Illwei Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Perhaps i think you're arguing the wrong points :P. Regardless of the intentions, that is a side effect. The doctor is practically killing themself by reviving someone- you can't argue against that in good faith. And so despite what you may think the purpose would be, they still are both trading with someone, and that delay being delayed- losing a vote and discussion in the current cycle. I think we havent put any pressure on elims because of how dead this cycle has been. I'll look more when I get on my computer but tbh I'm just not feeling up to it rn.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Archer (2): Quinn, Devotary Exp (2): Matrim, Jondesu Illwei (1): Szeth Tani (1): Gears Jondesu (1): TJ TJ (1): Illwei It looks like I won't be around for rollover, so reminder that everybody dies in a tie and it would be easy for Mat or Jondesu to make sure six people die today if nobody else votes. I think a teammate would have informed elim!Jondesu that the rules about codes had changed. It's not worth trying to convince Illwei that an extra vote and action every cycle for the rest of the game is worth one missed vote and action. Seems too stubborn for an elim. TJ reads like the Agent between mentioning that repaired parts have to be re-improved and suggesting that the Agent wouldn't have to be killed immediately if found. Wouldn't bet a lot on this. I don't think Experience has really done anything worth killing, probably should have taken another look. Tani's polling thing is strange and not something I recall from previous games. I don't remember if she's ever been evil before. Apparently she has in QF 52. Not a fan in general of people saying they're obviously village. Not definitely evil though. Probably vote for Archer out of everyone. Mostly for saying things without giving opinions on people. Giving action suggestions, implying that the elim kill was blocked, wanting to make sure everyone knows who's visiting the hospital. This vote feels not entirely right but oh well.
Quivil Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) Hi! I'm alive again! How much time do we have left? @DeTess Ok I found one thing on page 2 I want to address. On 5/9/2021 at 3:55 AM, |TJ| said: I'm reading Tani as the Agent right now, though I don't see any reason to kill her over it until we see an uptick in the no. of improved parts. 1. Thanks. That's so nice of you to provide the Agent with an easy opportunity to frame me. 2. I'm not the Agent. If I were the Agent, why would I want to ask a question that helps the Engineers? I'd just quietly not draw attention to it. Edit: @Quintessential can you scan me? I think I trust your vil-ness and wish for confirmation of mine. Edited May 10, 2021 by Tani
Quintessential she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tani said: Edit: @Quintessential can you scan me? I think I trust your vil-ness and wish for confirmation of mine. I won't be announcing beforehand whom I'm scanning, and I won't be taking suggestions. Though, given that I have no clue how to read you, I'll probably end up scanning you at some point if I survive long enough to do so : P (there are about 4 hrs 15 minutes left in the cycle) Also @DeTess and @StrikerEZ, if I were to scan the Agent, what would their role show up as? And their alignment, if I scanned a second time?
Archer he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: This vote feels not entirely right but oh well. Good instincts. :P. I'm not an elim 56 minutes ago, Quintessential said: Also @DeTess and @StrikerEZ, if I were to scan the Agent, what would their role show up as? And their alignment, if I scanned a second time? They'd show up as an engineer
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Quintessential said: Also @DeTess and @StrikerEZ, if I were to scan the Agent, what would their role show up as? And their alignment, if I scanned a second time? Their role would show up as an engineer, then their alignment would show as the Agent. Also, a reminder for everyone that there are just under 1.5 hours left! Make sure to get your actions and votes in! EDIT: Just to be clear: this is not a confirmation that Quinn is indeed an Investigator. And neither is this statement a confirmation she isn’t an Investigator. Edited May 10, 2021 by StrikerEZ
Biplet she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: Archer (2): Quinn, Devotary Exp (2): Matrim, Jondesu Illwei (1): Szeth Tani (1): Gears Jondesu (1): TJ TJ (1): Illwei Couple of thoughts on this: I haven't noticed anything uncharacteristic from Illwei. I know there were points brought up about her tone + what she said about the doctor, but that just feels like Illwei's general musings and tone in these games. I'm reading her barely village, which tends to be my read of her early on usually. Except, uh, she's been an elim both games I've played with her. Granted, last time she was my teammate XD Tani is Tani. Honestly, I don't find them suspicious. Their sporadic polling and tone just reads as general Tani chaos. Not sure why TJ is suspicious. Agree with Quinn. Can't remember why Exp was voted on in C1. I know I asked about it earlier, but as the cycle has gone on I've been less and less suspicious of Exp. I just can't find a reason this cycle to vote for them. Wasn't the original vote on Archer because he was quiet? He's posted since that og vote from Quinn, unless that's not her only reason and I'm misreading. I agree with some of Devotary's reasoning though. The only strong opinion I see from Archer is about Gears' word choice, which was much appreciated but nothing huge. I have no strong opinions, but I do strongly fear a tie. I disagree that tied deaths could be beneficial to us in the beginning, because it puts pressure on the elims. What if we exe two villagers, and the elims get their kill, and suddenly we have three deaths a day in a 15ish player game? This game would be over before it really gets started. Archer. The reasoning against him isn't perfect, but it's better than the others, and I don't want a tie. Quick additional thought: no one's addressed that the agent didn't improve anything C1. That's weird, so I'm bringing it up. Why didn't the agent do anything?
Quintessential she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Biplet said: Wasn't the original vote on Archer because he was quiet? He's posted since that og vote from Quinn, unless that's not her only reason and I'm misreading. I agree with some of Devotary's reasoning though. The only strong opinion I see from Archer is about Gears' word choice, which was much appreciated but nothing huge. Yeah, the original point was to get him to say something, but what he did say felt like... well, basically I also agree with Devo xD generally, Archer posts very little per cycle in terms of number of posts, but his posts are high-density, quality analysis (or RP), so it's impossible to forget he's in the game and most people count him as being on roughly the same level of activity as players like me/Mat/Illwei. This game, though, I was looking at the player list and was like "wait Archer's playing???" And honestly his response hasn't really changed that. 12 minutes ago, Biplet said: Quick additional thought: no one's addressed that the agent didn't improve anything C1. That's weird, so I'm bringing it up. Why didn't the agent do anything? Agent may have improved the same part that the elims sabotaged, or may have improved a part that an engineer targeted, or may be inactive.
Biplet she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Quintessential said: Yeah, the original point was to get him to say something, but what he did say felt like... well, basically I also agree with Devo xD generally, Archer posts very little per cycle in terms of number of posts, but his posts are high-density, quality analysis (or RP), so it's impossible to forget he's in the game Okay lol, completely fair. Thanks for explaining!! 3 minutes ago, Quintessential said: Agent may have improved the same part that the elims sabotaged, or may have improved a part that an engineer targeted, or may be inactive. Oh shoot I need to reread agent rules. I didn’t realize that the agent improving the part the engineer targeted would make it not work.
Quintessential she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biplet said: Oh shoot I need to reread agent rules. I didn’t realize that the agent improving the part the engineer targeted would make it not work. Well, I think that's how it works lol I know that engineers and sabotages can both mess with improvements, but idk whether it would work if they were both in the same turn... yeah.
|TJ| he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 21 hours ago, Jondesu said: First, I’m not familiar with Gears and this trend, though of course it’s been mentioned now several times, but I have caught Elims in previous games (and IRL Mafia games) with similar admissions, so to a degree I don’t care if they’ve made it a play style. In fact, it’s a style I find problematic and would prefer to discourage. There’s nothing opportunistic about that. Edit: it comes very close to gamethrowing, in my opinion. Opportunistic as in voting for someone is a very easy reason to vote on someone without raising suspicion, and elims have voted on Gears claiming elim before because he claimed elim. But your posts since this post gives me strong gut village vibes, Jondesu. 5 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: TJ reads like the Agent between mentioning that repaired parts have to be re-improved and suggesting that the Agent wouldn't have to be killed immediately if found. Wouldn't bet a lot on this. C'monnn I'd be a lot more happier and chirpy if I was the Agent :P. And probably accept bid on parts to improve :P. 4 hours ago, Tani said: 1. Thanks. That's so nice of you to provide the Agent with an easy opportunity to frame me. Frame you how? :P. 26 minutes ago, Biplet said: Quick additional thought: no one's addressed that the agent didn't improve anything C1. That's weird, so I'm bringing it up. Why didn't the agent do anything? Reading Illwei as Agent too, and this would fit the profile :P. Exp was online 2 hrs ago, so I'm thinking he took a visit to Hospital without fully knowing the consequences? Or something? Not sure why he wouldn't defend himself if he could. Don't really have strong reads on any other than Quinn, Jon and slightly on Szeth. Elim side of things - everything about Mat looks super off to me. Archer was a very proactive elim in the Marson and not convinced talking less is an alignment indicative. Mat, particularly the defence of Illwei. Feels like my teammate Mat from QF51 :P.
DeTess she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Author Posted May 10, 2021 This cycle is closed, stand by for the next one!
DeTess she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Author Posted May 10, 2021 Cycle 3 "So I've got good news and bad news." Praza reported to the captain, before immediately regretting her wording as the man shot her a venomous glare. "Out with it." the captain growled. "Ah, well, there was an accident while loading up food stuffs in the cargo bay. One of the ropes snapped, and one of our tribal guides, 'Second of the Passing Wind', got crushed. The doctors tell me he'll live, but it'll be a good while before eh's ready for duty again." Thanks tot he seriousness of the news, Praza even managed to keep a straight face while mentioning the victims name. "Also, someone got into the laboratory and set off a small explosive. No structural damage to the ship, but every glass object got smashed and a lot of chemicals leaked out. Frankly, we're lucky no one was working there at the time or they'd have ended up in the hospital as well." "And the good news?" the captain asked, impatiently. "The bit about no one being in the laboratory to get hurt was the good news." Praza admitted. "Though there's one curious bit. In their search for whoever messed up your quarters, the crew accused another one of the islanders, 'First of the Red Dawn'. Apparently he was seen in all of the wrong places. Before I could call in the constables though, the islander set off some kind of smoke bomb and ran. The crew chased him, but couldn't catch him. In fact, they claim he ran in four different directions at once, if you can believe it. He hasn't been seen since." "So we caught one of the saboteurs. I'd call that good news." Praza shook her head. "We searched his gear, and though there where some suspicious things among them, there was no sign of any connection to the SICS. However..." the chief engineer put several tools in front of the captain. "These are part of his tool set. They might not look that unusual, but they're from a lighter alloy than the tools of the rest of my engineers, and they're a lot better made too. They're pretty much flawless, with little signs of wear either. The only ones I know off that can make tools like these are the Ones Above." "Hmmmm." the captain grumbled. "That's interesting, but it doesn't get us any closer to catching the saboteurs. Tell the crew to stop slacking about and identify the culprits, or I'll just fire them all and start over again fresh." *** Archer has been arrested. He was the agent of the one's above Jondesu is hospitalized. He is an engineer. The laboratory was sabotaged. The ship's search-lights spotted Devotary loitering around Aviar Holding Area Currently sabotaged parts: The captain's quarters The laboratory improved part count: 0 players: Illwei Matrim's Dice as Philico Gears as Roko the Basilisk in the aspect of Fourth of the Dark Random Bystander Tani as Tevris Azmine_king Devotary of Spontaneity as 36th of the Tundra, who hopes to bring the secrets of airship travel back to their nomadic community so she can help them with future moves. The Unknown Order Village engineer Experience as Zara Sart as Fourth of Legend Szeth_Pancakes |TJ| as Sixth of Shade Archer as First of the Red Dawn, whose defining character trait is that he is ridiculously unlucky. the agent of the one's above Biplet Jondesu as Second of the Passing Wind, engineer (hospitalized) Quintessential Vote tally: Archer (3): Quinn, Devotary, Biplet Exp (2): Matrim, Jondesu Illwei (1): Szeth Tani (1): Gears Matrim(1): TJ TJ (1): Illwei 4
Quintessential she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Well that's a better outcome than a misexe, anyway. Any Doctors out there may wanna visit the hospital this cycle to save Jon. Engineers--if there are any left, that is--might wanna target the laboratory, so that we can get Biologist scans up and running for future elim kills.
Azmine_king Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Nothing interesting happened the first two cycles so no big post, I don't know if there were more than the one neutral but if not that's good we don't have to worry about them anymore.
Experience he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: @Experience did you visit the hospital yesterday? No, really sorry about not responding. I was extremely busy over the weekend with track and mothers day, so I wasn't able to get on the shard at all. I wasn't in the hospital, just life. So... I'm guessing someone roleblocked archer the first cycle, because they were active? Let me go read through C2 real quick. Might not be able to respond until tonight, so sorry if that happens.
Biplet she/her Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Well, heyo, there goes the Agent. That happened fast. 1
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Experience said: I wasn't in the hospital, just life. I think he meant in the game.
Mat he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Szeth_Pancakes said: I think he meant in the game. I think Exp knows that? Not sure now though
Illwei Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 There have been 7 posts this cycle, and about half are a form of "welp, theres the agent" I gotta be honest, this was my first idea for a post, soni cant really blame them :P. Assuming 4 elims, we're at 9 - 4 right now. I honestly think that the elims werent pressured yesterday, because of how minimal discussion there was. TJ
Mat he/him Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: I honestly think that the elims werent pressured yesterday, because of how minimal discussion there was. Does that mean you’re soft clearing all the candidates yesterday? :P. I guess that’s just you and Exp who was inactive
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 I’m going to vote Illwei right now for the reasons I mentioned in C2. This could definitely change once I get a better read on... basically anyone else, but I think for now, Illwei is the most suspicious.
Illwei Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Does that mean you’re soft clearing all the candidates yesterday? :P. I guess that’s just you and Exp who was inactive No. ...maybe? just the vote was so spread out and ties kill all. And there was still so little discussion.
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