The One Who Connects

It's not in Jah Keved. Modern Day Jah Keved was included in ancient Alethela, where Urithiru is on the record as having not been built within.

I would potentially allow an exception with regards to some "mixture" of end-negative systems, but otherwise I agree with this sentiment. The connections should be consistent and provable. (Makes we wonder if Ruin would always have a end-negative system...) This is an.. interesting way of putting it, and not entirely without merit. Biggest issue I can see right now is that the Shards were(as far as we know) all created at the same time, so how they would get their numbers is up for debate. In all honesty, I technically was disagreeing with you. Scadrial read as "you cannot make apple pie without apples" and Roshar read as "you cannot make apple pie without oranges" so I tried to put them in the same category. It all worked out in the end somehow. Well, whenever your idea is up for discussion, make a thread of your own to explain the theory. The fact that an idea isn't fully fleshed out hasn't stopped any of us from posting our own crazy ideas in the past. Discussion usually leads to better ideas/understanding.

Not that I am remember. However, Brandon has said that he would go into more detail about Pahn Khal culture in the Warbreaker Sequel

This is all I could gather from a quick search of the wiki Tonk Fah - "large of girth" which I assume means a big stomach/waistline. Might mean that he is a bit fat or that his body is just built a bit wider than others are. Pahn Khal - different skin tone and facial features from the people of Hallandren. Also slightly shorter than the average Hallandren native. Actually, maybe there is something to that wide waist comment. Vahr (another Pahn Khal) was described as a plump man, at least before wasting away in a prison cell.

I was thinking more along the lines of showing a less Sadeas style bridge run, so that it would contrast to the brutality when Kaladin goes on his first one. But if we have a bit of the bridgemen's perspective during the little expositional bit of the Chasmfiend scene before the real action, that might work just as well, since I believe they were using Dalinar's bridges in that scene anyway. I only meant it would feel rushed since I figured he could only be involved in said triangle once he was in Dalinar's service, which happened after the Tower near the end of the book. If the Tower battle were made earlier, then it risked making the movie lose the "self-contained" sense it needed to have. If you can find some workaround, then more power to you. As I mentioned in the parentheses after posting, I hadn't realized that the Chasmfiend hunt actually was his introduction to the story, so that statement from me may as well be rescinded. And I just felt like Elhokar would be perceived as only being so that Dalinar to act heroic. (In all fairness, that may be how Brandon meant to write the scene) Well, I was spitballing ideas for how to make Kaladin's soldier backstory work around your statement of "he can't just show up in a slave cart right at the start" but if you are having his soldier days be on the plains, rather than afar.. Biggest issue is why he would be killing a Shardbearer if he were on the plains, since it's not human vs human combat. Although, if Helaran doesn't become super important in the future of the series, he could kill a Parshendi Shardbearer and Amaram just has an assassination story in his past. Not too sure how to make that work, what with the eventual slavery thing still going forward somehow.. Edit(more thoughts): Actually, perhaps Helaran could try to kill Amaram during a bridge run, since his handlers don't seem to care about who they get rid of. Kaladin could save him, but since killed a human Shardbearer during an "important" battle while doing it, punishment must be meted out. Kaladin disagrees, but disagreeing with the Lighteyes is his MO. Sets up his vendetta against Amaram for the aftermath scene of Adolin's 4v1 fight in book 2 quite nicely. I never actually considered that Taravangian's good guy persona is the type of character who could come to you. That could actually work into the narrative quite well, but the chaos in Jah Keved only starts after the interlude I-9, where Szeth kills off Hanavanar(who I believe was the current King at the time) Striking a deal for healers is probably the best idea, since it'd basically introduce both him and his hospitals. Both of which are needed for his reveal at the end to have more punch to it.

This has several different points to address, so bear with me if it gets tangled up. (I'll edit it for overall clarity later if need be) I agree that Shardbearers need to be a bigger perceived "threat-level" for Kaladin's miraculous kill to have the same punch on screen that we all know it should. My original thought was going to be that they were already introduced in the prologue: Gavilar vs Szeth. But I realized there were several issues with that. Shardbearer lost(albeit Szeth has magic..) and it's only one example. My second idea was to have one in the same army as Kaladin's for one of his soldier scenes, so we can see their destructive power without Kaladin being in danger, but most of them should be at the plains, meaning this might not be feasible. I also agree that the Lighteye/Darkeye schism should be more established, but not necessarily more blatant. Anyone on here have opinions/ideas on how to make it understood enough that people can just make casual remarks without sounding too forced? Because if it's written well enough to be an underlying thing then it can be subtle insults that you understand as insults, but later realize they have a bit more oomph to them. Anyway, through Kaladin, we are largely introduced to both of those things while he is at the plains(Shardbearers is more Dalinar's perspective, but the point stands..) Why not have some of Dalinar's perspective of the events at the Plains before bringing Kaladin there, slipping a bit of the the real war in between some of Kaladin's flashback arc? That way we can have some of Kaladin's flashbacks told as proper story rather than flashbacks, without the early movie devolving into the Kaladin show. Kaladin and Dalinar's stories only directly converge near the end, so having a shorter period of separation once both are on the plains isn't necessarily a big issue. In addition, it gives a more immediate contrast to Kaladin's chasm run experiences, something I don't think we actually get for quite a while in the books. We as readers know they can't all be like this, but it helps to actually show it. However, while I feel we should get Dalinar's arc rolling earlier, I still feel that Dalinar catching the Chasmfiend claw should be later in the movie.(dang, was that really only his second chapter in the book?) Elhokar should also be introduced at least slightly before that, because it has more impact if we actually realize that he is saving the King, not just an incompetent random. Following with my idea above, would you settle for one of Kaladin's first scenes being when he joins the army? It'd introduce Kaladin and Tien right off the bat(getting a hunger games vibe from that scene now..), and start the connection between Kaladin and Amaram, rather than introducing him in the scene where he condemns Kaladin to slavery. I certainly understand why having Adolin helps counterbalance Dalinar in his arc, but given that most of the Adolin-Kaladin dynamic is in WoR after the battle of the Tower, I am unsure about the love triangle for the purpose of the timeline rather than the storyline. Having some of that dynamic during WoR is acceptable as long as they don't go overboard with it, but not in WoK, as it just isn't as feasible to forge. Giving Kaladin more story as a soldier means he isn't on the plains for more of the story, so he cannot even participate in a triangle. By all means you could have Shallan at the plains ahead of schedule so that she can have a romance with Adolin, but save the triangle for the next movie so that it wont feel rushed. It's been generally accepted that the Szeth interludes for WoK and the Eshonai Interludes for WoR should stay for the movies, even if the others all get axed. Szeth's interlude arc leads up to him joining Taravangian, so while it wouldn't exactly bring up the Diagram, we'd see the Silent Gatherers and get both Szeth and Taravangian positioned for book 2. This line is to Maxal as well as you, but for Taravangian's reveal at the end to have an impact, we should see the simple side of him in that scene with him, Jasnah and Shallan in Kharbranth. You can fast-forward most of Shallan's early arc to have her at the plains in WoK, but since you don't want Kaladin to just "show up" at the plains, don't make Shallan just show up either. Given your statement about how switching between too many things is too much shuffle for a non-established franchise, what do either of you think about the layout of Elantris? 3 primary perspectives, generally rotating between each of them every few chapters so that they all progress at an even pace. Ignoring anything related to the actual story, would that format actually work in a film medium, in any capacity? I was thinking that if it would work, then that could help solve this issue. Shallan and Dalinar's arcs would somewhat join together via Adolin, so it would eventually only be swapping between 2 separate arcs, and even then, they are all at the plains so it could be perceived as parts of one bigger story, rather than disconnected arcs.

Fair enough. Navigating reddit just seems illogical sometimes. Have an upvote for proving me wrong

I meant.. they, um.. Somewhat? I'm sure that did happen, with or without there being any real value to the name beforehand. The idea made more sense the other day when I didn't have to think too deeply into it. Basically, it depended on how the Shards got their names. Whether it was from prior knowledge and understanding when they Shattered him, or if the power itself basically told them(in a way) Because however they came upon that knowledge, Adonalsium should have been able to gain similar insight into the power he himself held. If the Investiture is what told them what Shard they held, the same would hold for Big A, thus his name means something, and [of God] is as good an interpretation as any. But I considered that if they somehow learned which aspects he would be split into, then all the aspects combined would have to be something divisible into those. The logical thing would be a person(less specifically, a being's mind), as they have all these aspects and more. As a being, he could have any name, and since he was basically a God, the name literally became "God" or perhaps "He who creates" if they weren't feeling pretentious. When did this happen? Or are you stemming ideas outwards from the "belief in a being that is not of the shards" WoB and running with it.

I'm saying that the Shardic names are usually related to their intent. (Harmony is a little iffy, but oh well) Adonalsium's intent was "to create life(sentience?)" IIRC, which is on a different level from the intent of Honor, or the intent of Autonomy, etc.. Anyway, Honor's name would, at its most basic, mean something like "to be honorable", Autonomy'd have "to be autonomous" Adonalsium himself would be likely define it as "to create" but perhaps over time, people's interpretation of the name changed it's common meaning to the point of the name literally meaning "of God." There was something more to this idea, but I'm drawing a blank from being tired

Technical nitpick, but last I looked, he left it in Jah Keved. Well, the "he is indeed an Allomancer" would be what says he had to alloy it with a Mistborn metal, but we've assumed at least twice that he didn't use all of it... Also, given the definition of alloying, I'm not sure it would work with the sphere.

The closest thing I could find is this. This is only relevant because of the "Frost is not a Worldhopper" WoB people keep bringing up that I could never manage to find... Fairly certain that was debunked. Fortune is (in some way) the underlying principle of Chromium Feruchemy, and possibly Hoid's special ability to know where to be, among other things. It's just a Cosmere mechanic of magic.

Well, given that "Adonalsium shattered because he was killed," perhaps the meaning [of god] has relation to a vessel's chosen/given name?

Coppermind Page It is possible that Proving Day was how the Heralds were chosen from among the population of Roshar. It is implied that the tasks asked of the Heralds were difficult, if not impossible.[1] WoB

This here highlights the issue. On Scadrial, you cannot perform any power without one of these 16 metals, so thus 16 powers. Some people see it differently, but this is feasible argument nonetheless. On Roshar, you cannot perform any power without one of the ten fundamental forces, or "Surges." It is not 30 different bindings, but 30 different ways to build upon those fundamental forces. This number will remain at 10 until such point as we see whether or not Voidbinding and/or Cultivation's magic system use something different. It is similar to Aons, in that there all all sorts of powers, but they are all patterned off of 1 Base Aon. On Roshar, there are 10 Base Surges. Scadrial has 16 Base Metals.

Given the as yet unexplored effect of triple moons on tides and other weather, coupled with an extra Highstorm in a set where the cycle follows an actual pattern(but not screwing up that pattern in future cycles), etc.. I'm not entirely sure that the Stormfather could ensure the continuance of the specific "season" that he wanted without experimenting/practice

While the semantics are still a moot point, he wouldn't give them Chromium even if he did have access to it, as they could use that against him. Secret History Spoilers (relating to knowing stuff for the Bands) (Don't know if that makes a difference, but...) Also, the Nicrosil WoB was basically a non-answer: "The Lord Ruler knew a lot of things nobody knows."

I suppose that I'm reading too much into Peter's "Do you have reason to doubt it" response, then? Yata asked Peter about the canonocity of the MAG's Gold Feruchemy for your Feruchemy/Hemalurgy Question back in September. The first thing Peter said in the twitter screencap was "do you have reason to doubt it?" rather than a straight "the MAG's not canon" so I assumed that wording meant something. For the second part, his response is a fair bit after the book since Bands Of Mourning was published in January of that year. So that also factors into why I thought the wording of his response was important.

It's a little more clearcut than that. The MAG was designed as an addition to the Canon, which means it basically exists as Canon until proven otherwise and/or we have reason to doubt it. Anything that has been overwritten by WoB or the Books is no longer canon, but everything else is "still acceptable" until we have reason to believe it isn't accurate.

Brandon has said that you can make something rigid with it, so it would stand to reason that it can make something less rigid. I don't know if that specifically implies elasticity, but it seems plausible at the moment. Granted, this WoB is older, but he speaks of it like surface tension and/or tensile strength.

When he was asked if it was hundreds or thousands of years earlier, he started with "it's quite.." and then said "it's not thousands." I felt like "it's quite.." was him saying it's a long time ago(like not a few hundred), but then he said it isn't "thousands" plural. So I picked the small span of years that is not hundreds, but also not thousands, since it rounds down to 1K. Take it as you will, as I partially pulled the number out of a hat. Honest answer, it was convenient for me in this timeline related thread. And now it's kinda stuck in my head as a good number.

Bit further back than hundreds, but not thousands. I put my money on 1,100-1,400 but that's just me.

The confirmation only said: "he is indeed an Allomancer" so he may not specifically be Mistborn. Then there is the argument that you can do more or less everything with Rioting that you can do with Soothing, but that's largely irrelevant to this topic.

There's a WoB that if you burned a Lerasium-Steel and a Lerasium-Iron alloy, that you would become a double Misting. (might not have been those two, but Iron/Steel are a good pair for questions) There's speculation about whether it has to be at the same time or not, but I feel like since base Lerasium is additive to current Allomantic strength rather than a complete overwrite, you should get both powers.

Unfortunately for this idea, Brandon is fairly sure that Honor died after that vision, since he had "memory" of it to show Dalinar. Doesn't mean that some gradual weakening of their bonds/personal honor didn't affect him in some way, so it's still a good idea. For future reference, it was Windrunners and Stonewards in the vision. There's been enough "maybe Taln's order didn't give up" theories for me to remember that

I found it. The answer to your question, which inevitably leads to more questions... Relevant passage in bold.