LG112 - Pseudocycle Five: The First One Bites the Dust

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

5 hours ago, Myst said:

Whats wrong with my reasoning?

: )

Nothing specifically, just the fact that you’re a single guy who could be wrong

[Myst He/Him]

26 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Nothing specifically, just the fact that you’re a single guy who could be wrong

True fair

@CadCom do you mind? I think you have your own reasons for it?

[Divergent He/Him]

16 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Possibly a more fruitful approach would be to analyze the posts around when I claimed the scan on Verdance. That’s where I’m headed now.

Edit: There are a few notable responses to my claim. Verdance himself was generally confused but made his own claim on the assumption I was being honest. I got a PM from Hoid asking for me to verify that I was joking and that we were all voting on Verdance because it was funny (note: I probably wouldn’t do something like this to someone I consider a newer player). Mippo and Kit Kat weirdly kinda ignored the whole thing. And after I clarified that I was joking, Striker immediately agreed that Verdance was elim.

Based on Verdance’s reaction, if we assume he had the elim doc open and was checking it, we can also assume that his teammates either were not online at the time, or they had some sort of progression from confusion to buying my claim. In retrospect, this should have been some evidence in favor of meta-village!Myst, since his reaction doesn’t fit this profile.

Hoid’s vote would be similar, except for the clarifying PM. That seems like something one of Verdance’s teammates might do. Unfortunately, I didn’t see the PM for a bit so I didn’t get to feel things out more there. coco’s vote feels kinda similar to Hoid’s, and I also got a PM from coco asking for clarification (less weird than Hoid’s, since we already had a PM up).

And then Mippo/Kit Kat totally dodged the issue despite posting between my initial claim and my later reveal. This is also not a great look in my opinion. Especially for Mippo, who seems to be echoing some of Verdance’s continued confusion a bit later in the turn.

Striker looks pretty clean. I don’t easily see how he can be on a team with Verdance given their totally different reactions.

I’m thinking something like coco/Mippo/Hoid as the remaining meta-elims. Realistically only 1-2 of those are right, since plenty of folks weren’t online during the crucial time of this interaction. But I would lean toward any other elims being newer or less active based on the overall reaction to my gambit (Lettuce/Twinstorm->Divergent/Xino/Star)

Conveniently, Mippo is still alive in the pseudogame, so why don’t we boot him out.

That gambit situation and Verdance's reaction somewhat reminds me of Meerkat / Worldhopper not being very prepared during the AG when the massclaims happened, so I think it's possible they didn't do any consulting in the elim doc and reacted on their own, which might suggest they weren't / aren't very coordinated

That said, I agree with most of what you've said here. I think it's not a great look for Mippo more than Kit_Kat since he was there before you made the claim and then just kept posting while ignoring it. I think Hoid's vote is worse since he immediately voted Verdance as compared to Coco, who had a similar reaction to Myst.

Also, idk, I feel that if Lettuce were meta elim, they would have been prodded more or been subbed out at this point because they've not posted in so many cycles. Could see a possible world of it being Xino or Star though, they're vaguely around to be playing the game, while not being very contributive

Mippo

14 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Well I completely forgot today was rollover so my bad yall

looks like we got Ver anyway tho so that’s good. Took us long enough.

@Kit_Kat are you the one who moved Hoid/Slayerman’s vote? And if so, why?

So Ver obviously changed either my role or Slayerman and TJ’s roles (we’ve established that was the same person, right?). I see TJ has claimed otherwise but there’s no way to verify that. 
Along that thread, what’s the order of actions here? Could we possibly have another new meta elim coinshot running around? @The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr

I like this. (I was already assuming Araris is village but this solidifies it for me a bit.) I can agree on Mippo. Some of what he’s been saying in PMs has had him on my watchlist but there hasn’t really been a moment when we didn’t have a good target. 

Ig the other course of action is going for pseudo elims instead? I could be willing to do that but if we keep getting rid of them it’ll be too late to turn back soon and we’ll have to commit to foiling a pseudo elim bet. 

Could you tell more on what he was saying in PMs that had him on your watchlist?

[Kit_Kat She/Her]

21 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

@Kit_Kat are you the one who moved Hoid/Slayerman’s vote? And if so, why?

 

I am! Ver was already going to win, so I figured I would have some fun and use my power while I can.

[coco.pudding she/they]

6 hours ago, Divergent said:

Could you tell more on what he was saying in PMs that had him on your watchlist?

Mainly the fact that we were talking about how he shouldn’t destroy Nalthis in the first couple cycles and then he told me he was going to. (Did that happen? I got killed that cycle so idk) But then it didn’t get destroyed (unless they just didn’t announce it in the write up) so that was a little weird. But destroying that would have roleblocked a lot of villagers which seems like something a villager maybe wouldn’t do. I’d have to look back in my pms for other things but I don’t have enough service now to really load new pages.

1 minute ago, Kit_Kat said:

I am! Ver was already going to win, so I figured I would have some fun and use my power while I can.

Okay, I suppose that’s fair

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Okay, I agree with TJ’s point about Mippo. I’d encourage other folks worried about him to reread his first two posts in pseudocycle 3. And exeing Lettuce does seem to be the smart play here.

[Myst He/Him]

Don’t like how quiet it’s been

I really think we should end the pseudo game here

[Divergent He/Him]

20 hours ago, coco.pudding said:

Mainly the fact that we were talking about how he shouldn’t destroy Nalthis in the first couple cycles and then he told me he was going to. (Did that happen? I got killed that cycle so idk) But then it didn’t get destroyed (unless they just didn’t announce it in the write up) so that was a little weird. But destroying that would have roleblocked a lot of villagers which seems like something a villager maybe wouldn’t do. I’d have to look back in my pms for other things but I don’t have enough service now to really load new pages.

Okay, I suppose that’s fair

Hmm

Did you probe him on why he wanted to do that?

6 hours ago, Myst said:

Don’t like how quiet it’s been

I really think we should end the pseudo game here

I'd be down to do it, but also feeling nervous if we've made the wrong read and ending the game now would be the wrong move

But I guess it'd be better to progress things now and hope for the best

Mippo

Lettuce

19 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Okay, I agree with TJ’s point about Mippo. I’d encourage other folks worried about him to reread his first two posts in pseudocycle 3. And exeing Lettuce does seem to be the smart play here.

Checked it and yeah, can see what you're getting at there, though idk if I'd put too much stock into Mippo being v in the metagame for that, since it's weird that Verdance would fumble a fake claim immediately after they were already put on the spotlight for their reaction in Pseudo 2

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Cycle closed! AfterPseudo up shortly

Edited 16 hours ago by The Unknown Medallion