AerionBFII Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) This is the first glimpse that tells is something useful about the plot, though. We now know that Kaladin does not do anything stupid when he sees Amaram. Yeah so he doesn't charge right at him with his spear at least.. Has anybody thought of the possibility that Amaram wont even recognize Kaladin? I mean before he kills his team mates he didn't recognize him from his cousin? Edited February 19, 2014 by WEZ313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksiel Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Has anybody thought of the possibility that Amaram wont even recognize Kaladin? I mean before he kills his team mates he didn't recognize him from his cousin? I think enslaving the man who saved your life is more memorable than some petty conflict in your cousin's village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLight_Luc Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 He'll turn, get a look on Kaladin and faint right away, not before screaming like a little girl and emptying his bowels in his pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskshard Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 He'll turn, he'll see Kaladin and the look on his face, and an unintelligible sound will escape his lips. Then Wit will suddenly enter the scene and say to Kaladin, "Did you here that? Something just changed. I believe that's the sound Amaram makes when he pisses himself." 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLight_Luc Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Actually I'm just really happy we got a glimpse of Kaladin's general reaction. That's been plaguing me - even if my first reaction to this Glimpse was *OUCH!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askthepaperclip Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 "So? Dalinar is lighteyed. He's probably friends with a lot of murderers." This sounds like Lopen's sense of humor to me, more than Syl's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kaladin will just stand there with a troll smile on his face, staring at Amaram, then slowly push aside his hair to show the glyphs. He will then do the "watching you" gesture and inhale just enough Stormlight to make his eyes glow for a second. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Even though it has been a few days, I want to return to this quote: HE COMES FOR YOU, LITTLE TRAITOR. I AM SORRY. The consensus is that this it the Stormfather talking to Syl. While I agree that the speaker is the Stormfather (the voice is correct), I was never happy with the idea that he was talking to Syl. My reason is simple: Syl is not a viewpoint character and this voice sounds like someone addressing a viewpoint character. That by itself is not a strong argument. But after thinking about this a lot more, I have a pretty compelling theory. This is the Stormfather talking to Shallan. Remember the Stormfather scene from WoK. Kaladin is traveling the high storm and seeing scenes about the world. He particularly sees scenes related to the Interludes (e.g. Szeth). The Stormfather responds to what Kaladin is seeing. This is Shallan's book. If she rides the high storms, she may also see scenes related to the interludes. In particular, she will see Darkness. And because she has the greatest "crimes" of any viewpoint character, the Stormfather will tell her that Darkness is coming for her. So what about "Little Traitor"? It is a nickname, just like "Child of Tanvast". Besides, she is a traitor: to the Ghostbloods. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLight_Luc Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 To be a traitor to anything you first have to be a part of it, and so far nowhere as it been stated that Shallan is a Ghostblood, quite the contrary. That she stole from them, ok. That she betrayed them, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aheerema Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Even though it has been a few days, I want to return to this quote: The consensus is that this it the Stormfather talking to Syl. While I agree that the speaker is the Stormfather (the voice is correct), I was never happy with the idea that he was talking to Syl. My reason is simple: Syl is not a viewpoint character and this voice sounds like someone addressing a viewpoint character. That by itself is not a strong argument. But after thinking about this a lot more, I have a pretty compelling theory. This is the Stormfather talking to Shallan. Remember the Stormfather scene from WoK. Kaladin is traveling the high storm and seeing scenes about the world. He particularly sees scenes related to the Interludes (e.g. Szeth). The Stormfather responds to what Kaladin is seeing. This is Shallan's book. If she rides the high storms, she may also see scenes related to the interludes. In particular, she will see Darkness. And because she has the greatest "crimes" of any viewpoint character, the Stormfather will tell her that Darkness is coming for her. So what about "Little Traitor"? It is a nickname, just like "Child of Tanvast". Besides, she is a traitor: to the Ghostbloods. I like this, but perhaps "Little Traitor" could be linked to Pattern, or to the Cryptics... I'll have to develop this thought further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) The woman's skin had hardened to something like stone, smooth, with fine cracks. It was as if the person were a living statue. Jasnah or Shallan fighting ? Edited February 19, 2014 by Natans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummi Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Shallan talking about Jasanah ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskshard Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) The woman's skin had hardened to something like stone, smooth, with fine cracks. It was as if the person were a living statue. Hmm... I don't think that this is someone who has been soulcast, not with them being described as a living statue. A new Parshendi Form maybe? Edited February 19, 2014 by Duskshard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Aletus Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 My original thoughts were a soucast lighteyes - as they tend to statue the dead. But it says like stone, not as stone. Plus, the fact that she is unnamed means that the PoV doesn't recognize or associate with the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingSpren Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 The woman's skin had hardened to something like stone, smooth, with fine cracks. It was as if the person were a living statue. Jasnah or Shallan fighting ? This was my first thought, except that someone wouldn't be alive (living statue) if Jasnah or Shallan turned them to stone. Maybe there are groups besides the Parshendi who can change forms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Maybe a new Parshendi form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingSpren Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'd agree with this except for the description of her as a "woman". I think the PoV would have to view her as human-like to label her as a woman instead of just female (or femalen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Unless the PoV is human. It would be really funny if this is just a dream sequence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Maybe an ability of a KR ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Like the Order of Stonewards? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) The woman's skin had hardened to something like stone, smooth, with fine cracks. It was as if the person were a living statue. Another thought. Brandon said something about a Stoneward surge that could make things hard like stone, maybe this is related to this surge. The woman could be a Radiant fighting in some kind of "Golem form" given the fact that plenty of the voidbringer had hardskin his could be a good tactic to boast defense. So maybe this is one of Dalinar visions ? PS: Doubled ninja'd o.O Edited February 19, 2014 by Natans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Ooooh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 She is described as a "woman", so I don't think it's a new Parshendi form (though that was my first guess). She's also apparently a living statue, so she can't be Soulcast... Uh. Going to go ahead and peg this as "unknown Surge usage which explains the 'Stone' in Stonewards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskshard Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I was thinking it could be a Stoneward surge as well but then I thought, what would be the point in a KR making their skin hard as stone, they have Shardplate. So I don't think it'll be a surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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