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I dont think what you describe would work. What you describe is not reversing the Power source hack of Compounding, you're describing actually storing the external effect for later use. Normal Nicrosil may well do that (or something similar) but I dont see how you would store an individual Push for later use (as opposed to storing the ability to Push) because all the targets involved would be long gone. Compounding works because of the wildly different scales of power in each, so I dont see how it would work (or benefit) from reversing the process. Compounding is described in WOB as hooking up a pedal-power device to the Mains Power. Reversing that would give you the Allomantic effects with a wildly reduced (and more problematic) power source, but I dont think ti would be able to force metalminds to store new things.
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Thoughts & Opinions on the Sonic The Hedgehog Movie
Quantus replied to Ironwill2112's topic in Entertainment Discussion
I enjoyed it, and it was a lot better than I expected going into it. It could have been a lot worse, and also could have won Best Picture at the Video Game Movie Oscars. I would have been annoyed by all the Olive Garden product placement, but they leaned into the ridiculousness of it so hard I just found it amusing. -
Can animals be healed by Progression?
Quantus replied to Necessary Eagle's topic in Stormlight Archive
For datapoints, WOB says most animals cannot be affected by Emotional Allomancy, and most cannot personally use powers because they lack the sapience (so no F-Gold). On the other hand, Animals can be used for Awakening, and there exist Animal Shades. Those last two make me think they'd have enough of the basic spiritual structure to be healed by Regrowth, and abnormally intelligent animals like Ryshadium certainly would. In the case of Regrowth there is actually a mix of the target's self-image and the Radiant's external one at play, which I think would be a benefit in this case since the Radiant could then supplement some of the cognitive requirements that the animal may not be capable of. -
No, You are right. I meant "ReSealing", the sub-specialty of Mai Pon Forgery they use for healing. Given that you need to precisely know every tissue to do it right, I assume there is more danger/freedom to make small mistakes/changes, which for a skilled enough person could include functionally increased muscle mass.
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Neither would do it, in this case. Both are examples of Spiritual Healing, which is not the classic accelerated cellular processes type so it cannot give you the benefits of from the damage & recovery cycle of weightlifting. It's closer to restoring your body from a backup, your Platonic Ideal as it exists int he spiritual realm, but the damage your body took is directly UnDone as you are restored to your Ideal, meaning it will not be able to Change that Ideal into a more muscular version of yourself. Bloodsealing ReSealing could probably do it (would take advanced medical degrees worth of physiology), as could normal personal history style Soulstamp forgery (of course).
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So we now know that as of RoW the Order of Windrunners has maxed out, and while there are plenty of worthy candidates among the squires, there are no more (willing) Honorspren available*. The intimidate question that comes to mind is Why. I can think of three reasons (or categories of reasons) for this to occur: Social/Cultural issue: The rest of the Honorspren are not willing or able to commit themselves to the Radiant side, so the available population is limited. Perhaps the other Honorspren are still hesitant to risk another Recreances, and/or commit to the current conflict. Or.... There could be voidish oppression in the Honorspren territories of Shadesmar preventing more from making the journey to the Physical realm to Bond (maybe that's the driver of the Shadesmar quest?) Metaphysical Issue: Perhaps the Orders' Bonds are more directly hierarchical than we initially thought, and they have hit a cap because the Order as a Whole cant support more Windrunners until somebody discovers and Speaks the 4th, and by implication there will be another cap until a 5th Ideal Windrunner emerges. *Except for one specific one that Kaladin mentions. I suspect there is a Spren ready to Bond Rock, but he's resistant for what Im going to broadly call "Cultural Issues".
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Aluminum Spike might do it. It should in theory permanently remove all powers from the recipient, which I think could take the savantism with it. Alternatively it might just make it worse. For example removing Tin after getting the sensory overload issue might have additional fallout where the senses are reliant on the allomancy, so removing makes you blind and deaf.
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I could definitely accept that interpretation. Regardless though, the part where MrT rejects the very concept of spren being enslaved, saying they are just like chulls makes it clear to me that he does not see any distinction between the sapient and lesser spren.
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I remember that scene, the bastract, musing tone MrT had made me think he was more speaking about Spren as a whole, not trying to say that those specific Augmentor fabrials are using sapient spren, which so far is a distinction that few living humans seem to even be aware of.
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The thing about the Fused is that I dont think we are seeing onfe Fuse type per Surge, I think we are seeing one fused-type Order, and the equivalence is Tactical not metaphysical. Sometimes the similarity is pretty obvious and direct, as with the Windrunner, Edgedancer, or Lightweaver equivalents that mostly match their signature surge. Others, like the ones that can more freely manipulate their carapace for tools and weapons, are harder to immediately place. And then there are the Thundercasts, and Im not even sure they are part of the Nine Order equivalents since they dont appear to posses Singer bodies like the rest. I suspect several will be more functionally convergent effects than literal copies of the radiant surges. In the case of this Elsecaller-ish teleporter, I came to the same conclusion as @Child of Hodor, their surge is at least partially a Soulcasting effect that is creating a new body for them each time. However, I dont think they are capable of whipping up an original host-body whole, rather I think they are able to soul-cast an inert meat-copy (something that a shardblade would cut) and then re-assign their spiritual attachment to it. This would explain the way it crumbles, if as @Gilphon pointed out, if it is realmically the same as a broken set of shardplate competing for the animating Identity and Spiritual connect, and also why they would (presumably) still need a host Singer. So while it sounds like a normal Elsecaller moves their body whole, a Fused soulcasts a new one at the destination and then reassigns it's host's spiritual connections to the newly fabricated meat (far closer to classic Star Trek teleportation). Thematically this screams Elsecaller over Willshaper because it's more like a weirdly limited combination (Resonance?) between Soulcasting and Elsecalling that only approximates the Elsecaller's signature advantage.
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Half-shards arent different than other fabrials as far as we know, they are just Augmentor Fabrials. They dont use Sapient Spren, if that's what you were thinking. To the OP, Im with most here: it's the spren equivalent of animals, with all the same cultural divergence of opinion and fuzzy morality. Syl's aunt likes to Hunt some spren, and many are objectively dangerous enough in shadesmar to warrant such things. Many spren naturally join a living fabrial in one of the many Gemheart symbiotic relationships, so it's not like the process is innately unnatural or painful to the spren involved. Also the Oathgate spren seemed sad that they could no longer serve their fabrial purpose, so they are not unhappy about being fabrials, at least. All that to say it will come down to individual treatment; using a horse or ox for farm labor is not innately evil (imo) but if done without compassion it can easily become abusive. Past that I suspect several things but couldnt prove them: Different spren cultures will have wildly different opinions on the matter, just like everything else. While not all fabrials are unpleasant to be in, some are probably worse than others. I suspect that the fabrials that mimic Surges directly (Soulcasters, Regrowth Fabrial, etc) house Sapient spren that chose/were convinced to help but didnt want to commit to a full Nahel Bond.
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Fun ideas you think could be done with Surges
Quantus replied to StanLemon's topic in Stormlight Archive
Division should be capable of Lighting attacks like Stormform, by Dividing the charged particles in the air to create the electron imbalance that is Lightning. -
He's hardcore about Rules, it's one of the big things that impressed Nale enough to personally recruit him. It wasnt until he discovered through the existence of Kaladin and other Radiants that he came to the conclusion that it was the Shin Leadership that were in the Wrong, not him (an epiphany that the Diagram warned against). But even then, I think the fact that he literally died also helped him rationalize the end of his Truthless status and joining the Skybreakers, not to mention the fact that Skybreakers apparently have authority to absolve any and all past crimes of their initiates.
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Im going with No crushing effect, because it's reverting to a state that never could have fit a cat in the first place. When the Forgery reverts, I think it reverts that objects entirely role/history. So when it reverts I think the box would blink small and get shunted out to the side of Fluffy. If it was small enough to be practical it might it a lesser energy change to revert to a timeline where the cat ate the tiny box instead of being inside the bog box. We know there is a specific energy associated with each timeline change, so I think the universe would force it to the least different scenario (representing the lowest energy state) that fits the new current arrangement of things. And presumably by Forgery rules the change to "the cat was never in the box" is a smaller change than "the cat got crushed by a spontaneous warp of space-time".
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The Conundrum of Conjoiners: an Analysis of Navani's Airship
Quantus replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Compasses arent particularly necessary for more navigation, historically. They are arguably better than most other methods because they can be used day or night and in any weather condition, but they were not widely used for land navigation until the middle ages. Celestial navigation, sunstones, etc, were entirely effective before that. And on Roshar in particular, the Highstorm and crem deposits make direction immediately visible by literally any part of the landscape, with the way it always hits one side of a given structure and crem builds up more on the stormward side. So in most places on Roshar you literally just need to glance around to instantly know Stormward and Leeward (East & West). -
Any Seeker would be able to "hear" the pulses but they would then have to decipher the actual code. Im assuming they dont actually have a publicly known Morse Code equivalent. I dont think they have a telegraph network or anything similar.
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I see no reason why it wouldnt work, communication can happen any time you have a reliable transmitter and receiver pair. Zinc probably works better than Brass, since it can swing the target to several different emotional states for coded intent (ie a sequence of Anger-Fear-Lust means one thing while Anger-Lust-Discust means another, for a short list of coded messages) Looking at the other metals: You could do the same by wriggling Morse code on a coin in somebody's pocket using Iron or Steel. You can use Bronze to hear coded burn pulses from basically any other metal. Tin might let you pass a wide variety of discrete cold-war style messages through more traditional sensory means, but a huge variety of possibilities, from codes perfume scents to sub-audible sounds, etc.
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The Conundrum of Conjoiners: an Analysis of Navani's Airship
Quantus replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
in the case of the method she mentions to isolate the link to a single plane, I think it would follow normal component force rules (below), so the vertical component would be transmitted through the fabrial link while the lateral force would not, and some force would be lost. Navani implied that it was a separate breakthrough to Change the vector, and Im hoping to get a look a the actual aluminum shielding to figure out how the two apparently distinct effects are pulled off. https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/Lesson-3/Resolution-of-Forces I thought we had, but I will have see if I can find an example before I could swear to it. -
theory Ba-Ado-Mishram was using a Dawnshard?
Quantus replied to KandraAllomancer's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Sorry, but where did we learn this? I though I was up to date on the preview chapters but missed this somehow.- 15 replies
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The Conundrum of Conjoiners: an Analysis of Navani's Airship
Quantus replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Im not sure what you mean here? I propose that this is not a concern on Roshar, because as far as the collective consciousness of Roshar is concerned, the planet is a flat plane. We know this by the topography of teh Cognitive Realm, which surges generally do business with and which is literally the reflection of the collective idea of Reality. All that to say that spanreeds are likely to operate using Cognitive Realm topography, where everything is projected onto a flat plane with (more) objective cardinal directions. -
The Conundrum of Conjoiners: an Analysis of Navani's Airship
Quantus replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I thought Spanreed table orientation did matter, and there'd been mention of a bit of a back and forth ritual to get things aligned to hit the ink wells and things, but I would have to go looking for the actual passages. Friction doesnt have a reaction force, it is the reaction force. Or more accurately it is a force-equivalent term for energy being lost to other domains. I guess that was the main point I was trying to make: that even in normal physics calculations frinction is outside the Conservation of Force Equal&opposite force balance, it has to be captured in a wider Work-Energy calculation, but that doesnt violate Conservation of Energy. -
I would camp in the Library for a week, after which I would know ALL the things. A lot of my job involves tracking down technical information for various engineering solutions, not to mention a habit of starting a new hobby every third week. Being able to download all those various buckets of information at need and Neo-style would be fantastic. Especially in an early industrial society like scadrial
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The Conundrum of Conjoiners: an Analysis of Navani's Airship
Quantus replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Im late to the party so not 100% sure where everybody is at this point in the discussion, so forgive me if this ends up just being a recap. I more or less agree with @hoiditthroughthegrapevine's analysis. The Spanreeds were the base technology, but they locked all relative rotation to each other, and the users had to go through that little alignment ritual we saw them doing. As Navani said, So there were two different Aluminum-based breakthrough's here: Isolation of motion along a single plane Change Vectors of Force The first allowed them to use two different conjoiner webs on one object, by isolating them each to different directions of motion. That way there is a Lift Fabrial rigged to rocks dangling off the tower, and a Drive Fabrial linked to the Chull teams. By isolating the planes the elevation of the chulls makes no difference to the barge, nor does the horizontal motion of the Lift rocks, because those planes are not transmitted (entangled?). The second (which Id missed on my first read-through) allows them to transmit forward motion of the chulls as they march in both direction: they march them out, reverse the horizontal axis, and then march them back "as all the while the airship continued in a straight line." I dont recall a specific mention, but I assume this also lets them steer the airship by changing the vector, allowing them to march the chulls back and forth in a single lane, rather than roaming all over a pasture. Side Note: This isnt a problem, Friction never has an equal&opposite reaction force, and is not ever conserved as force. Instead it's works under conservation of Energy, and represents energy lost from the system into other energy types (most typically mechanical heat, sound, and plastic deformation, but can be magnetic, etc too.) So for the stormlight equivalent I'd image it to just an efficiency loss as some energy is leaks out at increased distances (or maybe is used up supporting/maintaining the connection?). -
On the whole Wood vs Metal for it's construction, dont forget that they have their super Bridge-Balsa Plot-wood that is both ube-strong and uber-light (Naturally occurring carbon fiber, would be my guess). There may not actually be many metals (especially common metals and not specialized alloys) that would compete with Plot-Wood. As far as Improvements to The Forth Bridge, Defensive and offensive capabilities are the obvious next step, along with real cabins that might let them weather a storm on-board (landed of course). But those are almost more logistics than technology. For the airship itself I think the main place for improvement is the drive system. Since their lift and propulsion are separate systems, that leaves a lot of flexibility. The current chull-drive process is really inefficient because roughly half of the time is spent resetting the chulls and gems while the barge sits idle. A second set of drive gems that are reversed would double their overall speed simply, because they could be moving the barge forward on both sides of the chull cycle. The Chull Drive has the benefit of not actually requiring any radiant to operate, which are a far more limited resource. But when they do have them in the strength we saw, Windrunner gravitation for the horizontal drive should be pretty easy. They wouldnt actually want too many lashings on top of each other, anything more than like 2-3 G's would start slinging people off, but with Dalinar fueling that many Windrunners I bet they could each put a 0.05 Lashing on the thing and add up to a proper falling speed. I dont think so, you cant have it on-board for the same reason you cant pull on your shoelaces and levitate. One of the two ends needs to be anchored to ground so the system as a whole has something to "push off" against. Ah, D&D's classic immovable rod, I love it. My favorite application was to put one in a spear-head and use it to stop a charging horse.
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Im assuming you meant F-Pewter since you mentioned filling them at the same time. I dont think that's an option, at least not a natural one: There are people with only one Allomantic metal and one feruchemcial one, but nobody that has more than one but less than all. Granted Spikes or Coins could get around that easily enough.
