The Sovereign Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I won't say it because I find it bordering on nationalism. I pledge allegiance to no nation or entity, save God and my own conscience. I bear no loyalties towards my own nation over any other, and I refuse to support or endorse the government that presumes to rule over me. I don't know how many people say it daily, but speaking as someone in the heart of conservative Texas, patriotism of all kinds is pretty strong down here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 The link just takes me to the site's homepage.Hmm, try this one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hmm, try this one. Raised as a Sheltered Homeschooler (I once felt enormously guilty because I watched Toothless at a sleepover without getting my mom's permission which, let's face it, I wouldn't have gotten anyway) who later became a Rebellious Homeschooler crossed with a Hippie Homeschooler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Kobold: so your loyalty is to yourself and your conscience - and then your family? Community? How far does it go till it becomes 'nation' which you don't pledge allegiance to? Also and on a similar note, this gives me hope for the future: https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKpeQw9QVMTNTVmGP4pxrtf-wGW7MOJPetKnFxUkIoI0I65j3nI4LbMZBo-F7JYdCa_5vi3WdD-6UqXQ09NQvdAhSoD6oA&v=xQqX-Pd5U2w 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlion Blight Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Kobold: so your loyalty is to yourself and your conscience - and then your family? Community? How far does it go till it becomes 'nation' which you don't pledge allegiance to? As you participate more in "society", you find that there is quite a bit you rely on the nation for. Infrastructure maintenance, various standards and practices to prevent exploitation or child labor/enslavement, public education, police forces, fire fighters, and so forth. It certainly has room for improvement, but supporting one's nation does not necessarily need to lead to fascist devotion. So one could always vote or protest or campaign according to one's conscience and acknowledge they owe quite a bit of their success/opportunities to the nation they reside in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGen Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I similarly don't say the pledge. It's a bit militaristic, isn't it? Expecting everyone to stand up and recite a loyalty oath? Oh, and standing at the chorus of Handel's Messiah - dude. This shouldn't even be a tradition. You do it literally because a king did it once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippleGylf Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm fine with saying the pledge. At my school, we only do it once a week. I imagine it must seem odd to others, but in high school, most people just mutter it. It is sometimes awkward, seeing as I hope to one day move to England permanently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Well, to parallel this, I don't know the words to God Save the Queen. I used to know them back in primary school (that's elementary school to you Americans) but now I only the song name. I don't think the majority do to be fair. Nor do I see any real need to re-learn them. I'd much rather be singing Galantis - Peanut Butter Jelly Edited September 9, 2015 by ParadoxSpren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheSeamonster Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Weeping Angel? Ohhhh great. Don't you remember that an image of an angel takes on the characteristics of an angel?!? Everyone turn off your computers and go grab some eyedrops! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ohhhh great. Don't you remember that an image of an angel takes on the characteristics of an angel?!? Everyone turn off your computers and go grab some eyedrops! WHY DID YOU QUOTE IT YOU HAVE DOOMED US AAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheSeamonster Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) WHY DID YOU QUOTE IT YOU HAVE DOOMED US AAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. FINALLY MY PLAN IS SET INTO MOTION!! Edited September 9, 2015 by The Crooked Warden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. FINALLY MY PLAN IS SET INTO MOTION!! IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheSeamonster Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE?????? Dangit not him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 ...you know you're an introvert when you can't handle eating out in the dining room because people so you hide in your room with a bag of Fritos and some cheese dip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunner Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 ...you know you're an introvert when you can't handle eating out in the dining room because people so you hide in your room with a bag of Fritos and some cheese dip. You should've seen me the couple times there were Priest/Laurel church activities at my house. I am much the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 You should've seen me the couple times there were Priest/Laurel church activities at my house. I am much the same. And the only people there were my family. So yeah. It was just a little too chaotic for me. I don't generally have anything against family dinners, but a free-for-all isn't really my thing. Hence the cheese dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 And the only people there were my family. So yeah. It was just a little too chaotic for me. I don't generally have anything against family dinners, but a free-for-all isn't really my thing. Hence the cheese dip. Your parents didn't mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Your parents didn't mind? Nope. I chow down in my room fairly often. It's great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunner Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 And the only people there were my family. So yeah. It was just a little too chaotic for me. I don't generally have anything against family dinners, but a free-for-all isn't really my thing. Hence the cheese dip. You probably wouldn't have liked the family dinners my family had when all eight of us were home, then. They were nothing if not exciting. Though my brothers always stole my chicken. They still steal my chicken. This displeases me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Nope. I chow down in my room fairly often. It's great. Wish my parents had let me do things like that. Even when I was all "peopled out," I had to be social. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 You probably wouldn't have liked the family dinners my family had when all eight of us were home, then. They were nothing if not exciting. Though my brothers always stole my chicken. They still steal my chicken. This displeases me. Well, I actually don't mind family dinners (usually). That actually sounds rather fun, and you can rest assured that I wouldn't be stealing your chicken. Wish my parents had let me do things like that. Even when I was all "peopled out," I had to be social. I'm sorry. That really stinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allomancy Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) WHY DID YOU QUOTE IT YOU HAVE DOOMED US AAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *breathe* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edited September 10, 2015 by Allomancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I honestly don't mind family dinners and gatherings. (Yummy food is always a great distraction but the problem is there is never enough of it) I usually just wander between groups *storyofmylife* due to growing bored because of uninteresting conversation. I'll typically stick around though for a few words here and there, sipping my tea, making myself useful by clearing up or just preferring to sit and listen as the women of the family steer the conversation to whichever topic is most prevalent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allomancy Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *breathe* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Now....I'm.... out... of... breath... (but I'm not a drab)... (Hopefully)... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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