Kit_Kat She/Her Posted June 9 Posted June 9 5 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: ’d agree that Kit Kat is the more suspicious of the two by a decent margin though, since vote manipulation is private. Wait what?? I didn’t know it was private
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Kit_Kat said: Wait what?? I didn’t know it was private It’s private in the sense that it’s an action submitted in the GM PM. At least that’s what I think @Myst was referring to here. Care to clarify?
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 5 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: Care to elaborate on why you’re suspicious of me? Also, anyone got a VC? To be honest, I don't know, but you are still my strongest read.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 5 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: @Araris Valerian You willing to vote KitKat with me? Or would you prefer someone else? Maybe Lettuce? Yeah, I’m fine with Kit Kat.
Mystic He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 51 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: It’s private in the sense that it’s an action submitted in the GM PM. At least that’s what I think @Myst was referring to here. Care to clarify? You pinged the wrong person. Araris said that not me
Divergent He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 11 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: Okay, not sure if you missed this because it was in a MetaCycle or what, but I’ve literally still been going for Hoid. Just because I was wrong about Myst being a MetaElim doesn’t mean I think I’m wrong about Hoid being one. Hmm, yeah I'll get to reading the metathread cycles again 10 hours ago, Through the living Wahr said: So the Thing is the result of the Pseudogame is not as important as the Metagame and is a bit tricky what your wincon is. The Meta Elims bet during N0 if the Pseudo Village or Pseudo Elims will win the Pseudogame and are theoreticly trying to influence the Pseudogame in that direction. The Metavillagers do not want the Bet to succeed and should be trying to get the other outcome, they unfortunately do not know what the Meta Elims have bet on and who they can trust, because allignment between the Game can differ. If the Metaelims win the Bet they get one conversion If the Metaelims loose the Bet, half of the living Metaelims get outed 9 hours ago, Qianweilian said: Basically, as our GM said, throwing the game as either pseudo village or pseudo elim is a legitimate strategy, if you think the meta elims bet on the other side winning. Hmm interesting 5 hours ago, Myst said: @Divergent the meta game is really all we care about. So we’re not really interested in winning the pseudo game, just making it so the meta Elims don’t win their bet. So, things to know: TJ, Hopper, Araris, and Fallen are all cleared in the meta game(Araris is a bit subjective but not too much) as for my brief summary and which parts we know and which parts we don’t, the only part we really don’t is that they bet on an Elim win(that’s my opinion) everything else I think everyone agrees with I see, heard. Personally, I still disagree lol I don't really see why one of the two games has to be devalued just because there's an aspect that interacts with the other game's outcome Then again, I don't have full context since I haven't yet read the other side of the game So, is basically the game plan to hunt for meta elims now? 7 hours ago, coco.pudding said: Yeah, so Myst killed Xino and the elims tried to do a kill but the person who was going to do it got roleblocked because their shard world was destroyed. We don’t know if Xino or Coder tried to do a kill. We’re not doing spreadsheet voting anymore. It’s normal in thread voting now. Y’all really gotta stop trying to double exe me I’m already dead ya know Oh I see, do we know who that person is who got roleblocked? Makes sense, I was wondering about the spreadsheet voting because it looked outdated from when I watched it
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 6 hours ago, CadCom said: Ok. So far, Hoid, Striker, and Araris have all asked if we could, or directly voted for Coco. Oddly enough that gives me townread on all of them. Since COCO IS DEAD HERE. I would think the M!Elims would know that by now and be a bit more coordinated. Even though I have leaned a bit more town on Striker, they're still in my Neutral zone, so I don't know how I feel about voting KitKat, right now. @gms @Through the living Wahr @The Unknown Medallion Maybe this was in the rules but I missed it, but after a pseudo-elim is killed in the pseudo-game, do they still have access to the pseudo-elim doc? and can they still comment in it? Maybe @Hoid Slayer or @xinoehp512 could answer that question since you were both pseudo-killed? Edit. Can I vote for Coco? I have access to the doc but I’m not supposed to talk in it Also yeah @Divergent we’re actively hunting meta-elims, not pseudo-elims, in the pseudogame (I tried to keep up the real game facade a bit but broke it to try to save Myst and it quickly deteriorated from there) There’s a lot of stuff going on but no real synthesis and so I really don’t know who to trust I’m lowkey happy I don’t have to really do anything this cycle cause I’m not following this I wanted to when I joined the game, but ehh that didn’t really work out and I don’t feel like extensive analysis this time around Good luck guys, someone please summarize for the love of Preservation, and I’ll rejoin society in the meta-game
Divergent He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 27 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: I have access to the doc but I’m not supposed to talk in it Also yeah @Divergent we’re actively hunting meta-elims, not pseudo-elims, in the pseudogame (I tried to keep up the real game facade a bit but broke it to try to save Myst and it quickly deteriorated from there) There’s a lot of stuff going on but no real synthesis and so I really don’t know who to trust I’m lowkey happy I don’t have to really do anything this cycle cause I’m not following this I wanted to when I joined the game, but ehh that didn’t really work out and I don’t feel like extensive analysis this time around Good luck guys, someone please summarize for the love of Preservation, and I’ll rejoin society in the meta-game Why did you want to try to save Myst again? I saw it play out, but it wasn't very clear to me why
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 1 minute ago, Divergent said: Why did you want to try to save Myst again? I saw it play out, but it wasn't very clear to me why I didn't believe he was meta-elim due to the fact that the pseudo-elim NK was supposed to be on him, and I was fairly certain that there was a meta-elim mole in the pseudo-elim doc who did not resist
coco.pudding she/they Posted June 10 Posted June 10 58 minutes ago, Divergent said: Oh I see, do we know who that person is who got roleblocked? It was Lettuce. At least that’s according to TJ, but I see no reason why he would lie about that.
Mystic He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 28 minutes ago, coco.pudding said: It was Lettuce. At least that’s according to TJ, but I see no reason why he would lie about that. I thought it was TJ, they were both on Scadrial so I suppose it’s the same thing though
coco.pudding she/they Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Just now, Myst said: I thought it was TJ, they were both on Scadrial so I suppose it’s the same thing though Idk, TJ told me Lettuce. Idk that it really matters tbh.
CadCom he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 3 hours ago, Divergent said: 9 hours ago, Myst said: Expand I see, heard. Personally, I still disagree lol I don't really see why one of the two games has to be devalued just because there's an aspect that interacts with the other game's outcome Then again, I don't have full context since I haven't yet read the other side of the game The way I see it is the meta village wants to throw the pseudo game in the opposite way from how the meta elims want to throw the pseudo game. It's not that the pseudo game doesn't matter, it's just that it matters for different reasons than normal. Plus normally throwing a game can get us banned from SE so for at least somebody, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. We just don't know who has that opportunity I also think it fits with the lore of the story behind the game within a game. If we let the sentient roleplay characters win the game, we make it harder for us to find and root them out of the server. As for my exe vote, If we think TJ and Lettuce are the known pseudo elims, should we be voting for one of them, assuming we think the meta elims voted on an elimination victory? (Do we know Lettuces role? Has that been shared?) I really need to do my own analysis on that. I think Myst is leaning that way, but at least one other person (araris? Maybe?) is leaning that they bet on a pseudo village victory. I suppose that analysis will be easier after we get an anonymous coinshots kill at the very least, but a meta-elim flip would be even more desirable. I'll be back on shortly before rollover to read any responses and reconsider my vote.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 34 minutes ago, CadCom said: As for my exe vote, If we think TJ and Lettuce are the known pseudo elims, should we be voting for one of them, assuming we think the meta elims voted on an elimination victory? (Do we know Lettuces role? Has that been shared?) TJ’s dead in the MetaGame. He was a MetaVillager. I could be persuaded towards a Lettuce exe though. It’s been long enough that I think the newbie card is out of play now.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 EDIT: @Through The Living Star @Qianweilian @Through the Living Hopper @CadCom @Divergent @___ @Questioning Lettuce For transparency’s sake, and because most people already know this anyway, I would like to point out that I have a legitimately absurd stockpile of Investiture right now. I don’t want to have to do this, but if the exe is set to get me (or it’s too close for comfort), I will be spending some today in order to not die. Just putting that out there in case this inspires any of y’all to change or add a vote elsewhere. 1
Divergent He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 10 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said: I didn't believe he was meta-elim due to the fact that the pseudo-elim NK was supposed to be on him, and I was fairly certain that there was a meta-elim mole in the pseudo-elim doc who did not resist Ahh I see that makes sense, do you still think a mole exists or not anymore? 8 hours ago, CadCom said: The way I see it is the meta village wants to throw the pseudo game in the opposite way from how the meta elims want to throw the pseudo game. It's not that the pseudo game doesn't matter, it's just that it matters for different reasons than normal. Plus normally throwing a game can get us banned from SE so for at least somebody, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. We just don't know who has that opportunity I also think it fits with the lore of the story behind the game within a game. If we let the sentient roleplay characters win the game, we make it harder for us to find and root them out of the server. As for my exe vote, If we think TJ and Lettuce are the known pseudo elims, should we be voting for one of them, assuming we think the meta elims voted on an elimination victory? (Do we know Lettuces role? Has that been shared?) I really need to do my own analysis on that. I think Myst is leaning that way, but at least one other person (araris? Maybe?) is leaning that they bet on a pseudo village victory. I suppose that analysis will be easier after we get an anonymous coinshots kill at the very least, but a meta-elim flip would be even more desirable. I'll be back on shortly before rollover to read any responses and reconsider my vote. Why do you think that the meta elims voted for an elim victory? And I kinda thought that the current game state was like, that we're not going for either an elim or village victory rn, but rather prolonging the pseudogame to give us leeway for the meta game, is that not what people are doing? I would be willing to consider voting the known elim though But also don't feel very certain that the meta elims bet on a pseudo elim win, so feeling hesitant about sending one out, if that would mean there's only potentially 1 or 2 left after an exe 7 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: EDIT: @Through The Living Star @Qianweilian @Through the Living Hopper @CadCom @Divergent @___ @Questioning Lettuce For transparency’s sake, and because most people already know this anyway, I would like to point out that I have a legitimately absurd stockpile of Investiture right now. I don’t want to have to do this, but if the exe is set to get me (or it’s too close for comfort), I will be spending some today in order to not die. Just putting that out there in case this inspires any of y’all to change or add a vote elsewhere. I'm seeing you're voting Kit_Kat, I could be convinced to vote there, but I need to know the reasons why
CadCom he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 12 minutes ago, Divergent said: Ahh I see that makes sense, do you still think a mole exists or not anymore? Why do you think that the meta elims voted for an elim victory? And I kinda thought that the current game state was like, that we're not going for either an elim or village victory rn, but rather prolonging the pseudogame to give us leeway for the meta game, is that not what people are doing? I would be willing to consider voting the known elim though But also don't feel very certain that the meta elims bet on a pseudo elim win, so feeling hesitant about sending one out, if that would mean there's only potentially 1 or 2 left after an exe I'm seeing you're voting Kit_Kat, I could be convinced to vote there, but I need to know the reasons why As for the questions for me, The current game state is one of confusion. I see it as at least 3 different village sectors competing against each other. At least one, possibly all 3 have elim influence. 1. Meta elims voted for elim victory. Kill elims. 2. We don't know how elims voted. Try to kill meta elims in pseudo game so that they have less power. 3. Meta elims want village victory. Kill village. Why do we thinks meta elims voted on elim victory? I honestly don't know. I'm relying a bit on Myst's interpretation since he's cleared. I hope to do my own analysis and form my own opinion during the next 48 hours. As for the vote on KitKat, I believe that train has something to do with KitKat protecting Myst the cycle must survived the exe through not reaching the meta vote threshold, which occurred due to vote manipulation. I read it either as a village trying to protect someone they see as village or a elim trying to prolong and raise suspicion at another villager. So the vote against KitKat here wouldn't flip their role in the Meta game, but It would stop them from using their pseudo game power to influence the Meta game.
Divergent He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 23 minutes ago, CadCom said: As for the questions for me, The current game state is one of confusion. I see it as at least 3 different village sectors competing against each other. At least one, possibly all 3 have elim influence. 1. Meta elims voted for elim victory. Kill elims. 2. We don't know how elims voted. Try to kill meta elims in pseudo game so that they have less power. 3. Meta elims want village victory. Kill village. Why do we thinks meta elims voted on elim victory? I honestly don't know. I'm relying a bit on Myst's interpretation since he's cleared. I hope to do my own analysis and form my own opinion during the next 48 hours. As for the vote on KitKat, I believe that train has something to do with KitKat protecting Myst the cycle must survived the exe through not reaching the meta vote threshold, which occurred due to vote manipulation. I read it either as a village trying to protect someone they see as village or a elim trying to prolong and raise suspicion at another villager. So the vote against KitKat here wouldn't flip their role in the Meta game, but It would stop them from using their pseudo game power to influence the Meta game. Yeah it feels weird in that 5 out of 6 of the revealed roles in the pseudogame are coinshots and yet the death count has followed a standard of 1 death per night. Is it correct that not all of those people were originally coinshots? If so, it could be that they're aiming for an elim win Hmm do you have other reasons to trust Striker beyond him voting for dead people? I was thinking we could keep votes on him and then let him save himself and exe Kit Kat via investiture to reduce both of their potential impact to the meta game
Wahrheitswächter He/Him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 friendly reminder that you have 1 hour till rollover to submitt any Actions @Through The Living Star @StrikerEZ @Qianweilian @Through the Living Hopper @CadCom @Divergent @___ @Araris Valerian @|TJ| @Kit_Kat @Questioning Lettuce @Miss Fallen
|TJ| he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Bah, sorry - had a busy couple of days. I can confirm I do get the results of the changes the cycle I died. There was only 1 conversion during the last cycle, which makes me believe one of Hoid/Coco promoted themselves and I'm leaning towards Coco. I don't think "no one has tried to kill pseudo-elims" is a good enough reason to think meta-elims have bet on pseudo-elim victory. Kit Kat
CadCom he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Ehh. Lettuce kit Kat. No one joined me on my lettuce exe.
The Unknown Character he/him Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 LG112 - Metacycle Four: The Hunt For Redtired Modtober The mods were on the hunt. They had tracked down all but a few of the lost mods. “I found one!” A message popped into the chat. Questions flooded in. They sent a message to the old mod. The old mod started typing a reply. … They waited in anticipation. … This was it. They could almost regain control of the Shard. … You have been blocked. Cries of dismay filled the chat. A new message appeared from an unknown user. “Tin Capone sends his regards.” ~ The Unseen Deity looked at the Shard, they had really hoped that the mods finally had made some Progress, but No, Tin had to appear out of nothing and thwart their plans, where was Preservation? They were supposed to Stop Tin but it didn't seem like they did a very good job. Maybe he should have summoned a more aggressive shard. ~ Striker has been killed by the elims! He was a Village Tineye. TJ has been killed by the Shades! He was an Elim Coinshot. KitKat has been executed! They were a Village Vanilla. Vote Count: Striker (2) Divergent, Hopper Kit Kat (4) Striker, Araris, TJ, CadCom, This cycle will end on Friday the 12th of June at 11:00 AM Central Time. Players: Spoiler @coco.pudding as Coco Village Coinshot @Through The Living Star as Star @CoderDrag0n8 as Coder Village Coinshot, SE Player Retiree @Myst as Mistake Village Coinshot, SE Player Vanilla @StrikerEZ as Striker Village Tineye @Qianweilian as Qianweilian @Through the Living Hopper as Hopper SE Player Roleplayer @CadCom as Cam @Verdance as Verdance Village Tineye @TwinStorm as TwinStorm -> replaced by @Divergent @Hoid Slayer as Hoid Slayer Elim Coinshot @___ as Mippo @xinoehp512 as Xinoehp512 Elim Coinshot @Araris Valerian as Araris Valerian @|TJ| as TJ SE Player PseudoIM Elim Coinshot @Kit_Kat as Kit Kat Village Vanilla @Questioning Lettuce as Questioning Lettuce @Miss Fallen SE Player Thread Controller 2
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 10 Posted June 10 The pseudo-game has 8 players left and probably just one elim. I guess I’d be interested to know who TJ targeted, and whether he got himself killed deliberately (I doubt it). Like I said last turn, I think we should exe Verdance this cycle. If we are about to win the pseudo-game we don’t want to see his name as one of the free flips.
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