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I don't agree as this simply doesn't fit the context, nor does it make any sense. Starling asks if Hoid's wife could help him, Hoid then talks about his wife and asks Starling to tell "either of the twins" of his situation, so they could help him. There is no change in subject in this paragraph, he is still talking about his wife, there never was any mention about potential children of Hoid so we can’t say if Hoid even had any with his wife. IotE ch 51:

It's not Jasnah because his wife is a twin. IotE ch 51:

The thing that bound spren to Roshar was the pact made between Shards that bound them to the system. When Dalinar as Honor broke all Oaths, the pact was also broken and this allowed spren to leave.

Yes, claiming and being isn't the same and there is a lot of uncertainty about it, but the WoB confirms that both Aethers and Dawnshards weren't associated to Shards after the Shattering. Dragons might be the same for the same reason. And even if all three were created by Adonalsium, there might be something special about them that made them independent from Adonalsium and prevented their investiture from being associated with Shards.

Not all investiture originated from Adonalsium. Aethers and Dawnshards are independent, Aethers are even claiming that they predate Adonalsium. TLM ch 42: From IotE I got an impression that dragons were created by Adonalsium and it would mean they were affected by the Shattering. They might be equally invested by every Shard and they might draw investiture from every Shard directly from the Spiritual Realm. I don't think them drawing investiture directly from SR means they can't be associated with Shards. Shardic investiture is everywhere and it permeates Cosmere whether Shards want it or not. Or dragons are like Aethers and rules don't apply to them for whatever reason.

IotE Epilogue:

Or she just gave up some of her possessions. Patji is alive and well and Patji is Autonomy's Avatar. An Avatar is a semi-autonomous part of the Shard so I doubt it would be left undisturbed during Splintering of its Shard.

Yes, super magnets would be an annoying weapon to Scadrians in the future - as long as you can power it and get it close to your target. As for MRI, Feruchemist can use it with no problems, if they leave their metalminds outside the room. A Hemalurgist however can't do it as it would rip spikes out of their body, potentially killing them.

Just a little heads up, this is Mistborn only forum so any information related to other series should be put in a spoiler box. This topic is better fitted to the Cosmere Discussion section. I'll ask mods to move it. As for your question, we don't know. Nicrosil is said to store investiture, but there are 3 types of investiture - static, kinetic and innate. Static investiture is investiture stored in metalminds or held in gemstones - it does nothing at the moment. Kinetic investiture is the one that does some job, like a Mistborn burning metals to steelpush is using kinetic investiture or a Radiant Surgebinding is also using it. Innate investiture is investiture that is a part of your soul - Preservation's fragment or Breaths are Innate investiture. So far we've seen F-nicrosil being able to store only innate investiture (Feruchemy or Allomancy is innate investiture) and while WoBs confirm other innate investiture that could be stored, they RAFO things like Stormlight which is static investiture. I strongly suspect only Innate investiture can be stored in F-nicrosil, which would mean you can't use it to store Stormlight in it. We don't know if they are Skybreakers, but it's the most likley possibility. WoB on this matter: WaT spoilers: They don't have to glow. Kaladin at first used very little Stormlight specifically to avoid glowing. Those Skybreakers might have used little amounts of pure Dor to avoid glowing, just like Kaladin did in WoK/WoR. There is also a possibility that there is a Lightweaver with them, who made illusions for them to suppress their glow.

Lashings don't protect against friction or air resistance. Yes, you can kill somebody this way. Moreover, Lashing causes G-forces, but realistically they shouldn't do it, so you can kill someone just by G-forces alone. But this will burn your Stormlight very, very fast and if you're fighting Radiant or a Fused, their healing will aid them resisting G-forces and friction so it's really not an efficient way of killing somebody (too much healing and it will drain your entire investiture so you can't rely on it too much). Plus, the more invested someone is, the more they will resist being Lashed with Stormlight and that leaves this tactic to be only applicable against non-invested people - but for those just Lash them up once, let them fall down and the ground will do its job. No. WoK prologue:

It's just condensation associated with state change. Swearing a new Ideal draws a lot of investiture directly from the Spiritual Realm, so you would have pure spiritual investiture manifesting physically as a gas, which would cause condensation. This is not restricted to just Windrunners and therefore it's not Adhesion, as Szeth swearing 3rd Oath did cause snow to appear around him, although he didn't draw in any Stormlight so this effect is not fully understood yet. OB ch 121: Yes. It's possible although I don't remember if other blades were described in a similar way. Mistborn spoilers:

There are 2 WoBs on that, but Lashings and Feruchemical iron are two separate, yet slightly connected effects. Lashing changes the gravitational acceleration, F-iron changes just mass. For acceleration to produce a force, you need mass, but because you can't store 100% of your mass with F-iron, you will always feel the same acceleration, no matter your mass. The only thing that will change is the amount of investiture needed to produce this acceleration, as with higher mass you will need more investiture (because more energy is required to move that mass). But as Treamayne said, Fused passive effect allows them to Lash themselves without consuming investiture, so F-iron wouldn't change a lot for them. It could only increase their maneuverability and help them turn or decelerate faster, it would also work with conservation of momentum like it works for Wax - decreasing your mass while moving would increase your speed and vice versa. But it would have no effect on their acceleration and investiture consumption rate. For a Radiant though, I suspect the effect would be based on intent. What I mean by this is that if they Lash themselves up with 1 g and then double their weight, the energy has to be conserved, so only two possibilities are viable. Either their Lashing would decrease to that of 0.5 g, but the consumption of Stormlight doesn't change (twice the mass requires twice the energy to lift), or your intent is to have a 1 g Lashing up and you would double the amount of Stormlight consumed to maintain that 1 g Lashing. But you can't increase your mass and maintain the same acceleration without consuming more Stormlight because the energy needed to accelerate this newly gained mass has to come from somewhere.

I have a feeling that her father might have been killed by the Evil, as there were three dragons killed by them and she personally knew one of them. Adding this to the fact that her parents are missing and aren't present on the ancestral shores, there is a possibility that her father fell to the Evil, which would annihilate his soul. IotE ch 26: Her mother is missing but from the quote above we can say she almost certainly wasn't killed by the Evil and because she isn't on the ancestral shores, it means she's most likely still alive. If she is Frost's sister, then maybe Frost is looking for her and that's why he is missing as well.

IotE ch 27: The book confirms that Threnody was eventually destroyed by the Evil. Earlier, in TSM it was hinted at this when discussing Threnodies who left Threnody escaping from the Evil, some of those Threnodies later settled on Canticle. However, TSM left the timing of the escape uncertain so we didn't know it future inhabitants of Canticle left when the Homeland was overrun when the Evil first appeared (before the novella Shadows for Silence), which would mean that the Forests of Hell could still be inhabited, or if it was long time after, which would mean that the Evil stormed the Forests of Hell and drove Threnodies out of the planet entirely. IotE told us that Threnody was destroyed, but we still don't know when Zellion left Threnody to settle on Canticle. I now believe it happened after the novella, when the Evil fully overrun the planet. TSM ch 15:

Definitely not with the Bands. I do remember that quote from TLM ch 25 and it might have been the source of my confusing memory, but at the same time I'm still quite certain I've seen Wax pushing on metalminds or piercing before (not Hemalurgic spikes), or just seeing them with steelsight.. Can't remember where it was. And because it was a normal push, it wouldn't have enough force to push spikes or metalminds out of the body. Never mind, I've found it. And it wasn't even Wax who did it. There are probably other instances of this in the series, so pushing slightly on metalminds is not something impossible to do with normal Allomantic strength. BoM ch 7.

I'm pretty sure I remember Wax being able to push on some metalminds or piercings piercing the body in the books. Just push on them and use them as anchors. This caught my eye because it was unexpected.

We know from TSM that there are several separate fractions on Scadrial, some are even neutral in future conflicts (or pretending to be neutral), IotE told us that Malwish are a dominant faction on Scadrial and they control around half of roads in Shadesmare, which is a vast power projection. Roshar probably controls most of the other half. From this and some other clues like the alphabet or partisants, we can say that the Basin probably still exists as a political faction, but they are far from being as influential as Malwish in the Cosmere. They are most definitely the weaker of the two of them on Scadrial, which would mean that Malwish won the Era 3 cold war. Obviously, this doesn't mean that the Basin is now irrelevant; contrary, that can just mean that the fascist Malwish are the main antagonists of the Era 4 conflict and the Basin is s protagonist. Malwish are Scadrials, so that's why they are referred as Scadrials. I don't think we need to search for a specific reason why Malwish are called Scadrians in the book, when the simplest one is right in front of our faces. TSM ch 44: IotE ch 35: As for Ghostbloods, once again I think the simplest explanation is the best - they are a secret organisation. It took them 4 books, more than 6-8 years, to show themselves in the W&W series and you expect them to just appear in this book about some people that just got involved in interplanetary politics against their will? We can't say anything about Ghostbloods from the lack of mention of them in IotE. I will just note that Kelsier ended TLM asking Sazed to lead them to stars with a new method of travelling, we see now that Scadrial does this and controls a vast area of Cosmere. Wouldn't that suggest that Kelsier not only achieved his goal, but also this made Ghostbloods even more influential? They are still in the shadows, IotE just wasn't big enough for Ghostbloods to appear. After all, Drominad is not the first colony Scadrial wanted to create on another planet. Ghostbloods' goals might have also shifted from protecting Scadrial from threats to something new as now Scadrial seems capable of defending themselves. And who is to say that Ghostbloods took a side in the Era 3 cold war? Lastly, Harmonium. One simple question to all of you - where did the electricity for all of this Malwish base come from? They are in the middle of nowhere, they've built their base using their own ships in two weeks or so and have a power supply strong enough to use a pretty powerful weapon, capable of neutralizing the Evil (in theory) and breaking draconics artefacts. The power comes from the main ship, but it's a space ship - no smoke stack, no coal plant, no gas plant, no dam to generate power, no wind or sun in Shadesmar. So where is the power coming from? Fusion or fission reactor is on a table, but my bet is Harmonium is somehow powering all of this. Even more, they shared this technology with Drominad. The blackout mentioned at the beginning of the book was caused by Scadrians delaying the delivery of power supply to the planet, a power supply that deactivates when opened. Fusion or fission reactors are way too complicated for a newly industrialized civilization to construct, not to mention that the statement about deactivation would make no sense with those kinds of power plants. Some form of Harmonium batteries would make sense, but if that's not Harmonium, it's probably a new god metal. The book also stated that their fighters are capable of steelpushing in the proper environment and this can only be achieved with Harmonium being present in their ships (as far as we know), just like its used in Era 2 airships. And the ship visiting Drominad required a steel launchpad to be constructed - a clear indication that the ship is using Allomancy and therefore has Harmonium inside of it (I think metal launchpads were also mention in the description of the base in Shadesmar, but I can't find it now). So I bet Harmonium is still used in their fleet, but they are just using spores and fabrials as it's cheaper than setting up a proper steelfield just so they can use their Allomancy in the middle of nowhere. IotE ch 7: A steelpushing device was also described in TSM, indicating the use of Harmonium - a primer cube. TSM ch 45:

It was said in the book that dragons decided to withdraw from Cosmere politics and even though many didn't uphold this promise, it probably played a big role in them being overtaken by other races in the long run. It was also said that dragons' biggest power is their followers, they are deities first and foremost and that is their main strength. I would also say that because of their longevity and small numbers, they might not be as inventive and capable of change as other mortal races are, which made them stagnant. Not to mention that they can't be everywhere and they aren't united, those who play in politics are selfish, thus they have no reason to work with others and share control over their dominions. Their technology and artefacts, while impressive, are being overshadowed by Scadrial's tech and as Dajer said, flight is now common in Cosmere. Also, their role as deities is being contested by other entities, like Shards, Aethers or even some Splinters and the constant progress of society redefines what a deity is (see Dalinar and Jasnah's opinion on Shards), which slowly but surely diminishes their main strength. All of this contributed to the fact that dragons don't rule Cosmere. They once were the main player, but no longer are. IotE ch 40: ch 45: ch 46:

Hemalurgy exists naturally in the Cosmere and it's more similar to Lightweaving. They both manifest differently in different invested arts, being filtered by the world and Shards present in the system. Rosharan Hemalurgy manifests with crystals while Scadrian with metals, but they are both Hemalurgy. No unmaking happened, Rosharan Hemalurgy was there already, it just has been discovered by Ishar and Battar.

Ruin and Cultivation are the most compatible with each other, they are both about change and therefore Cultivation would have struggled a lot at combating Ruin. Cultivation's own intent would to some degree love what Ruin was doing and it would want to be a part of it rather than stop it. If Koravellium would want to fight Ruin, she would have to fight her own intent first, which would weaken her. Preservation on the other hand is the polar opposite of Ruin, it's as far from Ruin as it can be. This is what bound Preservation to impotence, but Ruin was impotent too, preventing him from doing even the simplest and smallest of things. At all time, almost all of their powers were thrown at each other, trying to stop each other from acting and that's the reason Ruin was unable to destroy Scadrial sooner, even though Preservation had broken his Oath. I doubt any other Shard could have done a better job at stopping Ruin without destroying Scadrial in the process.

Yes, that's true. Setting aside the Men of Red and Gold, I initially thought that this golden investiture might be related to Iriali, but now I think it makes more sense if it's of Odium. The Men of Red and Gold are still an unknown thing, but they were not described as glowing gold, they just had golden skin and glowing red eyes, so I doubt they are related. If you're looking for an "investiture wind," then there is the Current. Either the story is true and he rode the Current in the moment of its creation, or it's just partially true and this fragment is meant to represent that he just used the Current to navigate (or maybe even to propel their boats).

Elantris glows with a silvery light, so do Elantrians, Seons and the Dor. They don't glow golden at all. I think the only golden investiture we've seen so far was that of Odium, at the end of RoW when Kaladin's eyes were glowing with a golden light. Odium is also associated with the golden color, even his perpendicularity was filled with golden investiture. Other than this part, I do think you're right, especially considering the WoB. It seems to me that Cakoban had access to Odium's investiture, which does makes sense as Odium was present on Sel, he did Splinter Aona and Skai, so he probably invested in Sel is some way, making it possible for Cakoban to access his investiture and take it for the journey. Although knowing how the ending of the story of Cakoban differs from reality, I wouldn't be surprised if the beginning of it changed as well. Now we know it as him escaping while "giants" were clashing, but it's just as likely that he left the place where giants clashed in the past. He could have left Sel centuries or even millennia after the Splintering of Devotion and Skai, leaving enough time for Odium to Splinter Ambition and give birth to the Evil. He could have acquired golden investiture somewhere along his journey too, we can't really say anything for certain about the story. There are also three other places where "giants" fought - Threnody, Ashyn/Roshar and Scadrial (during Ruin's imprisonment). Each of them could have the origin of this part of the story. I do agree however that Sel is probably more likely than the others.

Possibly, there is a WoB confirming that it's theoretically possible for Hoid to get rid of his Dawnshard's after effects, even though they are on a level beyond that of Nomad's. However, one factor that might play a decisive role here is perception. Sig considers those after effects in a very negative way and doesn't want them, that's why he calls them a Torment. Hoid doesn't think this way about it, he doesn't think it's a bad thing, it's not a Torment for him. If it's not something negative he doesn't want to have, then he might be unable to get rid of it using the same method Sig used. But that's a bit speculative.

Your idea with Skybreakers sounds possible as well. However, this WoB implies Vasher saw Honorblades, which means they probably went to Shinovar: We also know that 5 years before SA, Nightblood might have been in hands of the Nightwatcher, as she offered Dalinar a sword that fits Nightblood's description. It seems that Nale didn't get Nightblood directly from Vasher but from the Nightwacher instead. OB ch 114: They both work by the same mechanism, converting physical mass into something else. In the Royal Locks case, you're converting your body's energy stores into hair, in Lift's case she is converting mass into pure investiture. This doesn't mean that Lift has the Royal Locks, just that she is using the same mechanism to gain investiture. Why Vasher and Shashara couldn't have had a child on Roshar? We know it's very hard for Returned to have a kid and we don't know if Vasher knows how to do it. Also, it would be really bad parenting if they left their kid on Roshar instead of taking them back home. Although, they could have stayed on Roshar until their kid grew up. As for Lift's hair not changing color, does Cultivation's boon work well? No. Lift is changing, she is growing up, she's taller and is developing as a woman. The boon doesn't work as Lift'd hoped. If the boon can't stop Lift from growing up, it wouldn't stop Lift's hair from changing color, at least during the most emotional moments in her life - and we've seen quite a few of those and there was no change in her hair at all.

The WoB talks about the book which is the furthest in Cosmere timeline, the fact that Tress is omitted means that it happens earlier than any of the books that were mentioned. You can hide and suppress your Elantrian powers and look with ease so Hoid not looking like an Elantrian is not a proof of anything. Riino does this, a simple Lightweaving does it as well and Hoid has now 3 separate Lightweaving powers. Moreover, we know that there is a vast trade network of spores established on Lumar and its moons during IoE and in Tress there is no sign of Spore mining anywhere. The presence of Worldhoppers and futuristic technology is also not prominent, but it would be if Lumar had a full scale production of one of the most important resources for any space and Shadesmar-faring civilization. For me those are little clues that point towards the conclusion that Tress is happening early on in Era 4, when Lumar is not the main source of Aethers yet. Instead, Dhatri could be the main or even only source of Aethers in Cosmere at this point of time, and the presence of Riina and Xisis might have even discouraged others to get close to Lumar. Of course, this is a bit speculative, but the WoB is more definite, so together they all go well with placing Tress earlier than other three novelas. However, Hoid telling the story of Tress on the First of the Sun happens quite far in the timeline. I would suggest it happens even after IoE as that's when Drominad opens itself to visitors from outside and that's when it would be easier for him to get to the planet. Hoid of course could find its perpendicularity on his own and cross through Patji without problems, so it's hard to say if it's before or after IoE or SotD.