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You can consider my next comment as apocryphal but at a convention that Snaderson attended in Spain he was asked that if Honor and Odium merged they would end up with an intention similar to Justice and he had answered yes. The same person who asked the question told me this, but according to her, she couldn't get on the Copper since the audio was very bad.
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It basically depends on at what point in the process of creating a hemalurgic spike it is actually loaded with attributes (Plus the possible remnant of identity that I consider they must have). You are right if it is at the time of taking it out. I am right if it is during his stay in the body.
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But here we are not talking about powers per se, but about Identity. The Kandras consider that the remains contain much of the identity of the people (this includes the masks of those from the South)
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This might be one of the first steps, but this can't be all of it, otherwise TenSoon's spikes would work on ReLuur without problems. I think they have to be keyed to Kandra too. I consider that it is the only "mechanical" step that has to be carried out. Imagine that the spike is left with a void when it is filled with a donor without an identity, then the spike, upon passing through the Mistwraith's cognitive block, would automatically be filled with its newly unlocked identity. We must also take into account that TenSoon consumes OreSeur, this may allow him to use his spikes.
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It's my first time proposing Tags so I don't know if it's done this way. There should be a tag to group WoB's related to the Hion lines in Komashi, here are some examples of WoB's that are misplaced without a tag of that type: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/493/#e15502 https://wob.coppermind.net/events/493/#e15521 https://wob.coppermind.net/events/526/#e16409
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It could also be with a Lerasium/Ettmetal alloy. For me it would be poetic since the only ones who could burn it safely would be the Kandra
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This topic is interesting. I remember reading a theory that said that perhaps the reason the polestones absorb Stormlight during Highstorm is that they may have a mechanism that makes things resonate with the tone of Honor (as if it were a tuning fork). Which may also be the reason why polestones do not absorb Voidlight during an Everstorm, since they would not have such a mechanism. If this becomes the case, it is likely that if someone got a tuning fork tuned to the Preservation tone, they could absorb the mist.
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In fact, I had already thought about the issue of Oathgates, but so far they seem to have the limitation that they have to be a pair to work (one at the place of departure and another at the place of arrival). Which leaves us just as incapable of reaching planets without perpendicularities.
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I think there has already been a lot of speculation about how the structure of the fifth oath of the radiant would be formed and what it means for each order in particular. But a topic that I think has not been discussed much is: What benefits does it bring to the radiant? Here I have a series of proposals that I have collected in the comments that I have been able to read on this issue: That simply increases the amount of investiture they can use at one time and the efficiency with which they use it. That they acquire the ability to use the full extent of the Surge. An example would be that Windrunners could use Spiritual Adhesion like Bondsmiths, in addition to Spiritual Gravitation. Like the above, a Dustbringer could use spiritual Division. That they can manipulate the essence corresponding to their order. This would be reminiscent of an initial idea of Brandon's that was discarded [ref 1] in which he postulated that all orders could Soulcast their associated essence. It seemed to him that then all the orders would be too similar. But if he includes it in the 5th ideal, he gives enough room for them to be narratively (for the reader) sufficiently differentiated. As a variant of the previous proposal, there is also the idea that the ideal 5th radiant can take full advantage of the conceptual characteristics of its platespren. A Windrunner could more directly manipulate the wind. A Skybreaker could directly manipulate gravity (and not just the perception of realmatic orientation), potentially creating black holes (although they may need the help of a Bondsmith to do so). An Elsecaller could manipulate the logic. If this seems very abstract, imagine that you can remotely manage systems that depend on logic, for example you could indirectly manipulate a computer or decrypt messages. Finally, although this is not so much a benefit depending on who you ask. A 5th ideal Radiant could acquire the inability to violate oaths like Sprens. This is because his soul fusion has reached such a degree where he is practically a Spren in the physical realm. This would have the benefit of instantly realizing if you are going to fall into a moral hole (like Kaladin) where you physically could not swear contradictory things since your body (soul) would prevent you from swearing anything that contradicts a previous oath. With this said written, which do you think is the closest to being correct or do you have another one in mind?
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Tell him to go find an Enlightened Spren
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It seems to me that he will establish commercial relations with Xisis (aka Dragon) and that will put them in political neutrality with respect to the war between Scadrial and Roshar.
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Remember that there are three "strains" of Honorspren The first created by Honor until her death. The second created by SF (among them Sylphena) until the betrayal Finally the third (only 10) created by the SF after recovering some of the betrayal trauma. These in turn took responsibility for creating more of them.
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Since I learned about the concept of eras in the Cosmere, I have been intrigued by how Brandon plans to implement his magical systems into technology in the future. Perhaps the most revealing WoBs on the subject are the following: So we have that Scadrial and Roshar will have almost parallel technological developments, with Scadrial heading towards Cyberpunk and Roshar towards "Magepunk". If we think about it carefully, the result is that in the future the Scadrians will use technology more aesthetically similar to Startrek/Starwars while the Rosharians will have something more similar to Warhammer 40k (with a lot of distance). The first with ships with more aerodynamic profiles (more similar to those of our world) and the second with more cubic and robust ships (perhaps as a derivation of the 4th Bridge). But I have always had the persistent thought that the way things are set out, it could be the case that these roles are reversed. Note: It's obvious that Brandon won't go in that direction but I still wanted to put this idea down in writing. My approach is simple, Scadrial apparently in Era 2 has a great crutch, the metal arts, the presence of this form of investiture has delayed and redirected its development (High knowledge in metallurgy but still does not have a radio) I have even its technology most advanced coming from an area with few metalborn is entirely based on the mechanization of said arts. What happens if we extrapolate that constant to the future technological development of the planet? Well, we have a society with technology dependent on 17 raw materials for its operation and its realmatic properties (This is far from the technology of our world where current developments are based on the experimentation of compounds and mechanical properties. that arise from different geometric configurations in their atomic structure) This line of thought arose after reading the preview of "Sixth II" years ago. As for Roshar, although at first glance it might seem that its technological development may go in a totally strange and alien direction than one might think, I feel that the opposite is the case. The fabrials are developing in directions very similar to our technology. Additionally, the surge of transformation with a user with sufficient knowledge of the axes could produce large quantities of theoretical compounds (from two-dimensional materials to high entropy alloys) that in the Scadrian technological aspect were discarded due to being allomantically inert. Well, these are my thoughts on the matter, given the information we have so far obviously that will not be the scenario that will play out but it seemed good to write it down. As a fun note due to this I imagine that the Scadrian ships end up looking like the classic flying saucer, it would fit a lot with the tone that was developed in Era 2.
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One thing that my friends and I have talked about a lot is that it is very interesting that her stone is an amethyst. In fabrial mechanics, amethyst reverses the functioning of even fabrials, so could that be affecting the abilities it grants? Could I give access to the void versions if another gem were used?
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I think I've used this analogy before but it best sums it up: Aviars are Sprens without oaths that grant allomancy. They have an immense number of advantages over other sources of investiture: They are not restricted to a specific inheritance. They do not need to comply with a series of restrictive rules. The amount of powers they can grant seems to be equivalent to the number of bird species existing (in the entire cosmere) It is highly reusable and can be passed on to someone else with very few mishaps. This is hemalurgy, it is the drawbacks of hemalurgy, surgebinding without the drawbacks of surgebinding.
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Theory: The Maskless are masters of Hemalurgy
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This conversation has made me wonder something: What would happen if we had an isolated population of Mistborns reproducing with each other? Let's say that in era 4 they managed to recreate a couple or two of Mistborns and sent them to a newly terraformed planet to live there without external interference. Would the entire population be Mistborn or would they still decay and be Misting? -
Roshar Reimagined 2.0 - High Resolution Map of Roshar
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Theory: The Maskless are masters of Hemalurgy
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Plot Twist in Archive, humans really belong to Roshar
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Plot Twist in Archive, humans really belong to Roshar
Dofurion replied to Dofurion's topic in Stormlight Archive
There I was referring to the fact that the hair of the Rosharians works like that of cats, not going into issues of recessive and dominant, but rather that they come to present the colors of both parents at the same time. -
Well, the story itself tells you that Frost, until Starling's birth, only knew two other albino dragons besides himself, and Starling herself calls him uncle (although this could be a nickname) so it's a strange topic. Especially if we consider that what we knew about fainlife is that everything was white (white trees, Sho Del, etc.) and since dragons are also from that ecosystem, it is rare that they have colors and even rarer that they have superstitions about albinos. Note: I wonder if they also have melanos?
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Ok, let me develop the point. Throughout the 4 archive books published to date (not counting the x.5) we have received several revelations that have changed the story of Roshar. In The Way of Kings we learn that in ancient times the Silver Kingdoms existed and that there were Voidbringers who fought against humanity and that they are almost mythical entities that are used today to represent "evil." In Words of Radiants We Learned That Parshmenios were actually mythological voidbringers, which is difficult to believe (In-World) given its docile nature and lack of initiative to perform any action. In Oathbringer we discover that they are actually the humans who are originally called voidbringers since they could not hear the tones and brought their God (Odium) that metaphorically also was known as such. And finally in Rhythm of War we understood a little more about the context of what happened in the desolations and why we find ourselves in the current situation. So since in each book we are receiving recontextualization of the origins of humanity in Roshar, it occurred to me to think about what other plot twist there could be on this topic in the following books, and what occurred to me is that current humans do belong to Roshar, or at least the current humans. Now I know that the previous point may seem redundant, the human inhabitants of Roshar were clearly born on that planet and have been there for millennia but I am putting it from the point of view of a Singer or a Fused, the humans are invaders of our lands that took the entire continent, even though they were given lands for themselves (aka Shin Kak Nish). And therefore we have the right to recover them. That is the thinking of the Fused (Or at least the part that is still sane.) Now, this is the panorama we currently know as readers, but something still does not fit. For example, we have the dance organized between singers and humans in which Hoid participated, the existence of the Unkalaki and the Herdazians as human/singer hybrids among several other things that indicate that humans had more mobility in the continent and that not the Singers were not so restrictive with their territory as not to perminate humans in it. So what do I propose? Simple, Sanderson has been diverting attention with the WoBs of the Unkalakis and in reality all the humans of Roshar are descendants of the Singers (Except the Shin and the Irilai), that would further explain the hair issue in Roshar among other things. Fine points: My argument is that humans have indeed inherited characteristics from the Singers, only that these characteristics are qualified according to the shape in which the Singer was when granting the child. In the case of the Unkalaki, their ancestors would be Singers in work form (Gravitationspren), which could also explain their relationship with Cultivation (Remembering that their pure tone is the one that sounds when acquiring this form). From the above we could speculate that the Herdazians are descendants of Singers who were in the form that the Reachers' cousin Spren will grant, given that if we assume that all (or most) of the Spren that make up the Shradplate grant forms we could also speculate that these shapes have some other characteristic related to the elements that surround the Radiants, and given that there is a body focus such as the nails... Herdazians. And while the above is already speculation, it may then be that the reason why the Rosharians have the issue with hair is that they are mostly descendants of the Singers with the form given by the Spren cousins of the Mistspren (Here for me , it would be super convenient if it were for those who are in the Mateform since they should be the ones who would be most conducive to reproducing with humans, but the essences do not fit). In summary, I consider that this may be one of the revelations of the fifth book since we will go to Shinovar, that humans today do belong both metaphorically and literally to Roshar.
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There is also the possibility that Patji has never finished forming, that is, that no one has yet ascended to be the avatar as such
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Your comment has made me think, external metal savants should be the least affected by the negative parts of said condition. If we look at the negative effects that Spook suffered, they were precisely due to the drastic changes that his body suffered due to the continuous burning. Although @Argenti compares it to drug abstinence, I see it more as a mutation that is not receiving enough "nutrients" to be able to maintain its normality and that is why being savant of those 2 metals in particular becomes so problematic. Putting it in a table it should be like this: Those who are green are all external, the savants who beyond a small plus of power should not have more effects (clear I am in favor of giving light discomfort according to the situation/epoch). Those who are in yellow are what would seem to have more present negative effects, although circumstantial. I don't think it is necessary to explain why those who are in red, the really dangerous.
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Ok, the survey used to consistently give me Lightweaver but I did it again yesterday and what a surprise:
