You Know You're a Sanderfan When...

[Shaggai]

psst

I think the original joke was the implication that she was wearing NOTHING else on her whole body but a glove

and now we have all been Pattern and killed the joke

Yes, that was the joke. Hence why I mentioned Lightweaving clothes.

[sanderfan she/her]

When you're walking around at school and you're thinking about how scandalous the Alethi would think all of the girls at your school (including yourself) are because their left hands are uncovered.

[Delightful]

Ha! Fair point...but job interviews sometimes trump winter face warmth!

Why do beards affect the outcome of a job interview?

[Titan Arum]

Why do beards affect the outcome of a job interview?

Some very professional jobs, such as in finance or in other more traditional/conservative corporate America positions, have certain expectations with appearances that are appropriate, especially client-facing jobs. Granted, interviewers under 45 don't mind as much, but Baby Boomers will judge you for your appearance despite your qualifications. It's unfair, but part of life until that generation begins to retire.

When I interviewed in Corporate America, I had to shave my beard off. Now that I work in International Development, beards are more acceptable and I've grown it back. I hope my next job interviewers for the Foreign Service are more accepting of beards, but if the person is as old as my father, they may judge.

[Delightful]

Some very professional jobs, such as in finance or in other more traditional/conservative corporate America positions, have certain expectations with appearances that are appropriate, especially client-facing jobs. Granted, interviewers under 45 don't mind as much, but Baby Boomers will judge you for your appearance despite your qualifications. It's unfair, but part of life until that generation begins to retire.

When I interviewed in Corporate America, I had to shave my beard off. Now that I work in International Development, beards are more acceptable and I've grown it back. I hope my next job interviewers for the Foreign Service are more accepting of beards, but if the person is as old as my father, they may judge.

I find that really strange, though maybe equally strange to judging women for not wearing makeup to work.....you would think it would work the other way around, by spending less time on appearances you could expect people to work better....It's not even hygiene its just 'we don't like hair'.

 

....im being a bit silly, but could you go in with a mustache, no beard, like some cartoon french character?

[traceria she/her]

Some very professional jobs, such as in finance or in other more traditional/conservative corporate America positions, have certain expectations with appearances that are appropriate, especially client-facing jobs. Granted, interviewers under 45 don't mind as much, but Baby Boomers will judge you for your appearance despite your qualifications. It's unfair, but part of life until that generation begins to retire.

When I interviewed in Corporate America, I had to shave my beard off. Now that I work in International Development, beards are more acceptable and I've grown it back. I hope my next job interviewers for the Foreign Service are more accepting of beards, but if the person is as old as my father, they may judge.

My husband's an attorney, and he definitely wouldn't be able to have a beard for exactly this reason.  Every time he'd go before a judge, he'd be judged on his appearance.  I remember him telling me about one judge that is anti-certain color shirts, ties and suits.  I forget the judge's preferred color combo, but a sports announcer (with their wacky tie/shirt combos) would get a scolding from that guy.  IF my husband ever grew a beard, he'd have to take sufficient time off to get it grown in properly first so as not to appear scraggly before clients, other attorneys and judges.

[Guest]

All the guys have work have beards... Nobody cares how an engineer is dressed or groomed as long as he (or she) is wearing clothes Shorts and sandals (with or without white socks ) are even acceptable during the warm season. For a while, we had Hawaiian shirt Friday...

[Kasimir he/him]

When you start coming up with riddles based on the Cosmere, because riddle games are fun, but really, Cosmere-based ones are even better

[BreathTaker he/him]

It's really unfortunate that the older generation hates manliness so much haha. Where I live I have seen guys that look like Dwalin wearing suits and I think it's awesome.

 

 

Speaking of Dwalin, has anyone noticed yet that his brother Balin is the Treasurer.... he's BALLIN'!!!!! Bwahahahahaha

[Titan Arum]

All the guys have work have beards... Nobody cares how an engineer is dressed or groomed as long as he (or she) is wearing clothes Shorts and sandals (with or without white socks ) are even acceptable during the warm season. For a while, we had Hawaiian shirt Friday...

You know, I find beards as acceptable in the work place are really dependent on a few things: average age of the firm, geographic location of the firm, and the type of firm. I think the first really trumps the others, but facial hair is more acceptable in San Francisco, CA than it is in Dallas, TX. If you're a Fortune 500 firm or a more traditional firm like a law firm or big financial firm, then facial hair is unacceptable. However, if everyone working in the office is 25 to 35, no matter what/where the firm is...it seems facial hair is more the norm, since facial hair is now a trend with this age group (confession...I'm smack dab in the middle of this age group). 

 

I find that really strange, though maybe equally strange to judging women for not wearing makeup to work.....you would think it would work the other way around, by spending less time on appearances you could expect people to work better....It's not even hygiene its just 'we don't like hair'.

 

....im being a bit silly, but could you go in with a mustache, no beard, like some cartoon french character?

I have to say that I find it kinda funny that the "You know you're a Sanderfan" page has shifted towards the philosophy of facial hair!

 

Delightful, you bring up a good point through your question. Facial hair is more acceptable if it's well kept, trimmed, or shaped. For example, a nice tipped and rolled mustache (something I see Wax or Wayne wearing, since it's from the Victorian era), is highly acceptable, especially if you're the type of chap who wears bow ties in the office with trendy/hipster glasses! An unruly/Bridge Four beard is always frowned upon, but one that's short and landscaped well (like Rock's after he gets his razor!) is more likely to be less frowned upon as well. 

 

This, all however, is something that is true in America. It may not be true for other countries. In Muslim countries beards and mustaches are the norm. In India, the vast majority of men have at least a mustache. It really comes down to cultural norms. 

[Delightful]

You know, I find beards as acceptable in the work place are really dependent on a few things: average age of the firm, geographic location of the firm, and the type of firm. I think the first really trumps the others, but facial hair is more acceptable in San Francisco, CA than it is in Dallas, TX. If you're a Fortune 500 firm or a more traditional firm like a law firm or big financial firm, then facial hair is unacceptable. However, if everyone working in the office is 25 to 35, no matter what/where the firm is...it seems facial hair is more the norm, since facial hair is now a trend with this age group (confession...I'm smack dab in the middle of this age group). 

 

I have to say that I find it kinda funny that the "You know you're a Sanderfan" page has shifted towards the philosophy of facial hair!

 

Delightful, you bring up a good point through your question. Facial hair is more acceptable if it's well kept, trimmed, or shaped. For example, a nice tipped and rolled mustache (something I see Wax or Wayne wearing, since it's from the Victorian era), is highly acceptable, especially if you're the type of chap who wears bow ties in the office with trendy/hipster glasses! An unruly/Bridge Four beard is always frowned upon, but one that's short and landscaped well (like Rock's after he gets his razor!) is more likely to be less frowned upon as well. 

 

This, all however, is something that is true in America. It may not be true for other countries. In Muslim countries beards and mustaches are the norm. In India, the vast majority of men have at least a mustache. It really comes down to cultural norms. 

Oooh now I really want to see someone go into work with a Horneater beard!

Unless, y'know, it would lose you your job. Kinda takes the fun out of it.

 

Good point on cultural norms across different countries. Reminds me of a picture going round lately, labelled "to all movie makers: THIS is what scientists who have just launched a space ship (shuttle? probe? ) look like", and the entire team were Indian women in colourful sari's.

[Crystin Radiant]

When you become extremely excited because the status bar for Shadows of Self doubled from last time you saw it...

[Surgebound Rainspren he/him]

when your looking through fashion mags for mistborn cloaks and argue with your science teacher about the realistic effects of surgebinding! 

[Unhinged he/him]

Whenever you feel down you speak the immortal words Life before death, Strength before weakens, Journey before destination. And suddenly everything seems a little bit better.

[Zas678 he/him]

You know you're a Brandon Sanderson fan when you haven't visited the forums for 2 years.... 

 

And you're still in the top 50 of reputation.

[Steel he/him]

When you use every opportunity you can find to quote Brandon Sanderson.

[Scriptorian he/him]

You know you're a Brandon Sanderson fan when you haven't visited the forums for 2 years.... 

 

And you're still in the top 50 of reputation.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

You know you're a Sanderfan when you notice you're #16 in the Top Reputation, then you immediately think of the Implications of 16.

[Kasimir he/him]

When you think Sanderson withdrawal is a legit thing.

[Left he/him]

It is

 

But it is also badchull.

[Redbird he/him]

When you realize you just finished WoR and don't know what to do with your life.

[Jeremy he/him]

You know you're a Sanderfan when you recognize, understand, and occasionally use the term "badchull".

[Left he/him]

When you were one of the popularizers of the term

[Kobold King he/him]

When you were one of the popularizers of the term

 

When you're perhaps disproportionately awed by that achievement.

[king of nowhere]

You know you're a Brandon Sanderson fan when you haven't visited the forums for 2 years.... 

 

And you're still in the top 50 of reputation.

Huh.

I promised myself long ago that I wouldn't let myself be concerned with a silly measure of popolarity on an internet forum...

but I can't help noticing that, at the time of this writing, I have a bit more rep than you, so if you're still in the top 50, that means... ommmygod, I broke the top 50!!

That happened half an hour ago. I spent the next 15 minutes looking for the reputation ranking (after trying any possible option in profile and members list, I started wondering if maybe I scrolled down the page...), and the successive 15 minutes laughing. Of which about 5 minutes I laughed for entering in the top 50, and the next 10 I laughed at my own sillyness. Now I will spend some more time laughing {at the ridiculousness of me laughing at [me laughing at (me entering the top 50)]}

 

Annd thinking I only started lurking, and then posting, in this forum to fight the symptoms of sanderson withdrawal...

Edited November 17, 2014 by king of nowhere