Question and Answer

[Yata he/him]

Another Hemalurgy question:

If you stab someone with a spike taking, say, Allomantic iron and then spike Allomantic iron out of another Lurcher with the same spike, and then spike the power into yourself, will you gain more power? Basically, can spikes stack power?

I don't think the Spike will stack power in that way... I don't think there is a lot of interference but in the end in that Spike you will find two "set" of Spirit Web with Iron Allomancy. Just one of them may be implanted in a specific portion of your Spirit Web.

Anyway if this would be possible, with a single Atium Spike you may (in theory) collect every 32 Metallic Arts's power in a single Spike (One Spike to rule them all)... Something tell me that this thing is impossible but at the moment I can't say why without going in a "Spoiler zone"

[Master_Moridin he/him]

I don't think the Spike will stack power in that way... I don't think there is a lot of interference but in the end in that Spike you will find two "set" of Spirit Web with Iron Allomancy. Just one of them may be implanted in a specific portion of your Spirit Web.

Anyway if this would be possible, with a single Atium Spike you may (in theory) collect every 32 Metallic Arts's power in a single Spike (One Spike to rule them all)... Something tell me that this thing is impossible but at the moment I can't say why without going in a "Spoiler zone"

I could see it being possible if instead of putting multiple spiritweb chunks into the spike, they sorta...stacked.  A soul is Connections and Investiture, so if you're stealing Connections maybe stealing the same ability again would just make those Connections stronger.

 

If it's Investiture I could definitely see that just filling the spike more.

 

You could probably also get around the "multiple abilities in one Atium spike" issue by invoking investiture interference.  I want to say there's a WoB on whether you can double-up in one spike, but I haven't been able to find it.

[Nashan’Elin he/him]

I don't think the Spike will stack power in that way... I don't think there is a lot of interference but in the end in that Spike you will find two "set" of Spirit Web with Iron Allomancy. Just one of them may be implanted in a specific portion of your Spirit Web.

Anyway if this would be possible, with a single Atium Spike you may (in theory) collect every 32 Metallic Arts's power in a single Spike (One Spike to rule them all)... Something tell me that this thing is impossible but at the moment I can't say why without going in a "Spoiler zone"

Ok, but I was thinking if you take two spike's worth of power the spike would become more Hemalurgically charged, like filling a metalmind more.

[Yata he/him]

Well Master_Moridin said there is a WoB about a double powered Spike, therefore I was wrong.

But to me a Metalmind and a Spike are two very different things... A metalmind is quite raw Investiture (with some flavour but in the end there isn't any ... "functional part"), a Spike contains a piece of SpiritWeb a precise structure of Connections. In my mind simply overlapping two Spiritwebs didn't create a better SpiritWeb (yeah I know that Moridin's WoB made cleat that I am wrong about this point).

[Master_Moridin he/him]

Well Master_Moridin said there is a WoB about a double powered Spike, therefore I was wrong.

But to me a Metalmind and a Spike are two very different things... A metalmind is quite raw Investiture (with some flavour but in the end there isn't any ... "functional part"), a Spike contains a piece of SpiritWeb a precise structure of Connections. In my mind simply overlapping two Spiritwebs didn't create a better SpiritWeb (yeah I know that Moridin's WoB made cleat that I am wrong about this point).

I said I want to say there's one about whether you can or not.  I didn't say there was one that confirms it, and I also didn't say there is even a WoB on the topic for certain.  I just seem to remember seeing one.

[Yata he/him]

I said I want to say there's one about whether you can or not.  I didn't say there was one that confirms it, and I also didn't say there is even a WoB on the topic for certain.  I just seem to remember seeing one.

Sorry I have misread your post 

[Eagle of the Forest Path he/him]

Another Hemalurgy question:

If you stab someone with a spike taking, say, Allomantic iron and then spike Allomantic iron out of another Lurcher with the same spike, and then spike the power into yourself, will you gain more power? Basically, can spikes stack power?

 

 

It is definitely possible for some attributes, namely the 'Human' attributes. That is basically what happened when the Koloss started reusing spikes after TLR's death. I'm not so sure about investiture-based attributes, like allomancy and feruchemy, but I don't see any reason why they should be any different.

[AliasSheep]

Do we know if Seon bonds grant anything to the human participant whilst on Sel?

And also what happens to an unbonded Seon?

[Jondesu he/him]

Do we know if Seon bonds grant anything to the human participant whilst on Sel?

And also what happens to an unbonded Seon?

We know it would do something similar, but that doesn't mean surges. We don't really know what would happen yet.

I don't know that an unbonded Seon could even travel to Roshar.

jW

[The Sovereign]

Do we know if Seon bonds grant anything to the human participant whilst on Sel?

And also what happens to an unbonded Seon?

 

As far as we know there doesn't seem to be anything granted whilst on Sel. The only implication we know of is the effect on a Bonded Seon when their Bondee goes through the Shaod.

 

We know it would do something similar, but that doesn't mean surges. We don't really know what would happen yet.

I don't know that an unbonded Seon could even travel to Roshar.

jW

 

The WoB Supporting this:

 

 

Interview: Mar 20th, 2014

WOR Signing Report - IronCaf (Paraphrased)

Outis

If an Elantrian bonded to a Seon and traveled to Roshar, would that act as a Nahel bond?

Brandon Sanderson

It would act very very similarly, yes. But it would be like… it wouldn't necesarily do the exact same things. It would be treated the exact same way, but wouldn't grant the same powers.

Tags

seon, nahel bond, roshar,

[Jondesu he/him]

Lol, I totally misread the question. On Sel, the bond simply seems to grant the Seons undying loyalty and the ability to pass that bond to someone else.

jW

[WayneSpren he/him]

Do we know if Hoid is Spiked?

[The Sovereign]

Do we know if Hoid is Spiked?

 

Doubtful, If he is, he didn't do it to himself.

 

 

Interview: Jan 17th, 2015

Firefight Tour - El Cerrito, CA (Paraphrased)

Question

Aha! Yes! Uh, ok, second thing. My brother and I have been debating about Hoid and how he got his abilities. We have a couple theories. One of them is Hemalurgy.

Brandon Sanderson

Ok…

Question

The other has to do with the portals into the worlds themselves, because the birds in Sixth of Dusk-

Brandon Sanderson

Ok, he does not have Hemalurgy. He has powers that predate the Shattering of Adonalsium. Not all of his powers predate, but he does have powers that predate.

Question

Ok, so I was wrong on both counts then… Am I wrong on both counts?

Brandon Sanderson

I’m not saying that. I’m saying that he has powers that predate, and has gained powers since.

Tags

hoid, hemalurgy, cosmere,

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

Can anyone remember if it's been asked/answered if others (groups/people we know) in the Cosmere know of/have used Haemalurgy apart from the Denizens of Scadrial? (Excluding Trell related possibilities) IIRC, it isn't well known yet but my memory is scattered on the subject.

[The Sovereign]

Can anyone remember if it's been asked/answered if others (groups/people we know) in the Cosmere know of/have used Haemalurgy apart from the Denizens of Scadrial? (Excluding Trell related possibilities) IIRC, it isn't well known yet but my memory is scattered on the subject.

 

Well, Kriss and Nazh know about it for sure. I think it is a fair guess that some of the more Cosmerically aware groups know about Hemalurgy, the GhostBloods for example. With that said, I don't believe we have ever gotten official confirmation.

[Oversleep]

Do we know whether Reverse Lashing works less on Invested Objects? Because Basic Lashing requires infusing the object with Stormlight, but Reverse Lashing creates a gravitaty field. Shardblades interact normally with gravity, so I'd expect that Reverse Lashing works just as well on Invested Objects as on regular ones...

[Eki]

Do we know whether Reverse Lashing works less on Invested Objects? Because Basic Lashing requires infusing the object with Stormlight, but Reverse Lashing creates a gravitaty field. Shardblades interact normally with gravity, so I'd expect that Reverse Lashing works just as well on Invested Objects as on regular ones...

I think there are some quirks, like objects not touching the ground being affected less than they otherwise would by the lashing... that would imply there's some Connection shenanigans going on, rather than just a normal gravitational field. I'm not sure though.

[Oversleep]

I think there are some quirks, like objects not touching the ground being affected less than they otherwise would by the lashing... that would imply there's some Connection shenanigans going on, rather than just a normal gravitational field. I'm not sure though.

Well, Ars Arcanum talks about Windrunners canceling Spiritual gravitational connection to the planet and temporarily binding it in another direction.

So it seems that gravity also has Three Aspects. And you can manipulate it by manipulating the Spiritual Aspect of gravity.

In fact, Ars Arcanum says that Reverse Lashing creates a bubble imitating its spiritual connection to the ground below. It is suspected it is a specialized version of Basic Lashing.

So there shouldn't be any problem with attracting Invested Objects - interference of Investiture doesn't occur, as you're infusing something else; and Invested Objects interact with gravity normally, so I'd say that yes, Reverse Lashing works on everything.

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

Anyone know if Elantris 10th AE is getting a UK release in any format? :\

[Asperity he/him]

I may have actually asked this before but have we been given any official description of what Adonalsium's physical shape--if it even has one--looks like? I always imagine it as a silver sphere.

[Landis963 he/him]

I may have actually asked this before but have we been given any official description of what Adonalsium's physical shape--if it even has one--looks like? I always imagine it as a silver sphere.

 

Short answer: no.  Long answer: The Shards - especially those that Invest themselves into a planet- don't have a physical form, per se.  The closest we get are the avatars they create when they want to talk with people in the Cognitive Realm (and even then they are only present in the Cognitive Realm).  I only imagine the same would be true of Adonalsium.  

[Jondesu he/him]

Short answer: no. Long answer: The Shards - especially those that Invest themselves into a planet- don't have a physical form, per se. The closest we get are the avatars they create when they want to talk with people in the Cognitive Realm (and even then they are only present in the Cognitive Realm). I only imagine the same would be true of Adonalsium.

Didn't we see something like that with Ruin and Preservation when Sazed picked them up? I can't recall if they were just gaseous or if we saw something like a crystal (that's what I had in my mind). Don't have the book handy right now to check.

jW

[The Sovereign]

Short answer: no.  Long answer: The Shards - especially those that Invest themselves into a planet- don't have a physical form, per se.  The closest we get are the avatars they create when they want to talk with people in the Cognitive Realm (and even then they are only present in the Cognitive Realm).  I only imagine the same would be true of Adonalsium.  

 

This is not quite correct, the Vessel's physical body still exists but is in a sort of cold storage in the Cognitive realm. When the Vessel dies the body is released back into the Physical realm (I.E. Leras' body falling out of the mists after Elend's interaction with the Mist Spirit and Vin and Ati's bodies appearing after their clash). As for a Physical aspect of the Shard's power itself, Atium and Lerasium are both physical manifestations of the Power of Ruin and Preservation respectively.

 

Didn't we see something like that with Ruin and Preservation when Sazed picked them up? I can't recall if they were just gaseous or if we saw something like a crystal (that's what I had in my mind). Don't have the book handy right now to check.

jW

 

There was a physical manifestation of the shards power that appears in what I had interpreted as swirling beams of light. This is what Sazed puts his hands into to take in Ruin and Preservation.

 

[Jondesu he/him]

There was a physical manifestation of the shards power that appears in what I had interpreted as swirling beams of light. This is what Sazed puts his hands into to take in Ruin and Preservation.

Ah, that's right. Doesn't it say something like "cords of energy"? Either way, a non-solid Physical manifestation. I wonder if splintering would require that to condense in some way into a solid physical form that can literally be shattered? I doubt it, but an interesting possibility.

jW

[Runyan Firetree]

Do we know, either in-text or via WoB, if multiple people received high storm visions at the same time or were they limited to 1 individual or just bondsmith candidates?  Gavilar died in 1167, an unnamed potter received visions during the 2 years prior to his death on Kaktach 1173; I'm not sure if that date is prior to Dalinar receiving his visions.