Long Game 72: The Secret of Shinovar

[Araris Valerian he/him]

3 minutes ago, Ookla the Larkin said:

They’ve continued to call me elim with little to no evidence

We have no evidence that anyone is an elim at this point. You made a post that I find suspicious, so I'm voting for you. I'd be able to get more suspicions if more people were actually contributing to the game.

[Condensation she/her]

I wish people would post more.

You know, we could encourage posting by lynching more inactive people. But that'd probably just be stupid, ignore me.

[Quintessential she/her]

4 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

We have no evidence that anyone is an elim at this point. You made a post that I find suspicious, so I'm voting for you. I'd be able to get more suspicions if more people were actually contributing to the game.

 

23 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

This doesn't make me want to vote for Ventyl.

I'm confused... are you voting for Ventyl or aren't you?

[Ashbringer he/him]

Eh... don't really have time for a full vote count unfortunately.

 

Furamirionind (5)

Ookla the Grammatical (2)

Lotus (1)

Ookla the Hypodecadal (1)

[+JesterLavorre she/they]

OK, so my thoughts are this:

• I’m still not 100% sure of Connie, but Matrim seems to trust them, and for the reasons given by others, it’s very likely May is village.
• I also read Fura as village, but their lynch could give us good information, as they’ve been relatively active the past rounds.

Something in the back of my head whispers that this is some sort of elim scheme by a Quinn, Mat, and Connie team, but that’s highly unlikely.

So, I’m going to vote Fura. It’s not a bad lynch, and I don’t want Connie to die.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

7 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

 

I'm confused... are you voting for Ventyl or aren't you?

My vote is on Lotus. I'm just uncomfortable that as soon as I vote on Lotus, she's willing to jump on the other person I've mentioned.

[Quintessential she/her]

3 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

My vote is on Lotus. I'm just uncomfortable that as soon as I vote on Lotus, she's willing to jump on the other person I've mentioned.

But you just responded to Ventyl saying you were voting for them.... 

[Eternum he/him]

I trust Mat just as much as the next person, but just because he's village does not mean he is right, and I don't like how many people are voting Fura just for this reason. It's absolutely not good enough, imo. I think Fura's village, and I really don't like this lynch. Quinn/Connie seems extremely likely to me now.

So, I'm going to follow my hunch and vote Quinn.

[Quintessential she/her]

Heyyyy who upvoted the post where Eternum said I was sus? : P

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

43 minutes ago, Flyingbooks42 said:

I haven't really been paying much attention this cycle because I've been very busy with finals stuff, so I'm not really sure about which of the 2 current top lynches (Fura or Connie) I feel more suspicious of. I trust Matrim, so I guess I won't vote for Connie. I guess I'd be fine with a Fura lynch, since even though I'm not really reading them as elim, I'm not reading them as village either and I trust that people who are more experienced and/or better at reading people than me are better at picking up on subtle clues than I am. I might also be willing to join a Ventyl lynch since that vote manipulation was pretty suspicious, but it was sort-of confirmed that Kaladin didn't do the vote removal on Ventyl, which decreases my suspicions of them. I'll see what state the vote is in when I come back closer to the end of the cycle and then decide who I want to vote for.

This is sus to me. Adds next to no content and over explains a (reluctant) vote on me... which I was assuming was going to be made... But instead they are pushing their vote off to later... Another thing elims like to do.

41 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

This doesn't make me want to vote for Ventyl.

same... It's weird my reads list is literally the same as Araris's on the previous page. Was unsure about Araris, but either I'm so incredibly misguided that I have the same reads as an Elim, or we're both village... I'm more inclined to think the second.

31 minutes ago, Ookla the Larkin said:

I mean most likely Ishar who adhesioned me. Also @Ookla Fell From The Sky, can we get a vote count?

Ishar did not adhesion anyone.

9 minutes ago, Ookla the Sprinkle said:

OK, so my thoughts are this:

• I’m still not 100% sure of Connie, but Matrim seems to trust them, and for the reasons given by others, it’s very likely May is village.
• I also read Fura as village, but their lynch could give us good information, as they’ve been relatively active the past rounds.

Something in the back of my head whispers that this is some sort of elim scheme by a Quinn, Mat, and Connie team, but that’s highly unlikely.

So, I’m going to vote Fura. It’s not a bad lynch, and I don’t want Connie to die.

Alright. So just going to throw out there that I'm pretty sure Connie dying gives far more information than me dying. You say you don't know about Connie, yet you're going to vote on someone you are sure about? That's not village behavior. 

Mat is probably village, but not mechanically confirmed. Let's be careful not to unconditionally trust him.

Also... villagers can be wrong or pocketed... Just going to throw that out there as people seem to be saying we need to assume Mat's information/reads are correct. 

Oh, ninja's by Eternum saying the same thing. Lol. If either Eturnum or Araris turn out to be an elim... Well... I guess I must be more out of practice than I thought.

Since for some reason again Connie isn't on the table to be lynched, I'll switch my vote to Sprinkle, and I'll see who becomes a viable lynch target later.

Also not a big fan about how the train on me started with someone voting on me because I suspect them, and then a bunch of people sheeping. I normally don't criticize my own trains, but this doesn't feel village to me.

Connie

Sprinkle

[Eternum he/him]

11 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

Heyyyy who upvoted the post where Eternum said I was sus? : P

I wonder

Alright, the more I look at this Fura train the weirder it gets. I'm fine with lynching literally most of these people, as none of these votes make sense. The most suspicious ones are, imo, Quinn and Sprinkle: Quinn votes essentially just to protect Connie, and Sprinkle just says "mat's village so mat's right, fura's also probably village and this could be an elim scheme but I'm still going to vote them" and beyond even the flimsy reasoning behind the vote itself it's pretty evident why I really don't like it.

So, I suppose I'll join Fura. Quinn

Ookla the Sprinkle.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Real Vote Count!

• Furamirionind (6): Quinn0928, Ookla's Dice / Matrim's Dice, Ookla the Larkin / Ventyl, Ookla the Grammatical / Condensation, Ookla who goes DORIYAH!! / Vasher 212, Ookla the Sprinkle / JesterLavorre
• Ookla the Sprinkle / JesterLavorre (2): Furamirionind, Eternum
• Ookla the Grammatical / Condensation (1): STINK
• Lotus (1): Ookla the Araris Valerian / Araris Valerian
• Ookla the Hypodecadal / Devotary of Spontaneity (1): Alvron

[STINK he/him]

So we're not lynching quinn yet?

also what even is the reasoning for Fura here are they just not in the PM circle

[Mat he/him]

Ok, the more the Fura lynch picked up the more I disliked it. My initial vote wasn't meant to be permanent and I certainly didn't expect it to snowball into this. I think it's mildly amusing that my suggestion has been in the frontlines all three day cycles. As someone already said, just cause I'm village doesn't mean I'm right...

I'll follow onto Jester/Sprinkle. They seemed the most bandwagony of the Fura votes (and I trust most of the other Fura voters) and I'm decently sure there are elims on that train as my suspicion on Fura wasn't that well founded in the first place.

[Eternum he/him]

....You know what. Sorry, Ash, Elandera.

Stink, if you want to lynch Quinn, I'm here for it.

In PMs, Quinn mentioned they may have information I don't, unless I know who killed TJ or who has Shalash's Blade (paraphrased).

See, I do know who killed TJ. And I do know it wasn't the elims. The problem is, how would Quinn know that?

I'm writing this fully expecting the response to be that they were jokingly wondering whether or not I knew which one the elim kill was, but in that case it wouldn't have been phrased as "who killed TJ", no? 

For those who are wondering if I'm willing to vote someone for what might be a genuine Freudian slip?

Yes. Yes I am.

Jester.

Quinn

Edited December 12, 2020 by Eternum

[Quintessential she/her]

4 minutes ago, Ookla's Dice said:

Ok, the more the Fura lynch picked up the more I disliked it. My initial vote wasn't meant to be permanent and I certainly didn't expect it to snowball into this. I think it's mildly amusing that my suggestion has been in the frontlines all three day cycles. As someone already said, just cause I'm village doesn't mean I'm right...

I'll follow onto Jester/Sprinkle. They seemed the most bandwagony of the Fura votes (and I trust most of the other Fura voters) and I'm decently sure there are elims on that train as my suspicion on Fura wasn't that well founded in the first place.

Okay Fura Jester/Sprinkle I feel much better about this lynch, since I actually read Jester as elim whereas I was only voting Fura to protect Connie.

[STINK he/him]

Connie.

Quinn

Let's goooooo

[Quintessential she/her]

5 minutes ago, Eternum said:

....You know what. Sorry, Ash, Elandera.

Stink, if you want to lynch Quinn, I'm here for it.

In PMs, Quinn mentioned they may have information I don't, unless I know who killed TJ or who has Shalash's Blade (paraphrased).

See, I do know who killed TJ. And I do know it wasn't the elims. The problem is, how would Quinn know that?

Hah, go back and reread that message please Eternum. I said that because you don't know where Chanarach's Blade and Vedel's Blade started, I have information you don't. I then said that the only information you have that I don't is where Shalash's Blade started, unless you knew where TJ's Blade would end up. You had implied earlier in our PMs that you knew where Shalash's Blade started.

[Ookla-son-son-Ventyl]

6 minutes ago, Eternum said:

....You know what. Sorry, Ash, Elandera.

Stink, if you want to lynch Quinn, I'm here for it.

In PMs, Quinn mentioned they may have information I don't, unless I know who killed TJ or who has Shalash's Blade (paraphrased).

See, I do know who killed TJ. And I do know it wasn't the elims. The problem is, how would Quinn know that?

I'm writing this fully expecting the response to be that they were jokingly wondering whether or not I knew which one the elim kill was, but in that case it wouldn't have been phrased as "who killed TJ", no? 

For those who are wondering if I'm willing to vote someone for what might be a genuine Freudian slip?

Yes. Yes I am.

Jester.

Quinn

I’m not sure if like this switch on to Quinn. I think basing your argument off of something that was a mistake is not great.

[Quintessential she/her]

Just now, Ookla the Larkin said:

I’m not sure if like this switch on to Quinn. I think basing your argument off of something that was a mistake is not great.

Also the mistake is Eternum's. Like I just said, he apparently misread my message. Or is misquoting it on purpose.

[+JesterLavorre she/they]

Here was my reasoning in detail, do with it what you will: I’m not sure on Connie, Fura, or Quinn. Mat I’m pretty sure is village, but I still don’t know for sure. Fura had Mat’s vote, which I thought was a good sign, and also was the only one who looked like they had a chance of getting voted off. Quinn had only 0 or 1 votes, if I remember correctly.

[Quintessential she/her]

I will not be on again until after rollover. @Eternum please look back through your PM with me and reread more carefully. I will be incredibly mad if I come back and find that I've been lynched because of a misunderstanding.

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

9 minutes ago, Ookla the Larkin said:

I’m not sure if like this switch on to Quinn. I think basing your argument off of something that was a mistake is not great.

If Eturnum's interpretation of Quinn's mistake was correct, that is a mistake that can justify a lynch. It is indirectly claiming elim.

The game after my championship game on MU had a player that posted in the main thread something along the lines of, "Great job [elim name] misdirecting [villager name]. I think we should kill [villager name] next".
This is also a mistake. One that is also lynchable. (just more overt)

Granted if he misread then obviously it's not lynchable lol.

Edit:

1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said:

I will not be on again until after rollover. @Eternum please look back through your PM with me and reread more carefully. I will be incredibly mad if I come back and find that I've been lynched because of a misunderstanding.

Please remember to only use blue text for out of game talking. What if Eturnum is an elim and trying to use that to mislynch you?

Edited December 13, 2020 by Furamirionind

[Eternum he/him]

Misquoting it on purpose? I could be an idiot, but I'm not malevolent :P

7 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

Hah, go back and reread that message please Eternum. I said that because you don't know where Chanarach's Blade and Vedel's Blade started, I have information you don't. I then said that the only information you have that I don't is where Shalash's Blade started, unless you knew where TJ's Blade would end up. You had implied earlier in our PMs that you knew where Shalash's Blade started.

That's what I meant, though I realize now I wasn't being too clear as I wrote that post in a hurry.

However, I find it very interesting that you're completely omitting the part about mentioning "who killed TJ". Sure, it's my word against yours, but if you were village you wouldn't be worried about correctly recalling the things you've said in PMs

[Mat he/him]

...For some reason I thought rollover was now :P.

Edited December 13, 2020 by Ookla's Dice