Question and Answer

[Jondesu he/him]

Wait, what's that about a potter getting the visions?

jW

[Runyan Firetree]

Wait, what's that about a potter getting the visions?

jW

 

Mentioned in one of the death rattle notations, although there's not enough evidence to assume they were the same visions but it's the only other highstorm vision that I'm aware of besides Gavilar & Dalinar.

 

>Subject was a middle-aged potter who reported seeing strange dreams during highstorms during the previous two years

Edited May 27, 2016 by runyan_ft

[Eki]

On a person with the Royal Locks, is ALL hair Royal? Including beard and body hair?

I think the answer is "technically yes, but they don't really know that" since apparently the Locks allow for more body modification than has been shown in the books.

That would still make the head hair special, since it changes involuntarily. Was there some reference to the King's beard or anything, though?

[Oversleep]

I told someone that Nahel bond makes spren closer to the Physical Realm and human closer to Cognitive. But then, when asked for sources, I couldn't find any.

Did I make that up or is there a WoB out there?

[Jondesu he/him]

I told someone that Nahel bond makes spren closer to the Physical Realm and human closer to Cognitive. But then, when asked for sources, I couldn't find any.

Did I make that up or is there a WoB out there?

I had the same thought, but it may have just been from you or someone else saying it.  I don't recall seeing a WoB specifically.

 

I did find this that covers half of it, though:

 

 

 

Q:  Where was Pattern before Shallan drew him?

A:  He was around. The bonding process had started when Shallan was young but then she pushed him away and he withdrew mostly to the Cognitive realm until the bonding was started again and she pulled him fully into the physical when she drew him.

From this thread: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/6605-words-of-brandon-compiled/

 

jW

[Oversleep]

Another question: are there any WoBs out there about Shattering of Honor? Specifically, I recall that Honor Shattered into spren and that they were some sort of release valve that Sel, for example, lacked.

I don't know if this is confirmed or just another production of my mind, either.

P.S. I am compiling some knowledge about basic concepts of cosmere so I tend to question a lot. Is that theory? Was that confirmed? And so on.

[Jondesu he/him]

Another question: are there any WoBs out there about Shattering of Honor? Specifically, I recall that Honor Shattered into spren and that they were some sort of release valve that Sel, for example, lacked.

I don't know if this is confirmed or just another production of my mind, either.

P.S. I am compiling some knowledge about basic concepts of cosmere so I tend to question a lot. Is that theory? Was that confirmed? And so on.

Pretty sure I've seen a WoB saying there are more spren now after the splintering of Honor, though not more types. It's entirely possible they acted as a release valve, but considering Honor's power isn't raging unchecked in the Cognitive, that might not have been needed.

jW

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Could a drab become returned?

[Eki]

Could a drab become returned?

Brandon has said that drabs don't Return.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Interesting. Well thanks.

Also, slightly related, though less likely to have an answer out there... I believe somewhere it has been said that people from planets other than nalthis don't possess any biochromatic breath. Does this mean that their perception of the colors around them paralells that of someone with a single breath, or that of a drab?

[Eki]

Interesting. Well thanks.

Also, slightly related, though less likely to have an answer out there... I believe somewhere it has been said that people from planets other than nalthis don't possess any biochromatic breath. Does this mean that their perception of the colors around them paralells that of someone with a single breath, or that of a drab?

I don't know about color perception specifically, but I believe a non-Nalthian is somewhere between a drab and a Nalthian with one Breath, in terms of... how much spiritweb they have, or something. I'd guess they are closer to one Breath, but I don't think we know that.

So yeah, a native person from Nalthis with one Breath probably has better color perception than someone not from Nalthis who doesn't have Breath. But a drab is worse than both.

However, perfect color perception takes 600 Breaths, so that one first Breath might not make that much of a difference.

[The Sovereign]

Brandon has said that drabs don't Return.

 

Relevent WoB:

 

Interview: Nov 8th, 2011

Alloy of Law Midnight Release (Verbatim)

Zas678

Can a Drab Return?

Brandon Sanderson

A Drab can not Return as the Returned are known, and there are things about the Drab that are not completely understood. But a Drab without a Breath, it’s going to be very hard. Drabs do not Return. Good question, by the way. No one has ever asked me that before.

Tags

awakening, warbreaker, cosmere, realmatic theory,

 

 

[Magestar he/him]

I've got lots of questions today.

 

1.  Can someone with a huge amount of Breath, say, Susebron or Vasher, give away their Divine Breath, and somehow use their vast sum of normal breath to stay alive?  

 

2.  How much of a persons cognitive aspect/shadow, or soul web can you steal with hemalurgy?  

 

3.  Would a type IV awakened object steal investiture from another?

 

4.  Can Soul-Forgery be used to alter a persons cognitive aspect?  I feel like it is more the spiritual aspect.  However, I was wondering if you can use it to alter something like Hemalurgy does.

 

5.  Could you awaken a Hemalurgic spike to use it's power in some way?  Or A metal mind to release itself, with itself as a focus?

[Yata he/him]

I've got lots of questions today.

 

1.  Can someone with a huge amount of Breath, say, Susebron or Vasher, give away their Divine Breath, and somehow use their vast sum of normal breath to stay alive?  

 

2.  How much of a persons cognitive aspect/shadow, or soul web can you steal with hemalurgy?  

 

3.  Would a type IV awakened object steal investiture from another?

 

4.  Can Soul-Forgery be used to alter a persons cognitive aspect?  I feel like it is more the spiritual aspect.  However, I was wondering if you can use it to alter something like Hemalurgy does.

 

5.  Could you awaken a Hemalurgic spike to use it's power in some way?  Or A metal mind to release itself, with itself as a focus?

1) He will die...The Divine Breath is a Splinter of Endowment who manage to keep alive a dead body (probably using the weekly Investiture to resist the call of the Beyond)... without that, you have only a deadman with tons of Breath and after a couple of seconds, just a deadman.

2) As ras as we know only specific and very limited pieces... just look at what the metals we know may steal.

3) No idea at all, but probably if both have the same ability it would balance themself

4) I don't understand well the question, we saw the Essence Mark, something that rebuild your whole self... I think it's a good "cognitive change".... Can you explain better the part about Hemalurgy ?

5) The first was asked and Recive a RAFO, the second to me is harder to performe.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Yata

[Magestar he/him]

4) I don't understand well the question, we saw the Essence Mark, something that rebuild your whole self... I think it's a good "cognitive change".... Can you explain better the part about Hemalurgy ?

Essence Marks have to do with Connections(I think.), which is a Spiritual thing(I think.). I.E. Duralumin, which deals with connections, is a spiritual metal.  Hemalurgy effects a Cognitive change, changing your spirit web, which I think is Cognitive and Spiritual, by basically stapling other things on.  Hemalurgy is not effected by how probable a change is.  Soul Forgery is.  I was wondering if you could use soul forgery, in some way, maybe in conjunction with Hemalurgy, to effect an improbable change.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Magestar

[Yata he/him]

Ok I understood what you meant and I am unsure about specific part of the answer you want but you have wrong in some things (and I think it's better to make it clear):

Spirit Aspect, Soul and Spirit Web are the same thing and is only Spiritual.

A Cognitive Aspect is how you "see" yourself and how the other see you.

A Soul is a web of Connection to place, time and object made by raw Investiture. And like you said of course "Connection is a Spiritual thing".

Hemalurgy works only as "Spiritual Genetic Enginering". It removes/adds portions of Spirit Web from someone....There is no Cognitive Aspect changes for the Hemalurgy itself....maybe just as side effect.

The Soul Forgery (or just Forgery) works editing the Connection to someone/something SpiritWeb... it's a low Investiture Magic System and this creates problem because the Soul may "notice" that something is wrong and overcome the Forgery.

In the end also Hemalurgy is a low Investiture Magic System but the Hemalurgy didn't create problems with the Soul because didn't change the past... From the Soul's PoV a New part of Spirit Web implanted with Hemalurgy isn't different from a new Connection that may be creates in a Human's SpiritWeb from life's experience.... The Forgery instead changes something the Soul know... and if the change is too relevant, the Soul push to the normal state.

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

Anyone else notice the capitalisation of Vessel when referring to Siri in Warbreaker? (Probably nothing but given SH's recent terminology, it is odd)

[Eki]

Anyone else notice the capitalisation of Vessel when referring to Siri in Warbreaker? (Probably nothing but given SH's recent terminology, it is odd)

Yeah, I think that was just a God King Priesthood thing, the title of the one who would carry the God King's child. I doubt Brandon knew what he'd call shard holders at that point.

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

Yeah, I think that was just a God King Priesthood thing, the title of the one who would carry the God King's child. I doubt Brandon knew what he'd call shard holders at that point.

Yeah, I also figured as much, but I thought the capitalisation just a teeny bit odd.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Yeah hemalurgy effects spiritual things, not cognitive. I bet with the right hemalurgic spikes and a forgery, you actually could effect an improbably change, yes. If somebody else has some connection that would be improbable for yourself, you might be able to spike them to gain some of their spiritual identity and then use a forgery to complete / smooth over the change you effected. If you spiked traits that were really fundamental to them, you might actually be able to temporarily forge yourself into them. Mind you, while forgery is temporary, spikes are permanent. This means that once you are done using the forgery, you still have a lot of their traits spiked into you indefinitely.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Drake Marshall

[Yata he/him]

Maybe with a Lot of Spikes... but in the end a Single Stoled Connection says really little about the "donor/victim"

[Megadraco he/him]

So... I'm sure this has already been asked a thousand times, but I don't know where to look, and I'm worried about spoilers. So, that said...

I've read the original Mistborn trilogy and Warbreaker. I'm planning to read everything in the Cosmere. Thing is, I live in a Spanish speaking country, and I can't find an English copy of Elantris. So my question is, is it necessary to read Elantris to understand any of the remaining books? Will any of them spoil Elantris to me?

[Eki]

So... I'm sure this has already been asked a thousand times, but I don't know where to look, and I'm worried about spoilers. So, that said...

I've read the original Mistborn trilogy and Warbreaker. I'm planning to read everything in the Cosmere. Thing is, I live in a Spanish speaking country, and I can't find an English copy of Elantris. So my question is, is it necessary to read Elantris to understand any of the remaining books? Will any of them spoil Elantris to me?

The different series are supposed to be separate, so you can read them in any order (or skip some for that matter). There are tiny details you can learn between the different books, but nothing that would really count as spoilers, I think.

That said, there are opinions about the preferred reading order, if you're planning on reading all the books anyway. I think it's mainly reading Words of Radiance after Warbreaker, but that's not really about spoilers. It's more about catching some easter eggs.

Edited June 7, 2016 by Eki

[Megadraco he/him]

Thanks!

[CaptainRyan he/him]

So... I'm sure this has already been asked a thousand times, but I don't know where to look, and I'm worried about spoilers. So, that said...

I've read the original Mistborn trilogy and Warbreaker. I'm planning to read everything in the Cosmere. Thing is, I live in a Spanish speaking country, and I can't find an English copy of Elantris. So my question is, is it necessary to read Elantris to understand any of the remaining books? Will any of them spoil Elantris to me?

 

There are kindle apps for smartphones, tablets and (some) computers - you could probably snag an English ebook that way. Or, if you are truly stuck and cannot get one I will, in 100% complete honesty, mail you a copy because no one should suffer from a lack of access to Sanderson books! Drop me a pm if you cannot get a copy of Elantris. Consider it a uhh, early Christmas present haha

Edited June 7, 2016 by CaptainRyan