Long Game 35: L35 Miserables

[little wilson she/her]

Oh, I have things I could add. Will I? Depends.

Hey, Len. Why are you village? I'd like to hear what village things you've done this game so far.

 

Yes, this is me pulling an Awa. Troll!Wilson is coming out. : P

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Len's post about Stick does make a lot of sense, but I'm still not as suspicious of her as I am Flash. Even though he's been partially inactive every now and then for real life reasons, this entire game he's just been riding the coattails of other players' suspicions without making very many of his own. And the few he has made seem to be mostly gut reads with very little explanation. I know he's said that he's trying to play less aggressively and excitedly as he did in LG34, but that just feels like the perfect excuse for an elim to try and hide from suspicion and appear to be a villager that is just hopping around with their suspicions because they don't know what they're doing. 

EDIT: If Stick is lynched and turns out to be village, I don't think that would incriminate Len all that much. Len seems like too good of a player to risk doing a super long post like that just to get the village to lynch someone. If Stick turns out elim, than I think that basically clears Len, because I doubt any elim would go through that much trouble to bus a teammate that could potentially be saved.

Of course, I'd much rather lynch Flash, who I'm getting a strong elim vibe from.

Edited July 7, 2017 by StrikerEZ

[Stick. she/her]

1 hour ago, Elenion said:

First vote down is Joe trying to shake things up by voting Jondesu.

Stick is hesitant to vote, but says that if she does then it would be on Rand--important for later.

Crimsn and Orlok suddenly change their votes to Jon, and now the votes stand at (my own calculation, with added colors--not votes)

(4) randuir: Straw, Yitzi2, The Flash, Jondesu, 

(4) Yitzi2: The Mighty Lopen, Amanuensis, Seonid, BrightnessRadiant, 

(4) Straw: STINK, Araris Valerian, Elenion, asterion137, 

(1) A Joe in the Bush: randuir,

(4) Jondesu: Arraenae, Joe, Crimsn, Orlok

(1) Shqueeves: Paranoid King

We now have a 4-way tie for the lynch.

Then, Stick jumps in and votes for Jon instead of Rand, even though she said she'd probably vote for Rand eariler. She makes no mention of Rand in her posts.

And here comes BR with the clincher. She retracts from Yitzi and votes on Jon, making it Jon 6, Rand 4, Straw 4, Yitzi 3. This is what gets Yitzi out of danger.

Alright first, I totally expected someone to bring this up against me and was kinda wondering why anyone hasn't done that yet. 

All this(the quoted bit)happened in like 2 seconds. When there were like 3 minutes for the turn to end. Wasn't really up for lynching Straw, Rand or Yitzi, none of them had done things that seemed very suspicious to me. Okay, so I guess I'll try to explain why I voted Jond. A part of me was actually tempted to leave it to a tie. In the last minute, the lynch on Jond just...seemed better than the other three because I thought that lynches D1 rarely get elims, like they manage to get out if one way to the other (though I guess this theory's flop now since we almost got Yitzi D1), and if the lynch targets changes like that, especially when it's changed like that by a neutral, elim teammates cant do much to steer the lynch away can they? Besides, how can you not join a bandwagon like that? Not everyday that you wake up to a CFD (I'd just woken up). Also, if elim!stick wanted to save a teammate, she could've just voted along on any of the two village wagons. If I were an elim and had voted on Straw, I'm pretty sure I would've gotten away with it because no everyone had pretty much the same reasons for voting Straw. And I explained I said I'd vote on Rand out of the three here:

And this:

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As a villager, Stick's move makes less sense, because at least in my experience as a villager on around turnover I don't usually completely change my suspicions at the last second.

That's the thing. I wasn't really suspicious of anyone. The post I linked above explains that, iirc

1 hour ago, Elenion said:

Analysis of the last bit: I think there was at least one elim involved in the last-minute shenanigans, because the elims would definitely not have wanted to lose one of their own D1. The real movers and shakers of that last bit were Joe, who started the Jon wagon; Stick, who put Jon in the lead for the lynch; and BR, who took Yitzi out of immediate danger. I'm not thinking BR was the elim, because elims usually don't like to retract votes from teammates at the last second. It's something that's too easily seen as suspicious, so I'm thinking an elim BR would have just stood by and let Stick shift the vote. Orlok, of course, is neutral and nobody has counterclaimed Convict's Ward, so he's out of the picture. That leaves us with Stick, and I find her suspicious for a number of reasons

Why did you leave out Crimsn?

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She's been around but hasn't mentioned Yitzi much, which might be an effort to prevent the two from being associated.

Okay how am I supposed to defend my self against this, even. I'm sure I've talked about him, but didn't analyse his posts, yes. There's lots of payers whose posts I haven't analysed.

I was going to change my vote to Aster because I thought I didn't have enough evidence against you, but I'm not so sure now. Though I'm still considering it. @asterion137 what are your thoughts on this?

Edit: ninjad a lot 

@The Flash what are your reasons for voting Cloud?

edit2:

Vote tally:

(1)STINK: Ecth

(1)Ecth: Dalinar

(3)Len: Araris, Stick, Wilson

(1)Stick: Len

(1)Cloud: Flash

(1)Flash: Striker

@Ecthelion III You didn't remove your vote from Stink, did you?

Edited July 7, 2017 by _Stick_

[Ecthelion III he/him]

@_Stick_ Sorry, I'm bad with terminology and abbreviations etc... what is CFD? Google says it's Computational Fluid Dynamics but I'm pretty sure that's not it unless you woke up to a lot of homework

[little wilson she/her]

Chinese Fire Drill. Slang from Mafia Universe and the championship.

[Stick. she/her]

@Ecthelion III Chinese Fire Drill XD The sudden change of the lynch target.

[Ecthelion III he/him]

That's right, I meant to but forgot...[ STINK ]

[Elenion he/him]

19 minutes ago, little wilson said:

Oh, I have things I could add. Will I? Depends.

Hey, Len. Why are you village? I'd like to hear what village things you've done this game so far.

 

What is "pulling an Awa?"

In-thread I haven't done much until now, but I've done some work behind the scenes with my role. I'll tell you more when PMs are open.

[little wilson she/her]

Awa is a delightful player from Championship Game 11 (not Aman's game). He's my new role model.

[Stick. she/her]

1 minute ago, little wilson said:

Awa is a delightful player from Championship Game 11 (not Aman's game). He's my new role model.

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

Okay I'm finally back... I feel really bad about leaving this game pretty much for a few days, but I've been crazy busy irl and had zero motivation to go and read through the entire game thread again. Plus, I had almost zero time heh.

So, gonna do some reading now....

I'm kinda curious why we've dropped the "lynching asterion" discussion we've had so far this game? Aman never said he wasn't suspicious of him anymore did he? As far as I remember Asterion was still one of his top suspicions. And mine too. I suppose I could always link to my analysis of him from a previous cycle and place my vote there while I do a little more research. asterion

Analysis on Asterion

[Arraenae]

Okay, I've looked over Len's posts.

He says he voted on Straw because he wasn't Joe, Stink asked him to, and because he was going offline soon. Not a lot of strong reasons there. Only the second reason is unique to Strae and can't be applied to others.

Len talks about his activity and says he wants Straw lynched over Rand. Then he defends Rand, in a move that feels a lot like pocketing.

Then Len says that he'll be more active when players start dying. He votes on Yitzi because Aman voted on Yitzi, and it feels like an elim catching onto a villager's coattails. At this point, Len might have thought that Yitzi was doomed. Stick said that Len voted 9th on Yitzi, I think, so this could be an elim piling on his teammate to avoid questions of "Why didn't you vote on him?"

Len goes silent for a long while.

Len says that leverage by itself isn't bad and SE is all about leverage. I kind of agree, but his example kind of misrepresents leverage/makes light of it. It's hard to explain.

Then he says PMs =/= info.

I have a slight elim gut read, because he's done some things that could be pocketing or piling to avoid suspicion.Len.

[Stick. she/her]

Vote tally (probably correct):

(1)Ecth: Dalinar

(4)Len: Araris, Stick, Wilson, Rae

(1)Stick: Len

(1)Cloud: Flash

(2)Flash: Striker, Ecth

(1)Aster: BR

Hm.

9 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said:

I'm kinda curious why we've dropped the "lynching asterion" discussion we've had so far this game? Aman never said he wasn't suspicious of him anymore did he? As far as I remember Asterion was still one of his top suspicions. And mine too. I suppose I could always link to my analysis of him from a previous cycle and place my vote there while I do a little more research. asterion

Analysis on Asterion

I haven't exactly dropped the idea of voting on him, but Im waiting for him to come online before I do anything. But it's past 2am and I have to sleep soon so I don't really know...eh. 

 My analysis on Aster, I guess.

[Steeldancer he/him]

3 hours ago, Ecthelion III said:

Elenion are you trying to kill all discussion by killing Stick? She's about the most focused and prolific player at this point.

Yes, I honestly don't think Brightness Radiant is evil because it would have seemed too obvious if she had switched her vote at the last minute to save teammate!Yitzi on purpose. You do make an interesting point about Stick.

Flash, you said "I've seen [Cloudjumper] lurking previously but not saying anything, which is different than how he played in the last game." I don't necessarily agree with this; the last few games I've played with him that's exactly how he's been. Same with Elenion, that's usually how he is until he wallposts about this time every game. Also, if you are village, we would learn more from killing you than someone who has been very lurky like Cloudjumper.

That's not what I remember. I remember cloudjumper often joining in discussion in LG34. But here he's just said... nothing. Also what would you plan on learning from me? 

Also I admit I was riding on coattails the first day, but I must have explained this 20 times: I was busy and there was a massive thread on day 1. I have been developing my own suspicions over the past few days, as I've had more time to ponder the thread. Now my suspicions haven't actually born fruit at all, but that doesn't make me an elim. Sooner or later I'll hopefully find an elim with my analysis. I have a gut read on Cloudjumper. I'm going to stick to it. I learned to trust my gut reads in LG34 when against all reasoning, Brightness turned out to be an elim, like my gut told me. Also I'm not going to return to an aggressive play style just to prove I'm a village. Even that one time that I challenged Yitzi about elims being afraid of Aman, I felt nervous that that was too aggressive (and for some reason, aman thought that cleared me). I could be more aggressive here in my defense, but I won't be, lest I say something I shouldn't. Suffice it to say that I've been at least doing my best to contribute. 

Edited July 7, 2017 by The Flash

[Arraenae]

@The Flash, a little aggression is fine. It's always good to point things out, because other players might not have caught it.

@cloudjumper, hello? Are you paying attention? What reads do you have?

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

*starts amazing music playlist cuz there's no way I'm drudging through this lengthy game thread without a little happiness 

Analysis on Stick first: (not doing all of her posts, just the things that throw out red flags)

1. The first thing that seems strange to me is her post where she says it's strange that people are being voted on for how many pms they made, but then she later edits her post to say that the group pm thing IS a little suspicious. (this just stands out to me a little as a possible view for an elim to take if they want to cast suspicion on a villager without actually looking suspicious of them)

2. She later says this:

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But then, the more I think about it, and after reading the others' posts, Straw does seem a little suspicious, however normal his behaviour may look. 

Which sounds a little strange... @_Stick_ why did you say you thought he seemed suspicious if his behavior looked normal to you? (looks a little like an elim trying not to be too "sure" of a player's alignment)

3. This was in response to Straw's revelation that he'd gotten a pm from Joe saying that he would help him if he was an elim:

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huh wow seems contradictory to what Joe's first post said. Let's see what Joe has to say about this, first though. Curious. He could be trying to confirm if you're an elim by seeing if you do confess to being one. But then, I don't think an elim would do that, really. Hm.

I'm a little confused why you would say this about Joe not doing this were he an elim, when it was apparent from this that he was a neutral? What I'm trying to say I guess is: Were you suspicious of Joe being an elim before this?

4. This was in response to Yitzi day one: (talking about always hitting a villager on day one)

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That only happens because even if we do start pointing fingers at one of the elims, their teammates make sure they don't get lynched by suggesting another lynch target, which is fairly easy to get away with on D1s as no-one's really sure of anything yet

This did kind of seem to have happened....actually you personally helped to save Yitzi by switching to Jon. (So did I, but there was a plan in the works to break the tie in favor of lynching Yitzi(in pms) until Joe suggested lynching Jon so I moved over there instead because I was more suspicious of Jon at that point.)

5. When you found out that PK made the weird group pms instead of Straw(and that was your basis for being suspicious of Straw) then why weren't you suspicious of PK for the same reasons? (Was he an elim teammate? )

6. You said you would probably break the tie in favor of Rand, but then voted Jon instead...why? (You probably could've still gotten Rand lynched Day 1 if you wanted because of how close the votes were. In fact it was your vote that put the Jon lynch over.) You said you'd just read Aman's post about Jon, but what post were you referring to exactly? I couldn't find any post Aman made about Jon exactly other than him saying that last minute reaction votes tend to be more pure.

7. This post from Night one:

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Last turn was crazy, catching up with 6 pages+throbbing head+3 mins left+phone ran out of charge+scrambling to get my tablet played a part in why I didn't really give an explanation for sayin I'd vote Rand over Straw or Yitzi. It was mostly [apart from the vote on joe] because I thought figuring out Rand's alignment would give us more useful info than the others. And like, I wasn't that suspicious of Yitzi, but well...Could we have a seeker scan him tonight? Straw's lynch would've given us like zero info, whether he flipped elim or village. I guess it would make me a bit wary about Yitzi; he had subtly defended Straw last cycle, iirc. But yeah. Rand alignment wouldve made me certain of what to think of Aman, for exmple, though I'm leaning village rn. And he expressed suspicion on Straw too, I think, so we couldve gotten something out of that? Hm. I should probably read Rand's elim game, I think. LG30, was it?

why would lynching Straw day 1 not have given us any info? You seemed a lot more interested in finding out Aman's alignment than Yitzi's. Is there a reason for this? Especially since you seemed to have voted on Jon on the previous cycle due to something Aman said which seems like you were already leaning village on him. So, then why would you have been more interested in finding out Aman's alignment than Yitzi's?

8. This post from Day 2? (I think lolz)

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So is everyone voting on Aster now? I suppose it does make the most sense, and seems more promising than lynching Flash. However, I'm not taking my vote off him [soz] unless we need more votes on Aster at EoD. 

  On 6/29/2017 at 7:44 AM, Amanuensis said:

we may need more votes than 4. There's 6 neutrals total plus the eliminators. In interest of that: Striker, Asterion.

Since it's kinda obvious now I'd expect the elims to hop on the bandwagon too, so...yeah we shouldnt need my vote EoD, but we'll see.

Since I'm suspicious of Asterion, this makes me wonder if elim!Stick would possibly try and avoid adding to the lynch on elim!Aster?

9. She later votes Yitzi and says she'd be fine with lynching either Yitzi or Aster, but Yitzi was leading the lynch. (not sure whether this was just distancing from possible elim!Aster or actual suspicion?)

10. almost every other post she's made this game gives me a village vibe and I could see these as being things an actual villager would do for different reasons as well so I think all in all I'd say my read on Stick is village.

@_Stick_ I'd appreciate it if you could clarify some of the questions I asked if you don't mind? (but I'd say you're likely a villager so yeah lol)

Edit: If it comes down to the end of cycle and no one votes Aster then I'll probably switch to voting on Len because I'm suspicious of him too, and he voted on Stick (who I'm pretty sure is village at this point), and Stick and Rae(confirmed villager) have both voted for him.

Edited July 8, 2017 by BrightnessRadiant
making a sentence clearer lol ...and second edit about Len

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

Okay so no one else is getting on and the cycle is very nearly over so Elenion asterion

[Haelbarde he/him]

Cycle is over.

[Haelbarde he/him]

Night 4

Thanks go to Elenion for the writeup!

9:00 AM:
The sun had come up, and those at the barricade were becoming anxious. The constables' attacks had ceased halfway through the night, and everyone assumed it was because they had directed their focus to a less risky and more sinister plot to take the barricade. Roger Elariel had volunteered to take a sentry shift for the morning, but as he leaned up against the barricade with his gun he felt a hand on his shoulder.

"You're wanted down at the other end of the barricade," Keera Wilde said.

"Why in the rusting blazes would they call me right now? Don't they know I'm on a guard shift?" Roger replied, obviously hungry and therefore hangry.

"It was Julie who asked me to fetch you. Come on, Jay will take your shift."

Feeling reassured that it didn't sound like something too serious, the Elariel heir followed Keera.

9:30 AM:
Roger Elariel stood in a circle of those whom he had once considered his friends. Aimes was there, whom Roger had hardly noticed before. Keera was as well, and so was Dandi. No surprise there, because Roger had made several accusations against the latter. Julie was also there, but she stayed at the back of the crowd. They made eye contact once, but then she lowered her head to break Roger's grim stare. He had thought that her, of all of them, might stand up for him, because of their earlier conversation. He had told her everything, family secrets that his father would have killed to keep silent. Now, it had come to this.

"What are the charges against me?" the Elariel heir asked.

"Failure to assist in proper strategizing against the constables. Dereliction of duty. Disappearance during several key constable movements..."

The list went on. At the end of it all, a hat was passed around. Each member of the crowd had two marbles, one white and one black. One was placed into the hat from each member. The hat finally came to rest in Julie's hands. She dumped its contents.

"All black," she said, and the crowd fell deathly silent. No more needed to be said.

"No!" Roger Elariel screamed, "To be killed by my comerades would be an act of humiliation even beyond what House Elariel has experienced at the hands of my father! If I must die, allow me to die like a man, so that I and my house may keep our honor."

10:00 AM:
Holding nothing but his gun, Roger Elariel climbed over the barricade and charged the constable position at a dead sprint. The mob was at his back, no man ran with him.

"For the honor of Elariel!" he screamed.

He didn't make it twenty meters.

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Elenion was lynched. They were a Friend of the ABC and a Smoker.

PMs are CLOSED. Remember to always check the thread first.

Vote Tally (with history)
STINK(0): Ecth{1}
Ecthelion III(1): Dalinar{1}
Elenion(5): Araris{1}, Stick{1}, Wilson{1}, Rae{1}, Brightness{2}
Stick(1): Elenion{1}
Cloudjumper(1): Flash{1}
Flash(2): Ecth{2}, Striker{1}
Asterion(0): Brightness{1}

Vote Tally
Elenion(5): Araris, Stick, Wilson, Rae, Brightness
Flash(2): Ecth, Striker
Ecthelion III(1): Dalinar
Stick(1): Elenion{
Cloudjumper(1): Flash

Cycle ends in ~48 hours

Player List

Spoiler

1. Jay (The Flash) - has at least two steelminds - a ring, and a helmet
2. Name Name (Straw) - has a name ABC Roleless
3. Albin Brodeur (Jondesu) - Skaa Crew Member  ABC Rioter
4. Siv (Cloudjumper) - has unrealistic expectations
5. Luigi (Shqueeves) - roots for the underdog
6. Edmond Dantès (asterion137) - is seeking revenge for a wrongful imprisonment
7. Carcer (Paranoid King) - is all for rebelion
8. Dariend Castel (StrikerEZ) - walks a dark path
9. Roger Elariel (Elenion) - is not the Pauper Noble ABC Smoker
10. Alonine (BrightnessRadiant) - is probably not the real Eponine
11. Alrin (Arinian)
12. Aimes (Araris Valerian) - in above his head, wants to fade away
13. Bartolomeus Teki (randuir) - is slightly suspici... ABC Thug
14. Darius Castel (Ecthelion III) - is self-centered, with a brother
15. Keera Wilde (little Wilson) - fights for the right to be free!
16. Siena Mattel (Seonid) - is running away from love
17. Lukas Fehrweight (Drake Marshall)
18. Altea Meza (Crimsn-Wolf) - here because she was told to
19. Jack (A Joe in the Bush)
20. Dandi (_Stick_)
21. Kliff (TheMightyLopen) - roped into manning the barricade, possibly by a cousin? ABC Roleless
22. Garshin (Yitzi2) - thinks he's in Elendel when he really isn't... Infiltrator Roleless
23. Rorik (Dalinar Kholin)
24. Mykal (Amanuensis) - is a missionary of the path ABC Scavenger
25. Phil (STINK) - is simply Phil
26. Julie (Arraenae) - is an idealistic student fresh out of college
27. Locke Tekiel (OrlokTsubodai)
28. Suterna (Elbereth)

 

Edited July 8, 2017 by Haelbarde

[Stick. she/her]

. . . 

Excuse me while I cry in the corner

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

That was so sad... @Elenion amazing writeup...and sorry

[Stick. she/her]

Apologies for the double post, but I don't feel like editing all this in.

BR, I couldn't respond to this earlier as I was asleep, sorry. @BrightnessRadiant

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*starts amazing music playlist cuz there's no way I'm drudging through this lengthy game thread without a little happiness 

Analysis on Stick first: (not doing all of her posts, just the things that throw out red flags)

1. The first thing that seems strange to me is her post where she says it's strange that people are being voted on for how many pms they made, but then she later edits her post to say that the group pm thing IS a little suspicious. (this just stands out to me a little as a possible view for an elim to take if they want to cast suspicion on a villager without actually looking suspicious of them) iirc, I was ninjad by someone mentioning the Fibonacci and the prime number group PMs. And yeah, they did seem weird. Just wanted to mention that.

2. She later says this:

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But then, the more I think about it, and after reading the others' posts, Straw does seem a little suspicious, however normal his behaviour may look. 

Which sounds a little strange... @_Stick_ why did you say you thought he seemed suspicious if his behavior looked normal to you? (looks a little like an elim trying not to be too "sure" of a player's alignment) Maybe it was because how he wasn't posting more than usual, but the content wasn't much different from how he'd normally post. I'm pretty sure in one of my posts D1 I said that the 'lots of PMs' thing isn't really alignment indicative.

3. This was in response to Straw's revelation that he'd gotten a pm from Joe saying that he would help him if he was an elim:

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huh wow seems contradictory to what Joe's first post said. Let's see what Joe has to say about this, first though. Curious. He could be trying to confirm if you're an elim by seeing if you do confess to being one. But then, I don't think an elim would do that, really. Hm.

I'm a little confused why you would say this about Joe not doing this were he an elim, when it was apparent from this that he was a neutral? What I'm trying to say I guess is: Were you suspicious of Joe being an elim before this?No, I meant that straw, as an elim -or anyone, really- wouldn't admit to being an elim just because joe asked him if he was in a PM. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

4. This was in response to Yitzi day one: (talking about always hitting a villager on day one)

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That only happens because even if we do start pointing fingers at one of the elims, their teammates make sure they don't get lynched by suggesting another lynch target, which is fairly easy to get away with on D1s as no-one's really sure of anything yet

This did kind of seem to have happened....actually you personally helped to save Yitzi by switching to Jon. (So did I, but there was a plan in the works to break the tie in favor of lynching Yitzi(in pms) until Joe suggested lynching Jon so I moved over there instead because I was more suspicious of Jon at that point.) Well, yeah, it did. But the way and time it happened it is possible that no elims were involved at all. Unless the reason why Joe suggested we lynch Jond in the first place was because it was part of a deal with the Elims.

5. When you found out that PK made the weird group pms instead of Straw(and that was your basis for being suspicious of Straw) then why weren't you suspicious of PK for the same reasons? (Was he an elim teammate? ) I actually did say that I was, can't bother to look for the post but I'm pretty sure I asked him why he made those PMs and never got a response. :/

6. You said you would probably break the tie in favor of Rand, but then voted Jon instead...why? (You probably could've still gotten Rand lynched Day 1 if you wanted because of how close the votes were. In fact it was your vote that put the Jon lynch over.) You said you'd just read Aman's post about Jon, but what post were you referring to exactly? I couldn't find any post Aman made about Jon exactly other than him saying that last minute reaction votes tend to be more pure. In my post responding to Len last turn, I've linked a post that explains why I said that (the one you quoted below is the same, actually). And this is Aman's post I was referring to:

"Jon: First few posts NAI. His tinfoil of Wilson feels like he knows Crimsn and Wilson are town (or, at least, not elims) and he's trying to discourage the former trusting the latter. He's got a bit of an authoritative tone going that I'm not sure is alignment indicative, but it's triggering me a little (for example, "Everyone else keep your roles to yourselves"). I would say him giving Joe time to respond is sensible, but that could just be hedging because he'd rather lynch a villager. The timing of his vote on Rand suggests he's town, even if I think it's a really bad vote. Him trying to get Flash to talk more about his reads is good, but it's probably NAI since an elim could say that just as easily. Conclusion: Leaning evil but would not lynch him today, as it's unfair to start a lynch on someone when they aren't around, and I'd like to do some real-time interaction with him later." This was a post he made earlier during the turn but quoted it at the end of the turn after joe suggested the lynch.

7. This post from Night one:

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Last turn was crazy, catching up with 6 pages+throbbing head+3 mins left+phone ran out of charge+scrambling to get my tablet played a part in why I didn't really give an explanation for sayin I'd vote Rand over Straw or Yitzi. It was mostly [apart from the vote on joe] because I thought figuring out Rand's alignment would give us more useful info than the others. And like, I wasn't that suspicious of Yitzi, but well...Could we have a seeker scan him tonight? Straw's lynch would've given us like zero info, whether he flipped elim or village. I guess it would make me a bit wary about Yitzi; he had subtly defended Straw last cycle, iirc. But yeah. Rand alignment wouldve made me certain of what to think of Aman, for exmple, though I'm leaning village rn. And he expressed suspicion on Straw too, I think, so we couldve gotten something out of that? Hm. I should probably read Rand's elim game, I think. LG30, was it?

why would lynching Straw day 1 not have given us any info? You seemed a lot more interested in finding out Aman's alignment than Yitzi's. Is there a reason for this? Especially since you seemed to have voted on Jon on the previous cycle due to something Aman said which seems like you were already leaning village on him. And Jond flipped town. :-PSo, then why would you have been more interested in finding out Aman's alignment than Yitzi's? As you can probably tell, I wasn't so keen with lynching Rand anyway, but it seemed like the better option among the three at that moment. Ans yeah, I can't think of what info Straw's lynch at that point would've given us.

8. This post from Day 2? (I think lolz)

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So is everyone voting on Aster now? I suppose it does make the most sense, and seems more promising than lynching Flash. However, I'm not taking my vote off him [soz] unless we need more votes on Aster at EoD. 

   On 29/06/2017 at 4:44 PM,  Amanuensis said: 

  On 6/29/2017 at 7:44 AM, Amanuensis said:

we may need more votes than 4. There's 6 neutrals total plus the eliminators. In interest of that: Striker, Asterion.

Since it's kinda obvious now I'd expect the elims to hop on the bandwagon too, so...yeah we shouldnt need my vote EoD, but we'll see.

Since I'm suspicious of Asterion, this makes me wonder if elim!Stick would possibly try and avoid adding to the lynch on elim!Aster? Can't think of anyway to defense myself against this. But yeah, I did suggest we may lynch him last turn, but enough votes were on Len so...

9. She later votes Yitzi and says she'd be fine with lynching either Yitzi or Aster, but Yitzi was leading the lynch. (not sure whether this was just distancing from possible elim!Aster or actual suspicion?) My vote on Aster would've done literally nothing. :-P

10. almost every other post she's made this game gives me a village vibe and I could see these as being things an actual villager would do for different reasons as well so I think all in all I'd say my read on Stick is village.

@_Stick_ I'd appreciate it if you could clarify some of the questions I asked if you don't mind? (but I'd say you're likely a villager so yeah lol)

Edit: If it comes down to the end of cycle and no one votes Aster then I'll probably switch to voting on Len because I'm suspicious of him too, and he voted on Stick (who I'm pretty sure is village at this point), and Stick and Rae(confirmed villager) have both voted for him.

Bolded text is mine.

edit: turns out it wasn't a double post huh

Edited July 8, 2017 by _Stick_

[asterion137 he/him]

Hullo to the people who were discussing cloudjumper he said he would be on vacation for a week

[BrightnessRadiant she/her]

@_Stick_ thanks for taking the time to answer all of my questions  (I've gotten a very village vibe from you after reading back through your posts, and I appreciate that you addressed my concerns.)

[asterion137 he/him]

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