LG112 - Pseudocycle Five: The First One Bites the Dust

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

LG112 - Pseudocycle Five: The First One Bites the Dust

Ding!

The Unknown Player looked at his phone. He had a new email. It was probably spam, but he didn't have anything better to do so he opened the notification. 

“Holy—”

They caught one. The automated detection systems caught a Roleplay Character. 

The Unknown Player logged onto the Shard and looked at the account. Yes, it was obvious now. The posts, the history, it was clearly not made by a human.

And now they had a posting style to draw from. This could be the key to finding every last one of them.

~

The Unknown Deity snorted. “Bout time.”

~

CadCom has been killed! They were a Vanilla SE Player.

Verdance has been executed! They were a Roleplay Character PseudoGM.

Vote Count:

Verdance(7): KitKat, Divergent, Qian, CadCom, Striker, Araris 

Coco (0): Hoid Slayer

Shardworld links will be out eventually. 

This cycle will end on Sunday the 13th of June at 11:00 AM Central Time. 

Players:

Spoiler

• @coco.pudding as Coco Village Coinshot 
• @Through The Living Star as Star
• @CoderDrag0n8 as Coder Village Coinshot, SE Player Retiree
• @Myst as Mistake  Village Coinshot, SE Player Vanilla
• @StrikerEZ as Striker Village Tineye 
• @Qianweilian as Qianweilian 
• @Through the Living Hopper as Hopper SE Player Roleplayer
• @CadCom as Cam SE Player Vanilla 
• @Verdance as Verdance  Village Tineye Roleplay Character PseudoGM
• @TwinStorm as TwinStorm -> replaced by @Divergent
• @Hoid Slayer as Hoid Slayer Elim Coinshot 
• @___ as Mippo
• @xinoehp512 as Xinoehp512 Elim Coinshot 
• @Araris Valerian as Araris Valerian 
• @|TJ| as TJ SE Player PseudoIM Elim Coinshot 
• @Kit_Kat as Kit Kat Village Vanilla
• @Questioning Lettuce as Questioning Lettuce
• @Miss Fallen SE Player Thread Controller

 

[CadCom he/him]

Ahh man. What did I ever do to deserve death @Verdance and co? 

Edited 18 hours ago by CadCom

[Myst He/Him]

So, Coco’s next in the meta cycle?

And for now I vote exe-ing lettuce/ the other pseudo elim

[|TJ| he/him]

For the record, Verdance is NOT the PseudoGM to have converted me, Hoid and me. 

Which means Coco has got to go next. 

I'll go through Verdance's posts to see if they were leaning either way for the bet. 

[Qianweilian He/him]

35 minutes ago, Myst said:

So, Coco’s next in the meta cycle?

And for now I vote exe-ing lettuce/ the other pseudo elim

Why were we exeing the pseudo elims again? I never totally got the logic behind that.

[CadCom he/him]

2 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Why were we exeing the pseudo elims again? I never totally got the logic behind that.

I think Myst was the biggest supporter of the idea, but there is a general belief among some of us that the meta-elims voted for a pseudo-elim win. I'm leaning that way, but not entirely convinced. If I get Time, I'll also analyze Verdance's posts. But I don't think from memory there's much indicitive of much there. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

10 minutes ago, CadCom said:

I think Myst was the biggest supporter of the idea, but there is a general belief among some of us that the meta-elims voted for a pseudo-elim win. I'm leaning that way, but not entirely convinced. If I get Time, I'll also analyze Verdance's posts. But I don't think from memory there's much indicitive of much there. 

Possibly a more fruitful approach would be to analyze the posts around when I claimed the scan on Verdance. That’s where I’m headed now.

Edit: There are a few notable responses to my claim. Verdance himself was generally confused but made his own claim on the assumption I was being honest. I got a PM from Hoid asking for me to verify that I was joking and that we were all voting on Verdance because it was funny (note: I probably wouldn’t do something like this to someone I consider a newer player). Mippo and Kit Kat weirdly kinda ignored the whole thing. And after I clarified that I was joking, Striker immediately agreed that Verdance was elim.

Based on Verdance’s reaction, if we assume he had the elim doc open and was checking it, we can also assume that his teammates either were not online at the time, or they had some sort of progression from confusion to buying my claim. In retrospect, this should have been some evidence in favor of meta-village!Myst, since his reaction doesn’t fit this profile.

Hoid’s vote would be similar, except for the clarifying PM. That seems like something one of Verdance’s teammates might do. Unfortunately, I didn’t see the PM for a bit so I didn’t get to feel things out more there. coco’s vote feels kinda similar to Hoid’s, and I also got a PM from coco asking for clarification (less weird than Hoid’s, since we already had a PM up).

And then Mippo/Kit Kat totally dodged the issue despite posting between my initial claim and my later reveal. This is also not a great look in my opinion. Especially for Mippo, who seems to be echoing some of Verdance’s continued confusion a bit later in the turn.

Striker looks pretty clean. I don’t easily see how he can be on a team with Verdance given their totally different reactions.

I’m thinking something like coco/Mippo/Hoid as the remaining meta-elims. Realistically only 1-2 of those are right, since plenty of folks weren’t online during the crucial time of this interaction. But I would lean toward any other elims being newer or less active based on the overall reaction to my gambit (Lettuce/Twinstorm->Divergent/Xino/Star)

Conveniently, Mippo is still alive in the pseudogame, so why don’t we boot him out.

Edited 16 hours ago by Araris Valerian

[coco.pudding she/they]

Well I completely forgot today was rollover so my bad yall

looks like we got Ver anyway tho so that’s good. Took us long enough.

@Kit_Kat are you the one who moved Hoid/Slayerman’s vote? And if so, why?

So Ver obviously changed either my role or Slayerman and TJ’s roles (we’ve established that was the same person, right?). I see TJ has claimed otherwise but there’s no way to verify that. 
Along that thread, what’s the order of actions here? Could we possibly have another new meta elim coinshot running around? @The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr

1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said:

Possibly a more fruitful approach would be to analyze the posts around when I claimed the scan on Verdance. That’s where I’m headed now.

Edit: There are a few notable responses to my claim. Verdance himself was generally confused but made his own claim on the assumption I was being honest. I got a PM from Hoid asking for me to verify that I was joking and that we were all voting on Verdance because it was funny (note: I probably wouldn’t do something like this to someone I consider a newer player). Mippo and Kit Kat weirdly kinda ignored the whole thing. And after I clarified that I was joking, Striker immediately agreed that Verdance was elim.

Based on Verdance’s reaction, if we assume he had the elim doc open and was checking it, we can also assume that his teammates either were not online at the time, or they had some sort of progression from confusion to buying my claim. In retrospect, this should have been some evidence in favor of meta-village!Myst, since his reaction doesn’t fit this profile.

Hoid’s vote would be similar, except for the clarifying PM. That seems like something one of Verdance’s teammates might do. Unfortunately, I didn’t see the PM for a bit so I didn’t get to feel things out more there. coco’s vote feels kinda similar to Hoid’s, and I also got a PM from coco asking for clarification (less weird than Hoid’s, since we already had a PM up).

And then Mippo/Kit Kat totally dodged the issue despite posting between my initial claim and my later reveal. This is also not a great look in my opinion. Especially for Mippo, who seems to be echoing some of Verdance’s continued confusion a bit later in the turn.

Striker looks pretty clean. I don’t easily see how he can be on a team with Verdance given their totally different reactions.

I’m thinking something like coco/Mippo/Hoid as the remaining meta-elims. Realistically only 1-2 of those are right, since plenty of folks weren’t online during the crucial time of this interaction. But I would lean toward any other elims being newer or less active based on the overall reaction to my gambit (Lettuce/Twinstorm->Divergent/Xino/Star)

Conveniently, Mippo is still alive in the pseudogame, so why don’t we boot him out.

I like this. (I was already assuming Araris is village but this solidifies it for me a bit.) I can agree on Mippo. Some of what he’s been saying in PMs has had him on my watchlist but there hasn’t really been a moment when we didn’t have a good target. 

Ig the other course of action is going for pseudo elims instead? I could be willing to do that but if we keep getting rid of them it’ll be too late to turn back soon and we’ll have to commit to foiling a pseudo elim bet. 

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

8 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Well I completely forgot today was rollover so my bad yall

looks like we got Ver anyway tho so that’s good. Took us long enough.

@Kit_Kat are you the one who moved Hoid/Slayerman’s vote? And if so, why?

So Ver obviously changed either my role or Slayerman and TJ’s roles (we’ve established that was the same person, right?). I see TJ has claimed otherwise but there’s no way to verify that. 
Along that thread, what’s the order of actions here? Could we possibly have another new meta elim coinshot running around? @The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr

I like this. (I was already assuming Araris is village but this solidifies it for me a bit.) I can agree on Mippo. Some of what he’s been saying in PMs has had him on my watchlist but there hasn’t really been a moment when we didn’t have a good target. 

Ig the other course of action is going for pseudo elims instead? I could be willing to do that but if we keep getting rid of them it’ll be too late to turn back soon and we’ll have to commit to foiling a pseudo elim bet. 

The Deaths happen last in the OoA so Ver could have used his Action to Change a Role.

Edited 6 hours ago by Through the living Wahr

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

6 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Well I completely forgot today was rollover so my bad yall

looks like we got Ver anyway tho so that’s good. Took us long enough.

@Kit_Kat are you the one who moved Hoid/Slayerman’s vote? And if so, why?

So Ver obviously changed either my role or Slayerman and TJ’s roles (we’ve established that was the same person, right?). I see TJ has claimed otherwise but there’s no way to verify that. 
Along that thread, what’s the order of actions here? Could we possibly have another new meta elim coinshot running around? @The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr

I like this. (I was already assuming Araris is village but this solidifies it for me a bit.) I can agree on Mippo. Some of what he’s been saying in PMs has had him on my watchlist but there hasn’t really been a moment when we didn’t have a good target. 

Ig the other course of action is going for pseudo elims instead? I could be willing to do that but if we keep getting rid of them it’ll be too late to turn back soon and we’ll have to commit to foiling a pseudo elim bet. 

I do feel like it’s worth somewhat clearing Araris for that Verdance exe

[Araris Valerian he/him]

5 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

I do feel like it’s worth somewhat clearing Araris for that Verdance exe

Only somewhat?

Also, @coco.pudding, TJ has been flipped as a meta-villager, so there isn’t really any reason to doubt what he’s saying.

[Myst He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Only somewhat?

Also, @coco.pudding, TJ has been flipped as a meta-villager, so there isn’t really any reason to doubt what he’s saying.

Yeah, it’s pretty much confirmed Ver changed your role to coinshot. 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Why are we voting Mippo? I’m not sure I understand the reasoning. And by “we” I mean the living players, as I am unfortunately dead by friendly fire.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

Why are we voting Mippo? I’m not sure I understand the reasoning. And by “we” I mean the living players, as I am unfortunately dead by friendly fire.

I wasn’t a fan of his reaction to the initial situation with Verdance. Seems reasonable to get the meta-elims out of the pseudogame sooner rather than later.

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Araris Valerian said:

I wasn’t a fan of his reaction to the initial situation with Verdance. Seems reasonable to get the meta-elims out of the pseudogame sooner rather than later.

But why not just win the pseudo game? There’s 2 pseudo Elims left. Using the Elim kill and the exe we could get our flips right now

[Araris Valerian he/him]

3 minutes ago, Myst said:

But why not just win the pseudo game? There’s 2 pseudo Elims left. Using the Elim kill and the exe we could get our flips right now

Do we know who they are?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I wasn’t a fan of his reaction to the initial situation with Verdance. Seems reasonable to get the meta-elims out of the pseudogame sooner rather than later.

Yeah I think I prefer Myst’s reasoning here. May as well get the flips sooner rather than later. But I can’t vote, so I can’t back my belief up unfortunately.

Just now, Araris Valerian said:

Do we know who they are?

I’m pretty sure we know at least one more: Lettuce.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I’d be fine with exeing Lettuce as well. She could be a meta-elim as well.

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, StrikerEZ said:

Yeah I think I prefer Myst’s reasoning here. May as well get the flips sooner rather than later. But I can’t vote, so I can’t back my belief up unfortunately.

I’m pretty sure we know at least one more: Lettuce

1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said:

Do we know who they are?

Yeah, we know Lettuce is, and we only need to know one for the exe. The Elim NK, can self target, and then we’re good.

Also, I’m 90% sure Coco’s elim(wow, I’ve never said that before) and the fact that she’s fine voting Mippo is not something I like. A Meta Elim who voted on a psuedo Elim win is fine with any exe other than a pseudo Elim.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

19 minutes ago, Myst said:

Yeah, we know Lettuce is, and we only need to know one for the exe. The Elim NK, can self target, and then we’re good.

Also, I’m 90% sure Coco’s elim(wow, I’ve never said that before) and the fact that she’s fine voting Mippo is not something I like. A Meta Elim who voted on a psuedo Elim win is fine with any exe other than a pseudo Elim.

I agree with this, but I’m really not sure with the evidence I’m aware of that the meta-elims banked on a pseudo-elim win other than the fact that it’s logical

Can someone other than Myst explain the reasoning to me?

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Hoid Slayer said:

I agree with this, but I’m really not sure with the evidence I’m aware of that the meta-elims banked on a pseudo-elim win other than the fact that it’s logical

Can someone other than Myst explain the reasoning to me?

Whats wrong with my reasoning?

: )

[Qianweilian He/him]

Okay, so I've taken another look through the threads and I'm beginning to agree with the sentiment that the elims bet on the pelims. If that's the case, then we should probably attempt to end the pseudogame fairly quickly, to avoid the possibility of an melim coinshot (which they probably have given Verdance's role) wearing down the village and potentially pushing the pseudogame too close for comfort. To that end, Lettuce.

[|TJ| he/him]

@Araris Valerian, I think the way mippo revealed that I was the pseudo-IM was very villagery. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

11 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

@Araris Valerian, I think the way mippo revealed that I was the pseudo-IM was very villagery. 

Which cycle was that? I'll go take a look.

[|TJ| he/him]

2 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Which cycle was that? I'll go take a look.

should be in the beginning of p-cycle 3.