection to them and even Breath - though it might not last for many generations if they dilute their genes too much (WoB, WoB). I feel like Connection to land will also work like this. One of the hardest Invested Arts to gather is possibly Scadrian Metallic Arts, because you have to be born with those genes in you - if you don't want to use Hemalurgy. If you are willing to use Hemalurgy, then it doesn't matter where you are born. But Hemalurgy aside, becoming a Mistborn or a Feruchemist if you are not a Scadrian is incredibly hard. You have to use Lerasium to become a Mistborn (which was in a very limited amount during Era 1, now it's not available almost at all) and use some combination of Scadrian god metals to become a Feruchemist. So assuming getting god metals is impossible as for now, you either have to pass on those Invested Arts, be or be born with them. But there is one other group of Invested Arts highly dependent on your Connection - Selish one. To be an Elantrian you have to be born in Arelon, you have to have a strong Connection to the land itself. The same goes for every other magic on Sel. Those two types of Invested Arts are the hardest to get if you aren't native to the land, but once you have them, things get a bit easier. Starting as a Forger is a great way to gain access to many Invested Arts, if you know how to and have enough pure investiture. You can forge yourself to become a Mistborn, or an Elantrian, so if you don't need to have all powers all the time, this is a great substitute. AonDor can basically replicate everything any other Invested Art can do, it's the most versatile magic in Cosmere so being an Elantrian alone would be enough to do anything you want. But if you really want to play Pokemon with Invested Arts and catch them all, both Feruchemist and Elantrian are a great starting points as can manipulate their Connection and Identity and that might help acquiring other genetic magics from Sel or Scadrial, however it might require some non-standard workaround (WoB). You can also technically try stealing Band of Mourning and be a Fullborn as long as you have them, but that's not making you into actual Fullborn spiritually. Breaths can be bought and taken off Nalthis with little to no problem, once you have them, you are an Awakener. To become a knight Radiant you have to just convince a spren to bond you, a Connection manipulation might help (WoB). Sand Mastery from Taldain is a bit harder, we don't really know how to get them, it seems one have to be invited by the Master to become one yourself - so it might be possible to for an outsider to become a Sand Master by just getting a proper invitation - the same actually goes for becoming an Elantrian, as seen in Tress (thus starting as a Full Feruchemist is a better option as it's a little harder to become one than to become an Elantrian). To become an Aetherbound you probably need to find an Aether, be willing to serve them and be worthy of becoming their servant. Aviars are relatively easy to get, we've seen non-native people having those chickens, so they aren't really problematic to get for us. Ashyn magic is disease-based, you catch an illness, you gain powers. It might be limited through Connection, but it seems easier to get than others. Yolenish Lightweaving is probably out of your reach, we don't know anything about it except that Hoid has it. Yoki-Hijo seems to be hard to get as you have to be chosen by Spirits at birth, but maybe Connection manipulation can overcome that.

Yes, it is possible for a Fullborn to be born naturally, but that's highly unlikely. It's possible through breeding to select specific genes and strengthen the bloodline so more Metalborn will be made - Spook's bloodline is a bit stronger and that's the reason Vanishers targeted people related to Spook, the Set try to breed Allomancers with those people, Rashek did the opposite with Terrismen, trying to get rid of Feruchemy through selective breeding, modern Terris try to bring back a Full Feruchemist by trying to bring the purest Terrismen together. It’s possible for a full Mistborn or a full Feruchemist to be born out of this, in fact the plot of Era 3 might be centered around catching a full Mistborn criminal. But a Fullborn, while it’s possible to get naturally, it’s highly unlikely to be born because Allomantic genes interfere with Feruchemical genes, breaking them apart, which resulted in Ferrings and Twinborns. But it’s still possible to mix them together and get a Fullborn - that was what Rashek feared, that’s what Sazed fears. BoM ch 3:

I saw you've posted the same topic in the General Brandon Discussion subforum - that's unnecessary, please avoid double posting or reposting the same topic in a different section. You can edit your post to change or report it and ask mods to move it to another section if you wish. Both options are available if you open the three-dots menu in the top right corner of your post. Now back to the topic: Warbreaker. I simply adore Awakening. Its versatility and limitations are fascinating to me, the idea of magic based on recreating life and utilizing colors is amazing. It's always fun to imagine what can be done with Awakening. This magic system is not as combat oriented as others in Cosmere, but it can offer a great advantage for those with good imagination. This is my favorit magic system. And I love the story and all the characters - Vasher especially. For me it's the best book. I'm often catching myself rereading some parts of the book just when I wanted to grab a quote or check some detail. It grabbed my heart and doesn't let go of it. You’ve nailed it. While I personally like TLM, I felt something was off and that's a great description of its problems.

Sleepless are only one layer of protection. The question in the WoB is clear - if a person had an opportunity to spike a Dawnshard out, it wouldn't work because Dawnshard self-protects. Sleepless and Larkins would have denied that opportunity in the first place, but Dawnshard can protect itself even without them. Not just Rysn's Dawnshard, but any Dawnshard, and as far as we know only the Change Dawnshard is protected by Sleepless. TSM spoilers:

Well, there is a certain assassin in white who showed rulers that they can't rely on the protection of their guards and soldiers. Rysn on the other hand is now basically unkillable - Dawnshard self-protects - even if she doesn't have any usable powers from her Dawnshard. Sure, there might be ways to extract her Dawnshard, but that's not something people on Roshar would know. Dalinar is not the leader of the world, in fact most of Roshar follow Odium, not Dalinar. Only the Azish Empire and Thaylenah, plus all Alethi people that are on the Shattered Plains or in the Tower are now a part of the Coalition. Alethkar, Jah Keved, Herdaz and Iri with its conquered territories are now all part of Odium's side. Dalinar is constantly losing more land as the Desolation progresses. Not to mention that Dalinar is not an absolute leader of the Coalition - it's a coalition, all members decide on what is the next action they have to take, they all have to agree, Dalinar can't force them to act against their interest. His power is severely limited. But in terms of being powerful, Dalinar is certainly close to the top. Excluding Shards (and Splinters), Ishar is even more powerful. Taln has proven to be an exceptionally skilled fighter, even in his current state of mind he still was capable of acting and protecting Amaram from darts. I don't really have anything more to add, as @Trusk'our listed all, except for Szeth. He's extremely skilled fighter, not as good as Taln or Kaladin, but still very good, he is highly knowledgeable about all Surges, their applications and how to counteract them, on top of that he has Nightblood - the only object known to us that can easily kill Hoid, the only man-made object capable of killing a full Vessel. Szeth is very dangerous, especially in combination with his mental instability. He deserves to be on the list.

That's 100% a Seon. They can show a face so why not an entire body and a cloak? It's just a type of Lightweaving. He didn't look normal at all - he was blue: A glowing sphere with a rune at the center - that's Seon. RoW ch 115:

That means that after they finished fighting, Kaladin looked at cut and used sheets and saw them moving and shifting a bit. He thought that other people can dismiss that movement as the wind, but he knows the wind, he knows it's not it. It was the cut sheets themselves that were moving, not the wind. Agreed. He recovers them after all. He knows he's not at risk of losing any significant amount of Breaths, otherwise he would have not fought Kaladin with Awakening. The key-word here is "trying." Sure they try, but they can't as the material is so damaged that it can't function as per its Command anymore. The more out of shape the material is, the more damaged it is, the worse it functions. A rope cut in half will still try to fulfill its Command quite well, but Awakened clothes won't work anymore if cut in half as the entire shape of it is broken. They might try, but they won't work well. The same thing happened in Warbreaker ch 56: But that's what the healing does, it fixes your soul, it reconnects cut off pieces with your soul. It creates a patch on your soul out of investiture. That may have some consequences, but in normal cases it's negligible. With healing flesh wounds it's even more obvious - investiture is used to recreate your body, even an entire arm can grow back. It doesn't matter what's lost, healing can restore that.

No news for now, but Brandon will be visiting Hollywood in following weeks, he said it in the last weekly update. Maybe something new will come from this. However Brandon keeps repeating that Hollywood is hard to work with, it takes time to do anything. However the Mistborn movie is/was in the early stages of development, but it all stagnated as the writers strike started in previous year. If I remember correctly it got to the point where Brandon was seeing some casting, or some early scripts reading, or something like that. Brandon has a full insight into the development process and is in the position to be making demands and decisions - he wanted to have greater control over his movies for obvious reasons and he succeeded in that. Here are two WoBs from the State of Sanderson 2022&2023. I'm pretty sure he talked about it in one of the recent streams as well - this is an often asked question so it repeats every few streams.

Of course it depends on how much it is invested. An Awakened cloth is still a non-living object, even if it's invested, it would primarily act like a dead piece of rock (which also has a soul and is cut by a Shardblade). So a cloth Awakened with only 1 Breath would not resist a Shardblade and would be cut into 2 pieces, with its Breath being cut into 2 recoverable halves. But I think some tiny bit of investiture would be lost as well, because of the way in which a Shardblade cuts non-living objects - it vaporizes some matter into investiture to allow a blade to pass through. A piece of Breath attached to that vaporizes part of matter would be lost, as that loss is how the Breath is cut into two parts. Something even more invested can resist it or even block it like a Shardplate/Half-Shard, taking a few hits before it breaks. We saw Kaladin cut Vasher's Awakened sheets, they are cut and they still try to move after being cut. RoW ch 15: Lifeless would act like a living being, a Shardblade would cut its Breath, not the body - 2nd WoB. The difference probably is that Lifeless is almost alive compared to a type 3 entity like Awakened ropes. They are more self-aware than people think. Actually they are both invested with more investiture from spikes, so they would resist Shardblade a tiny bit more than a normal person. I think broken spiritweb wouldn't matter for a Shardblade - spikes held it together. A broken soul with no spikes might be a tiny bit easier to cut - if investiture is lost when cracks appear. But at those levels there would be no difference.

The answer is simple. Firstly there would be no number 16 in Mistsnapping, no sign that something weird is happening. Secondly it wouldn't have been an obvious sign that says "you can burn Atium now, that's what you need to do" as Mistborn can burn anything. Thirdly it would take much more power to make someone into a Mistborn than into a Misting. Mistborn are much more invested and those Mistings snapped by Mists were very weak, weaker than normal Mistings as many of them had barely any Allomantic potential in them. And it wouldn't have been beneficial at all - you can't win against Ruin by killing, you just have to burn Atium, Mistborn weren't needed. WoB: Interesting theory, it might be possible, but kind of hard to write down the entire prophecy as you die. But you're right, the barriers between realms fade when people die and it's easier to reach into SR at this moment. Here is only a quote from a WoB with spoilers cut out: "Special things often happen in the cosmere when someone is very close to death, or undergoing intense pain (either physical or emotional.) Barriers between the realms weaken." Love reading your reaction and thoughts about SH, can't wait for more!

Quite a lot I would say. A banner can lift a person, a cloak can stop blades, a shirt can hold and fight with a sword, tassels can hold almost the entire weight of a person by themselves, ropes throwing boulders like catapults, Sousebron's fabrics throwing bodies around like they were nothing. Vivenna's rope was suffocating Tonk Fah and no amount of strength was going to stop that - Denth had to cut it. Breaths act as muscles in an Awakened object, but the material from which it's made gives the limit of how strong it can get. Ropes by design are very strong, capable of lifting incredible mass, but a shawl or a banner twisted and curled into the shape of a rope can hold a surprising amount of weight - regular fabric can be strong. An Awakened material can exert so much force as it can withstand without it ripping itself to pieces. This does depend on visualization and Command, but not on the amount of Breaths per the Law of Comparability - the amount of Breaths needed for Awakening doesn't define how powerful the object is. But if you visualize a cloth catching people while spreaded wide open like a net, it would be easier to tear and get rid of than a cloth which you visualized to twist like a rope first then catch. A rope bend a tree branch (so strong it cracked wood), a cloth carried a water cup, a rope choke out Tonk Fah. ch 46: ch 49: ch 56:

I don't think Gereh had any Shards. He had Metalminds which were taken from him - his rings - and the chest wound sounds awfully like Hemalurgy. And since we know spiking any Feruchemical powers carries enough identity for the Hemalurgist to be able to use metalminds of the donor, it means his power was stolen (because why did Mraize steal the rings if he can't use them). We have no indication that he owned any Shards, he was an old man and barely appeared on pages - only during Navani's prologue in RoW as far as I remember. He does, but Felt, unlike Gereh, doesn't care if he stands out. OB ch 114:

I think yes and I think we've seen this happening in RoW I-5: That was Gereh, a Feruchemist:

It's not a 1 Breath skeleton, it's 50-100 Breaths. Warbreaker ch 46:

Brandon called it SP0 so Isles of the Emberdark being SP5 is fine. WoB for you, check out the link at the bottom of the WoB if you want to see some early images from the book. Long Chills & Case Dough is a part of Sanderson Curiosities, it's a Prime version of an unpublished book he wrote before he started his career. It was a surprise but not a Secret Project.

The simplest answer is that Shallan had a Shardblade before the third Ideal because that was always Testament, not Pattern. It looks like all instances of Shallan summoning a Shardblade in WoK and WoR were with Testament. When she killed Tyn, Pattern was busy calling her men, so she had to use Testament as a blade. When fighting against a Chasmfiend, Pattern had a moving illusion attached to him that was also talking (she was on the other side of the chasm, illusions had to move there and by this time she could have done this only by attaching it to Pattern, the same with is with talking) so Kaladin had to have Testament as a blade. Everytime Shallan summoned a Shardblade in WoR she manifested Testament. Speaking more powerful Truths won't unlock higher Ideal powers as those come from the Nahel Bond itself. The higher Ideal you are, the stronger the bond is, the more powers you get. You get a Shardblade because your bond with a spren is strong enough to allow them to manifest in PR. You get a Shardplate because your bond is even stronger and you can manifest Lesser Spren as a plate, as they are Connected to your True Spren and to you. You can't really skip that progression because if your bond is strong enough to manifest a Shardplate it has to be strong enough to manifest a Shardblade. Soulcasting isn't locked by progression for Lightweavers (only the Surge of Division is locked among all orders of Radiants, Skybreakers unlock it at the 3rd Ideal, possibly Dustbringers too, but no other order has a Surge locked like this), Shallan had big troubles with mastering this Surge, her Ligthweavers are better at it than she is, but she still can do it, and as Formless she could do it really well - this is something that her mind prevented her from mastering (or Jasnah's teaching methods), not Truths. But the order at which you say Truths shouldn't matter - If Shallan was ready, she could have said "I killed my mother" as the 2nd Truth and it would work just the same as "I killed my father" - it's all about readiness, you decide what's harder for you to accept. RoW ch 21: RoW ch 93:

You do understand the word "specialization," do you? Warform is a specialized form for fighting, it's much better at fighting than Workform or Nimbleform, as seen in RoW Eshonai's flashbacks. Rlain learned to fight with a spear in WoR off pages, but being a Dullform didn't prevent him from fighting, even if he never had to fight, he still performed guard duties. They would not allow him to guard Kholins if he was unable to fight at all, the risk of assassination was too big to put someone totally unable to fight next to Dalinar. This proves that a Dullform is capable of fighting, even if it isn't that good at it, it's at least capable enough to become a guard. Therefore just as a Dullform is capable of fighting to some extent, many forms other than Mateform/Slaveform are capable of reproduction, even if they aren't that good at it. I'm not using anything out of context, Brandon literally said what I'm quoting times and times again, which you refuse to accept. Read the WoB again. WoR ch 47: WoR ch 50: I do not understand you. Malen Warforms have beards. Yes, I agree. Malen/Femalen is asexual, they don't feel any sexual attraction. But I've already given you examples of why a Malen/Femalen form would want to engage in those forms rather than in Mateform. That's the last response from me. I'm repeating myself as there is nothing more to add as the WoB I've provided is definite.

Yes, at least one reason is that Honor isn't that good at looking at the future, he admitted it himself, WoK ch 75: But I think you're right. Honor wasn't that honorable as his name suggests. He doomed Roshar on purpose, to protect Cosmere from Odium, deceived humanity to fight a war that was already lost and he tried to keep it secret from them. All of this was done to keep Odium in Rosher, no matter the cost, even if he really cared about people.

I was going to agree with you, but I looked at some WoBs and AU and I have to say you're wrong. Yes, perpendicularities happen naturally on worlds with no Shard. But this isn't something common. Usually perpendicularities are a sign of a Shardic presence. That's why the First of the Sun is unique as there is no Shard there, but a perpendicularity still appeared. Arcanum Unbounded the Drominad system essay: Yes, Patji is an Avatar of Autonomy, but Autonomy didn't invest in the First of the Sun, she used investiture present there from before the Shattering. A world without any Shard has enough investiture on it to form a perpendicularity, but something needs to be done with it first. Yolen also has a perpendicularity. Threnody doesn't but the way to access it is specifically related to Ambition being Splintered nearby. Even though there is a perpendicularity on the First of the Sun, there is no trade happening between realms because of how dangerous Patji is. Not every place in Cosmere has to be connected via trade routes. Silverlight is the main hub in Shadesmar, there are probably other places in CR like that, even on planets without a perpendicularity. But trade seems to be mostly limited to major Shardworlds. What I mean by this is that trade in Shadesmar doesn't have to go from one planet to another, it can go from one location in CR to another in CR, some of those are on a planet - but Silverlight is a prime example that PR isn't needed for trade in Shadesmar. There are locations in Emberdark of interest, some of those can be connected via trade too and as technology advances, more of those locations would be connected via spaceships, locations that are inaccessible from PR. Most humans originated from Yolen, they've traveled across Cosmere to settle on different planets. So your way of thinking is correct - there had to be perpendicularities there to allow them to enter the PR of those planets. But people can travel between planets without perpendicularities - they can make their own. That's how Ashynites migrated to Roshar, they've created their own perpendicularity. A large concentration of investiture will pierce three realms, creating a gateway. SA5 reading spoilers: TSM spoilers: Some WoBs:

Yes, that's even better idea. Or he specifically made them non-sapient, thus less invested to avoid investing too much on Roshar as he didn't want to get trapped on it.

No, it will never end. We will have topics like "did Moash deserve all this hate" or "death was too merciful for Moash." He will always engage our emotions and hate him or love him, that's a sign of a storming well-written character. That's why he deserves to be talked about.

A better idea - buttons. They are already using buttons, but this time make them covered in an aluminum layer in front, while their back is a normal metal. Because the metal back is from your side you can push them, while from the front they would be undetectable to steelsight because of the aluminum layer. A gun that relies only on steelpushes won't have much power, so instead of having a tool that you have to aim, thus alarming all your opponents that you're gonna shoot, just position yourself to face your enemy and push buttons - they won't see it coming, they won't see them with steelsight, they might not ever see them coming at night or in Mists. Silent and invisible weapon - but can be only used against non-armored opponents as it won't have much penetration - bullets are faster than a steelpush, a real gun is still a must have. The problem with Copperclouds is that you can't use A-bronze while burning copper, as it silences all pulses coming from the outside. Therefore an aluminum hat is still useful - you can burn bronze to hear what's going on around you, while being protected from emotional Allomancy. If you're skilled enough you can listen to emotional pulses a Soother or a Rioter sends and detect which emotion they are trying to influence, thus gain knowledge and act accordingly. TFE ch 21: @Longshot97 has already mentioned this, but because I write a response first then read the next post, I wrote the same thing. But hey, I provided a quote! Springs you said? How about an Allomantic gun that uses a spring instead of gunpowder, like @JustQuestin2004 wanted earlier? Instead of pushing on a bullet itself, you pull spring to lock it and give it energy, then release a trigger and the spring pushes a bullet out while you push on it as well to give it more energy. It's not perfect, it would be better than normal steelpush, but you would need a larger spring, thus it would make noise.

Aetherbounds can no longer survive but their Aether can - Silajana is from Dhatri. Aditil is no longer an Aetherbound so she should be fine. What this inhospitality means and how it affects both an Aetherbound and their Aether is another question. Could Aditil expose her Aether to a deadly strike by bonding them? They are the same Aethers as they have the same sets of elements, but they are separate beings, different. Aethers don't have a hive mind. So yes, the roseite crystal is the same, but it came from two separate entities. Lumar's roseite Aether is a different entity from the Dhatri's roseite Aether, but they both are a roseite Aether - that's how I view it. "at least on the core aether world" which means Aethers on other worlds are separate entities from the one on Dhatri. I agree. No it can't be - CR is location dependent, distance matters there. It would take years for Silajana to answer Prasanva from another planet. They can communicate instantly, that means it goes through SR. Plus Lumar's Aethers transfer water from the planet to themselves via Luhal Bond, which is spiritual. A Shard is a combination of both the mind and the power. The mind can be killed - the Vessel - and the power ripped to pieces - the Splintering - but the power can't be destroyed. The same applies to all things to be fair. A soul and a spiritweb are two different things. A spiritweb is measurable, existing in SR, a soul is something unknown, unmeasurable, which passes to the Beyond, which is also unknown. We don't know and won't know if souls or the Beyond exist in Cosmere. But the spiritweb stays in SR even after death. You can revive a body, so I'm quite sure you can revive a dead spiritweb too. So yes, Teft's spiritweb is still there in SR and it's not just energy. Both terms are used interchangeably and in this case this is wrong, because a spiritweb doesn't go to the Beyond. Ok, I think we have a different view of what an Aether is. For me an Aether is both an entity and an essence - which is the body of that entity. When Prasanva grows an Aether, he actually grows the body of Silajana - Silajana can sense things through that body. In my understanding an Aetherbound can't have a dead symbiote without the core Aether-entity being dead. It may be possible for an Aetherbound to break the bond and that might kill the body of their core-Aether, without killing the entity, but I wouldn't call that their "symbiote is dead" as the entity is still alive. So I view this statement from the reading as the core Aether, the actual entity is dead, which resulted in broken Aether-essence on Aditil's body. TLM ch 44: But Honor doesn't give them power directly, does he? Aethers do that, the entity is more important then raw power in their case. A Shardic magic system isn't directly created by Shards, it's a natural manifestation of their power in the physical realm. Aethers form a symbiotic bond, they grant power directly to their Aetherbound - without them, the power can't be given. In my opinion those two things aren't comparable. Like Aditil can't connect to her Aether because they're dead, but Rosharans can't connect to Honor as well because he's dead - they connect to the Stormfather instead who was set up as Honor's replacement and Honor's CR, he accepts Radiants Ideals now. Cultivation still is the one that accepts Ideals from her half of Orders - Willshapers for example. Radiants can't have power without being connected to a living entity - a spren, just like Aetherbound can't have powers without being connected to a living entity - an Aether. So no, I don't agree that the entire magic system is gone after Aditil's Aether died - Aetherbounding still exists after all, you just can't connect to that Aether because you need a conscious agreement. Luhel Bond isn't gone. But just like Nahel Bond is broken once one side of agreement dies, Luhal Bond is broken when an Aether dies - but the magic system is not gone. Comparing an entire magic system of Surgebinding to an individual Aetherbound isn't valid. Shards are powers with a mind, Aethers are just beings, they aren't like Shards. They are independent from Adonalsium thus those rules don't apply to them. Oh, I just remembered this WoB, Aethers are a physical manifestation of investiture, the essence is a kind of god metal. It's investiture in a physical form (duh, it reacts to base metals):