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Did you see "Vader and son" etc? TLR: I said you're not going to that party! *points to the coins* Drop this immediately! Daughter: Fiiine... I'll drop it. *drops the coin and Steelpushes away*

Sorry, I understood you wrong it seems. As if the bonding itself could kill him. My apologies.

Well, before the Shattering and Shards Investing their power, all worlds were like this (without "people with magic", since no Shard Investiture). It is not much of a stretch to assume that (combined with the WoB about magic being very different pre-Shattering) all (maybe with exception of Yolen) magic worked like this.

Marvel breaks "Earth is not Cosmere" rule. But The One Above All (or whoever it is) would be God Beyond and Infinity Stones would be something like Splinters of him?

All original Shardholders come from Yolen, as Hoid does. Hoid knew if not all, then at least part of them.

They break if you hit them with a hammer. Night before the exam is just like the moment when you see the man aiming at you pull the trigger. (Yeah, I'm a little monothematic )

The one Order who stayed tru to their oaths could be Stonewardens. "I will stand when others fall" indeed. It would also nicely reflect that their patron was the only Herald who was fulfilling the Oathpact.

As for the healing, it will only heal what you think "isn't right about me". So, for example if Renarin viewed his eyesight as... (I can't find the right word, pardon me) sickness/disease, then it will be healed. Probably on Roshar medicine isn't advanced enough to diagnose poor eyesight in early childhood to give the child glasses. It probably occured later, so he didn't identify with it. I wear glasses as long as I remember and feel strange without them, so I guess Stormlight wouldn't heal my eyes. Renarin probably later, so he may got used to them, but didn't view it as part of himself.

But didn't Hemalurgy emerge only after the Shattering? It is of Ruin, so logically it would only exist after he Invested his power in Scadrial. There is a WoB that pre-Shattering magic was very different from that post-Shattering; that it wasn't something you use, but something you interact with.

Don't worry, it's only a decade more or something like that and you'll be able to talk freely XD P.S. you seem a material for Theorywatcher, checkout the Knights Theoretic in my sign

I think he only said that bonding will make him kill-able (mortal doesn't sound right). If Dalinar breaks his oaths, Stormfather takes the damage just like Syl did. He is scared of that. Nothing about the bond itself being harmful or dangerous.

And by that definition darkeyes and lighteyes are the same race. One trait is too little to declare them different races. Before somebody pulls "but we're defining human races based only on skin color" I'd like to remind that many different traits are correlated alongside the skin color. But Alethi share almost everything. If you take eyes out of equation, you wouldn't be able to tell between darkeye and lighteye. In our world, if you take the skin color out of equation, you're still able to distuingish, for example, Native American (Indian...Indiana? Indie?) from Mongolian. Edit: Ninja'd by Garfield

I think I need to explain something: I am not discussing whether Kaladin's prejudice is right or wrong, grounded or ungrounded. I take issue with claiming something racism when it's clearly not. For example, we do not call prejudice against a gender 'racism', but 'sexism'. And people of the same gender have much more in common than simply sharing the hue of eyes. But we're not calling that particular prejudice 'racism', are we? Lighteyes and darkeyes are the same race. Part of the population has light eyes, part of it dark eyes. By this feature the population is divided into two main castes (casts? I am not sure): higher and lower. Then these two classes are further divided into ten subdivisions each. If Brandon decided to name lighteyes 'ruling caste' and darkeyes 'working caste' while keeping everything else, we would not be having this discussion right now. It would be obvious that the thing going on is about people of lower status hating those of higher status.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Being higher caste means more power et cetera. I just wanted to point out that people tend to omit this fact instead going on with "he hates them simply for light eyecolour".

I always thought that Renarin heard the screams as well as Kaladin but was so strong willed and composed he didn't show it. But it also could be true that zero and First Ideal Radiants don't hear the screams, just feel uneasy.

This. Kelsier argument is perfect. Was Kelsier racist for hating nobles in general? Many people here confuse the cause with the consequence - Kaladin doesn't hate people with light eyes simply for it, but because being lighteyed means being a part of the higher caste. And that's what he hates those people for. Racism is the former, classism is the latter.

Vin?

Well, it's not like there aren't tons of the creatures like this around... He must have figured out that it's a spren. So it's not exactly "I am seeing things, I am going crazy" thing.

Wait... Hoid did not live through all those years he's been alive He uses Feruchemy He uses Feruchemy to get to important events - he lives through important events Therefore, I suspect Hoid stores time/years and taps it to live through the chosen ones.

By "speaking the oath" we mean the same as the Radiant swearing an oath. What is the matter here that even somebody living by the radiant's code and belief and swearing the oaths wouldn't be enough to revive the dead spren.

The thing is that the main caste division is darkeye/lighteye. So there is a caste of darkeyes and a caste of lighteyes. Then there are subdivisions of darkeyes (Nahn) and lighteyes (Dahn). So my argument still holds true. I already disproved that argument of yours that Kaladin has a problem with people if their eyes are light. Nope. He's got a problem because they're in higher caste and the eyecolour happens to be a distuingishing characteristict of that caste. If the caste system was based on the height, he would have got a problem with people over 1,80 m. If it was based on, I dunno, hair color, he would claim blondes dishonorable. It's about the caste itself, not what their characteristic happens to be. (Like I previously proposed thought experiment with tattoos instead of eyecolor, but you didn't answer how then Kaladin would be a racist)

Isn't Dor just rough Shard power? Dominion and Devotion are no more and their power kind of flooded the planet. It leaks to Physical Realm through Sel's focus, which is correct shape and pattern. The same would happen on Roshar with Honor's power if it weren't for the sprens - the power assumed the form which was already prevalent on Roshar, creating more sprens. ...Then, what is Stormlight? It doesn't belong to any of the Shards, I believe. It is something not seen before like Breaths, I guess?

Sooo... You're basically saying "Arguments doesn't matter, I am right because I am"? And naming the thing correctly is important, because right now we're making a thought experiment and removing the eye colour from Roshar. Situation stays the same, nothing changes. Now we're having a "superior caste" and "inferior caste" and inferior ones doesn't think highly of those superior. We can replace eye colour with tattoos on forehead to be able to distinguish people instantly to keep that particular feature of vorin caste system. Is it still racism to you? Based on what? It will be discrimination, yes. Racism, no. I personally think Kaladin doesn't really change his worldview on lighteyes; he just thinks "Okay, this one and maybe his family are alright, but exceptions happens and lighteyes are still crem". One example doesn't mean the majority of lighteyes is good now. And as for the treason he learns that the man who was responsible for the trouble his family has gone through was sent there as punishment for his crimes which happen to be killing off his business rivals (a pair of elders, for the Colours' sake!) in the eye of the law. Who sent that man there? Why, Elhokar.

Both are of Odium, you're scared of both, encountering one is not pleasant and you wish you could kill it. End of semester is like the Desolation.

As for the bond-breaking, never lying to yourself is pretty hard, even more for people who rely on manipulation and lies, like Lightweavers. "I will start learning tomorrow" "Just one more episode" "This year I will start exercising" "He deserved that, it's not my fault" et cetera. While none of this lies seem serious enough to break the bond, but "there is always another lie" ~Kelsier the Lightweaver. The amount of it may be dangerous, and those aren't even those really serious lies - those which we tell ourselves about ourselves. It hurts when somebody tells you the blunt, ugly truth about yourself, right? Now try to see that truth by yourself and accept it. You have to realise what person you really are and that's not simple nor pleasant.