Long Game 110? [Sign Ups]: Termina Abandoned (A Majora's Mask Mafia Adventure)

[|TJ| he/him]

True, maybe. 

I think, at the end, the questions is "Can we explain a Burnt/Stick/Doc (or Coco)/TwinStorm team?", and if we're finding it difficult to do so, we have our answer which leads to e!Hael. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

24 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

True, maybe. 

I think, at the end, the questions is "Can we explain a Burnt/Stick/Doc (or Coco)/TwinStorm team?", and if we're finding it difficult to do so, we have our answer which leads to e!Hael. 

Yeah. Earlier I had been consider Mist as a potential elim (to fill the Doc/coco slot), but that relied on you being elim as well which just doesn’t fit anymore.

[Myst He/Him]

Random thought I had. If we somehow exed all three Elims this loop. And we exe the same people next loop(since we know it works) which would leave Burnt as a final Elim to exe for the tiebreaker.

but what if the Elims NK burnt? That leaves us with no Elims alive for the tiebreaker, as we automatically lose, since we can’t exe an Elim. 

@Amanuensis what would happen in that? Could we lose by being too good?

[Amanuensis he/him]

4 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Random thought I had. If we somehow exed all three Elims this loop. And we exe the same people next loop(since we know it works) which would leave Burnt as a final Elim to exe for the tiebreaker.

but what if the Elims NK burnt? That leaves us with no Elims alive for the tiebreaker, as we automatically lose, since we can’t exe an Elim. 

@Amanuensis what would happen in that? Could we lose by being too good?

If all elims die before D4-D then there is no D4-D and village wins 

[Archer he/him]

E!Coco saying that pinch hitters are more likely to be evil when two of their teammates are PHs is wild behaviour 

I'll defer to the majority Stick Hael 

I'd still like to hear from Ashbringer, if Hael can be trusted

[Haelbarde he/him]

Wasn’t sure if I was going to get anything from Ash based on some of his earlier comments, but the chaos of y’all seems to have convinced him otherwise.

He is amenable to sharing but he’s doing it sensibly. He wants me to first post his opinions on things, and then provided I do that accurately, he’ll share something I could use to verify it is coming from him, that way I can’t get the verification from him and then make up the content of his messages.

He’s asked me to communicate 5 things.

1. He doesn’t overly trust any of the D2 dead, but would tend to trust Drake more than the rest of them. He can’t see there being any logic behind the eliminators night killing Drake if Drake were evil
2.  He emphatically (in the sense that italics was involved rather than in terms of super duper does not trust me. I think he wanted to be clear he doesn’t overly trust me, but this is a digression from his point) does not trust me, but is willing to say that as far as he can tell (though I don’t believe he’s studied it closely) I have relayed the Dead Doc faithfully, and that importantly Drake did relay to the doc that Stick targeted him.
3. To @Archer, he wanted me to say that he’s doing this as a favour. Although he did not spell favour with a u and he laughed afterwards.
4. To @Doc12, he wanted me to communicate something that I think I have to paraphrase as ‘Plan Hot Sauce’ is still something he would like to see happen, irrespective of what’s happened.
5. He wanted me to ping @Wahrheitswächter, @The Unknown Medallion, @Ashbringer

He’s also noted that there is vote manip in play so it’s going to be important for everyone to be voting.

He expresses that he would like people to at least consider the e!Stick possibility to see if it works without just relying on any of his past comments on the matter.

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(I'm going to be in classes/on buses for the next 6 hours. I'll have some opportunity to check in, but I'm not likely to be able to do any larger posts until I get home)

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

@Wahrheitswächter

I kinda want to say the thing, if you know what I mean

Edit: I don't think not having this info out would help that much 

[Haelbarde he/him]

Alright, I'm having to paraphrase, and Ash isn't still in the doc to confirm my paraphrase, but I can pass on that Ash has communicated that in the Loop 1 dead doc, his colour was magenta while TUM used the colour of fire trucks and Wahr used the colour of healthy grass. He commented that he did not make the doc look any better, and that Wahr only spoke on the third day.

[Doc12]

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

@Wahrheitswächter

I kinda want to say the thing, if you know what I mean

Edit: I don't think not having this info out would help that much 

I was gonna wait to see if Hael/Archer said anything else before saying anything. But yeah I don't know if waiting any longer will reveal that much beyond that Archer was trying to defend Hael. 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

I can confirm that 

Can someone remind me who Hael's teammate would be, hypothetically?

Just now, Doc12 said:

I was gonna wait to see if Hael/Archer said anything else before saying anything. But yeah I don't know if waiting any longer will reveal that much beyond that Archer was trying to defend Hael. 

Lol, I was being vague enough that it would be hard to figure out

[Haelbarde he/him]

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

I can confirm that 

Just to check, was that in response to my message about Ash's verification info, or to Doc's post?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Just now, Haelbarde said:

Just to check, was that in response to my message about Ash's verification info, or to Doc's post?

Ash's info

[Haelbarde he/him]

I know TUM has already accepted the verification, but Ash has clarified that his colour was not bright like magenta is, being desaturated more like that paler skin colour with almost blue undertones. 

[Archer he/him]

59 minutes ago, Haelbarde said:

To @Archer, he wanted me to say that he’s doing this as a favour. Although he did not spell favour with a u and he laughed afterwards.

He's a nice guy, so we overlook his incomprehensible accent. 

There was probably an elim in the L1 dead doc, so Ash isn't being super helpful. Nor is including Doc, who is technically a suspect. I guess that's his prerogative. 

If there's a sting operation going on, I'm glad you're doing it, but I will be doing my own secret missions so I don't feel left out. Mistfallen, 15 has 4.

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Archer said:

He's a nice guy, so we overlook his incomprehensible accent. 

There was probably an elim in the L1 dead doc, so Ash isn't being super helpful. Nor is including Doc, who is technically a suspect. I guess that's his prerogative. 

If there's a sting operation going on, I'm glad you're doing it, but I will be doing my own secret missions so I don't feel left out. Mistfallen, 15 has 4.

There can’t have been an Elim, they got hard cleared

Edit: thanks, 13 has 10

Edited March 15 by Mistfallen Soldier

[Haelbarde he/him]

12 minutes ago, Archer said:

There was probably an elim in the L1 dead doc, so Ash isn't being super helpful. Nor is including Doc, who is technically a suspect. I guess that's his prerogative. 

Loop 1 had 3 deaths and Elim win. 9:4 is elim win but 10:3 is not.

Loop 2 dead could be all village, but 1 Elim is possible, likely, and if Drake can be trusted, had one Elim in the form of Stick.

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

The only way that Hael is currently lying is if an elim got the Captain's Hat during Loop A. As far as I recall, the only people who could afford that were myself (assuming I lied about Bunny Hood) and Mist, so any e!Hael team must also include e!Wonko or e!Mistfallen.

Unless I'm missing someone who got max rupees D1A? Can someone with actual notes check me?

Edited March 15 by Wonko the Sane

[Stick. she/her]

did anyone claim captain L1?

 

@Amanuensis is the captain able to stay hidden if they want/not have themself listed in the usernames at the top of the dead doc? or is that automatically just there 

[Wonko the Sane he/him]

Oh, Stick, by the way. Sorry, forgot in my last post. I have an alternative plan that I'm currently running by Aman, though, so my vote might move.

[Haelbarde he/him]

2 minutes ago, Stick. said:

did anyone claim captain L1?

 

@Amanuensis is the captain able to stay hidden if they want/not have themself listed in the usernames at the top of the dead doc? or is that automatically just there 

When I joined, there was an entry in the player list for the Hat but it did not have my user name, so I could have remained anonymous if I had wanted.

4 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said:

The only way that Hael is currently lying is if an elim got the Captain's Hat during Loop A. As far as I recall, the only people who could afford that were myself (assuming I liked about Bunny Hood) and Mist, so any e!Hael team must also include e!Wonko or e!Mistfallen.

Unless I'm missing someone who got max rupees D1A? Can someone with actual notes check me?

Good point, I hadn't considered the possibility of a Captain's Hat in that dead doc.

[Stick. she/her]

i think a captain is the straightfoward answer but also, if it's burnt/coco/archer/hael then i can see them planning ahead for contingencies and just having coco casually talk to ash about the L1 dead doc earlier this loop in a non-game-related way - it checks out with archer repeatedly asking hael to relay info from ash but idk if the team is that sweaty lol

more likely captain,, maybe coco had it 

[Myst He/Him]

It’s always possible we didn’t have a captains hat loop 1

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

  

3 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Random thought I had. If we somehow exed all three Elims this loop. And we exe the same people next loop(since we know it works) which would leave Burnt as a final Elim to exe for the tiebreaker.

but what if the Elims NK burnt? That leaves us with no Elims alive for the tiebreaker, as we automatically lose, since we can’t exe an Elim. 

@Amanuensis what would happen in that? Could we lose by being too good?

Hey, I've been trying to get into the dead doc all game and it keeps not happening. As Aman pointed out, tiebreaker requires one elim alive. I'm never getting into that doc. I'm doomed to live 

[Archer he/him]

I forgot about that, never mind, it was a good signal. 

Did anyone buy the Captain's Hat L1? I thought we assumed no one did, but didn't have verification. 

Mistfallen, understood. 

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

I want in on all the special codes. 11 has 13