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I agree. It seems that Leras and Ati are human. I also want to say that I think that Sho Del have white hair. (Which, as a side note, I will mention, raises some questions for me about Hoid's hair color and eating habits (or lack thereof). I think we have only seen him drink on screen, with the exception of the Traveller short story where he eats a pomegranate.) I would like to add that Vin seems to be another example of the body that drops being the correct race and appearance. Looking at linguistics, Skai and Aona sound more like Leras and Ati and Rayse, when compared to Koravellium Avast... Tanavast... Or Tan Avast? Is the one odd man out for the style of name... I am on the fence about Tanavast, but for the others (Skai, Aona), I think that human seems more likely.

This makes me think of "the most important shot in golf is the next one" every time I read it.

Goal: Gain a vague timeline of the Iriali people's travels. (Full Cosmere Spoilers) I would like to focus in on the Iriali and specifically speculate about their lands (including Lumar) 1 We know that Roshar is the 4th land. 2 The Iriali follow the "Long Trail" 3 People from Rira (Evi) have sayings that reflect the planets of Nalthis and Taldain 4 A queen in Iriali responds to Dalinar with comments about the tides 5 Rirans are different from the Iriali. 6 Autonomy's isolation principal has locked Kriss out of her homeland during the time she is writing her essays. 7 Nalthis and Roshar have a lot of interaction and linguistic similarities. New Secret Project Info 1 The Iri have been on Lumar. 2 A cup written in "their language", old Iriali, is written from up to down, not left to right. And made entirely of tin. (not Rosharan writing) 3 Disappeared 300 years prior to Secret Project 1 story. 4 Hoid does not appear to have Design at this time 300 years past their disappearance. 5 Iriali had at least one "king" on Lumar. (Probably three monarchs, though.) Assumptions 1 Evi's idioms can be traced to Taldain "Sun at night" quote and Nalthis from some color related quotes. And these quotes come from her partial Iriali heritage (golden hair, but not true golden hair) 2 Autonomy has isolated Taldain from the Cosmere for a significant amount of time. 3 There is only one group of Iriali roming the Cosmere. Speculation and Proto-Theorizing 1. With near certainty, we can say that the Iriali must have been to Lumar prior to Roshar, through abundant circumstantial evidence. a. Hoid makes no mention of Design. b. Rosharan and Scadrial references not present. c. Iriali have tide readers. "The Iriali religion may involve fortune-telling with ocean waves, as a member of the Iriali court is the court tidereader. A spanreed meeting between the Iriali queen and Dalinar was moved up because of something seen in the waves." -from a stormlight archive fandom wiki. Tide implies some sea-faring history and considering the importance of paying attention to the fluids on Lumar, it would be wise to have a tide reader. 2. Now, it gets interesting. We conclude that if Roshar is the 4th land, Lands 1-3 must be Nalthis, Taldain and Lumar My suggestion for order is 0th Before the beginning of the "Long Trail". (Perhaps destroyed in the shattering.) 1st Lumar --- Ancient Iriali writing that goes up to down must predate their visit to Taldain because on the Dayside of Taldain they write from left to write based on the current comics (papers on Heelis' desk). 2nd Taldain --- At some point travel to and from Taldain is blocked, but in early times of Kriss and Kenton, it is not blocked, so earlier is more likely for Taldain (additionally, I can only remember the one Evi expression). 3rd Nalthis --- There is a lot of interconnectedness between Roshar and Nalthis. Therefore, I think it seems logical that the last leg of the Long Trail, so far is from Nalthis to Roshar. 4th Roshar --- Confirmed. 7th Final land (Yolen?) 3. The question remains whether the golden Aether sea provided the Iriali with their golden hair, or, and I think this more likely, there is a 0th land. This stands to reason, based on how Charlie seemed to think the golden hair was something noteworthy, and we haven't seen anyone around with green hair or heard any mention of new inhabitants having golden hair. Hopefully this can be answered when we have the full book for Secret Project 1: Please add your own observations and theories. I am sure I missed some data and I have been unable to confirm the fact that I think that the Iriali on Roshar write from left to right.

I am trying to wrap my head around the implications of this prediction... This would mean that the Iriali would have good reason to join Odium's team, since they both want to travel the cosmere and use Roshar as a home base. I, personally, thought the Iriali were using some sort of fortune magic. It fits with the superstitions and tide reading, if it actually gives them some sort of divine guidance. I figured that they would be travelling without any true end game plan, but primarily due to some sort of prophecy. But, I am realizing that this is not exclusive to the prediction above. If the prophecy tells the Iriali that they must get all of the experiences and then return to Yolen and the One will reform, all of the experiences should include gathering all available magics and gaining Connection to all of the new shards. Maybe the Iriali don't even know fully what they are doing or why like Hoid because of Fortune being used, but they are fulfilling some sort of divine mandate. A prophecy, if you will, and by doing as their religion dictates, they are helping to reform the One!

Huh... That is a good point. It could be like the rice that was not really rice. I admit, though, that I wondered if Yumi's planet had been colonized by people from Sel, when I heard Mai Pon. Or, if they were exploited by the IRE like first nations were exploited by fur traders from Europe. Above is the most intelligent idea... I also thought of Shai and Forgers and then was like... Hmm... "Could Shai forge a planet" and "Shai is quite the virtuoso". I think the Hoid simplification is the best explanation considering the fact that continuity for 1 and 4 were the hardest. So less cosmere connections for 3 is more likely... Or... Further in the future where there cannot be time clashes could also be more likely.

"Takes a real special type to be a proper criminal...You ain't that type. You see, in this conversation, I tricked you into confirming the name of the guy who recruited you and giving the location of your base." Also, almost any non-verbal interaction: When he is a constable thinking about if its the uncomfortable hats that make them so grumpy, when he is cheating at the game with Wax and the real game is Wax figuring out if he is cheating.... When he drops a water tower to stop Wax's wedding and elaborates to Marasi that Wax will just pay for everything and ask no questions. Oh, AND... The part where he explains that Wax has marked bills in his wallet at all times: "Wax just carries some marked bills... Just in case." (The non-verbal is so much better)

“Imaginary things [are] often the only items of real substance in people’s lives” -Brandon Sanderson This is a Lightsong quote.

Yes, Brandon has confirmed that he is trying to make a pattern. (T)WoK, WoR, O, RoW, KoW(T) It was something he wanted to do and then changed his mind a few times over, I think. He wasn't sure if it was feasible. On his podcast with Dan Wells, Dan tried a few names and Brandon mentioned that he might be including the "The" from The Way of Kings... Short Answer: Yes, there is a pattern. Pattern would say that I am lying, though, because it is just initials.

Honestly, I cannot help but think of Nightblood like a computer... You program "Destroy Evil" and Nightblood is like define variable "Evil" and it allows every wielder to define the variable. With a simpler intent, I wonder if some Breath might just be wasted. On a third unrelated note... I wonder what would happen if someone pointed out to Nightblood that the only way to guarantee that all "Evil" is destroyed would be to destroy everything. If you consider the fact that an object doesn't necessarily have any moral compass, it seems like a really elegant solution, with no reasons for Nightblood not to try it... (In a morbid computer logic way)

Because it provides me peace of mind... I have been lying to myself and saying that there are three empires and they are Fjorden, Rose Empire and the IRE (their base of operations). I wouldn't mind if some people prove me wrong with this one... And, inspired, I have decided to predict a undead style empire that borders the swamps that the blood letters are from in Emporers Soul.

I agree with the Prudence/ Wisdom argument on a basis of my finding opposite shards plan and the fact that Prudence makes an ideal AntiValor. Also, because nobody asked... Here is my obliterated mind-map (supposing the creation of this new Shard, Virtuosity, becomes canon). Ultimately, my logic is based on my belief that Shards need an opposite, which I know is not something everyone agrees with, but I think that we need an anti-valor-y shard still and the others pair better together than with Valor.

I am going to be a little nit picky. 1- Nale wouldn't associate with Liss. Liss is willing to break the law in order to kill in Kolinar. This is punishable by death. (I do really love the idea that Gavilar is also hiring Liss, though.) 2- I like it. There has to be ulterior motive, though. What does the relationship between Ameram and Gavilar give Gavilar? Could he want to bring Jasnah into the fold, but he needs people to stop seeing her as a problem, heretic and old unmarried woman before he can do so? Maybe, but it is a little boring. 3- I am surprised. I didn't know about this. I love the theorizing, but don't think it will fit into the prologue 4- This is possible, but I think that Axindweth is more likely to be a question left unanswered. 5 and 6- Yeah, I can see that. 7-Maybe... Maybe a little more passive-aggressive. He simply tells Taravangian that he will gladly make him a Highprince of Alethkar, but Taravangian doesn't want to be conquered... Honestly, though... I feel like it will probably be Gavilar seeking Taravangian's scholarly advice. I cannot imagine why he would care about Taravangian when he thinks he is actually going to enter the realm of "gods and legends". 8- If he lives, I think it needs to happen in the prologue. If he dies, it needs to reveal what is wrong with the Rosharan Shadesmar/ Afterlife. Overall, I really like the ideas and theories and I think that a lot of them could be correct (first part of 1 and 2 and definitely 5 and 6). I, however, will take the conservative view that Brandon is going to go and make this prologue crazy fast paced and give tons of crazy details that set our heads spinning. Unfortunately, he gave us so many crazy details that when we reach the Sanderlanche ending we realize that we misinterpreted some of what happens and BAM! There were tons of new secrets exposed during the prologue while we got most of the answers we wanted. We missed foreshadowing for ____! And ______! That is just my opinion. I think he is going to want to make this a crazy ending to the arc and I think there are enough secrets in Roshar that he can expose several in the prologue.

That is what I am trying to get at... If there is converging intent, you get more stable powers like the Stormfather, but if a shard creates a divergence in another shard's intent, it could cause splintering. I think it could be a good model to try and exploit. At the end of the Hero of Ages, the intent of Preservation is clear "don't let the world be completely destroyed!" Ruin's intent would converge as well to let the world fall apart into nothing/ true disorder (true entropy). Thus pools of power that didn't diverge formed before Sazed. You could argue that this was a pretty rapid time frame, but I still think that the readily available power indicates the opposite of what you would expect prior to divergence before splintering. Honor would have many reasons for divergence (Heralds betraying oaths and imprisonment of Ba Ado Mishram are both pretty dishonorable).

I am going to cut my answer extra close for my predictions... (Since it is the day of the SP3 livestream) We know that Brandon wrote these because he worried it was something he would never get around to... We know he wrote 3 for his wife and one for himself (#2 was for him). So, we guess that he worried he would never get around to Aethers and perhaps Emily likes Aethers... We also know that 1 and 4 were bad for adjusting canon for Karen 4 has someone we have seen before. The main character appears to be male and holding a rock. It shouldn't be Vasher... It could be Baon, Galladon, Demoux, Kriss or Nazh... I want it to be Riino, but I don't think so. 3- Another Aether World. Perhaps the Aether homeworld and it is heavily focused on where the Aether's come from. Minimal interaction with Lumar because Lumar is a backworld, but readers will still find it very cool. 4- I'm going with Kriss while she studies the Aethers on another planet.

I think the distinction is that Kelsier did not need to have this conflict of long term preservation versus short term because he could preserve the people of Scadrial to preserve the planet of Scadrial. I think that the Koloss alone, would not be what is required to fully separate the intent. Kelsier's artificial Connection from the IRE would withstand a little more, but I still think that it would be about finding things that Connect like Koloss trying to preserve themselves and their humanity... And an atmosphere that wants to stay cloudy and inhospitable. I think it would be the push to oppose oneself... But, there needs to be a threshold for how much divergence of intent splinters some shard and my cop out answer to my not super well thought out idea is that: "maybe its below the threshold and Kelsier somehow had enough connection and made the right actions to keep it below this arbitrary threshold that I just made up"

I like the theory and wanted to add one thing that occurred to me. Shashara would not need to visit Scadrial. One of the five scholars just needed to interact with a worldhopper who had. It makes me think of the feruchemist worldhopper who is in league with Ulim in the Rhythm of War. This is assuming that the knowledge of Hemalurgy can spread like a virus, which makes sense to me.

Adolin 1- Uniform 2- Uniform looks too stylish and it looks like he is posing 3- His hair is two different colors (Adolin's hair is blond and black) 4- He is young and does not look awkward or like a soldier... (No shash glyph either)

I agree. Huh... That is a good thing to note. Kriss puts the power getting splintered as completely separate as the death. I think that Kell was what stopped Preservation from being splintered. Going back to my Chess metaphor, if Ruin were trying to make a play to splinter Preservation, he would need to actually change the world significantly. And, the way that "Everything he tries is blocked by Ruin." in Secret History shows that the Shards prevent each other from taking serious action. I believe that Kelsier takes similar action to stop Ruin from destroying a city and is only partially successful. The impression I got was that Kelsier was losing, but he was still enough of a thorn in Ruin's side to stop him from doing whatever he wanted. So, if Ruin tries to set up a situation like this he needs to make some move and if Kelsier just counters, knowing that Ruin is bad, this is more useful than having nobody at all.

Adonalsium (Not a Shard (He predates shards), not Hoid and not Frost)

I agree fully with this comment. I, originally, wondered if Hoid would be compelled to save Bob. But, if it is an accident, and a genuine accident, I think Hoid could do let Bob fall if Bob were evil (like Sadeas) or if Bob's death was for the greater good (like Alendi's death). On the other hand, if Hoid intentionally pushed Bob off the cliff, I also think that that would be allowed. But, Hoid would then need to have the full intention of saving Bob's life using Allomancy, or by knowing the drop was short and with water at the bottom. The grey area is... Could Hoid change his mind? And actually kill Bob using a mind game... This seems similar to what I imagine Vasher does with his non-Returned form, so I wonder... Could Hoid shoot someone in the face knowing they have a goldmind (like Wayne)? I think yes. But, could Hoid convince himself that someone has a goldmind, shoot them and then watch them die?

I like this idea. I, personally, have this idea that splintering means a divergence in the power. For example, if Honor was put in the same position as Kaladin was in Words of Radiance, where he had two conflicting oaths. I think that the act of splintering is causing the power to polarize and pull in separate directions (i.e. part of the power needs to protect human lives because of the deal it made, but part of it knows that he committed to not destroying innocent lives and slaveform singers are, in essence, innocent people who have been affected). I think that this is like a check-mate situation, so if Leras is dead and cannot move his pieces, it would be easy enough for Ruin to create a destructive army of Koloss that preserve themselves well and then part of preservation needs to preserve the Koloss, but part needs to preserve the rest of the world. I think that Brandon would probably claim that this is a grey area, or that it is a spectrum. I've never been good with classifications, but I am also curious about how Honor's condition varies from Dominion and Devotion. The fact that Odium was responsible for both makes me wonder if there are some similarities, even if the cognitive realm is not as packed with investiture for Honor (instead it seems like an intentional sprinkling of spren investiture).

Amber and Gold look awfully similar. Images are courtesy of some of the first full pictures of color that pop up on google images. Here is an informal citation of the websites that I took the images from. 1. What is Amber? Posted on 19 January 2020 By Bart Verboven https://www.debarnsteenspecialist.nl/en/blogs/blog/what-is-amber/ 2. Adobe Complimentary Watermarked Gold Photo ND By alona_s https://stock.adobe.com/ca/images/gold-gradient-smooth-texture-empty-golden-metal-background-light-metallic-plate-template-abstract-pattern-bright-foil-design-elegant-decoration-decorative-shiny-wallpaper-vector-illustration/231225782

Kaladin and Szeth arrive in Shinovar. Somehow, Ishar found Ba Ado Mishram and forced her into a bond. He uses her to enslave all of the Shin and give them forms of power. He has Kaladin and Szeth fight to the death to decide who will get Dalinar the information he needs to know. Just when Kaladin is about to win Szeth divides himself in two and Kaladin is so shocked that this is what the shard of division does, that Left Szeth kills him. Right Szeth rushes over to Ishar and learns the secret of how to win the contest of champions and Left and Right Szeth race to inform Dalinar that the secret to kill Odium is to guess his name correctly (or else Odium will get his first born son). Dalinar confidently guess "Rayse", but is incorrect. Dalinar guesses many names, but on the third day of the contest of champions he overhears Taravodium out in the woods singing "tonight tonight, my plans I make, tomorrow tomorrow, the baby I take. Dalinar will never win the game, for Taravangian is my name". Dalinar guesses the correct name and the contest ends. Unfortunately, Raboniel faked her death and used her identical twin as a sacrifice for Navani and she created a new plague that Adolin is sick with. Dalinar wins, but all non-Radiants die, except for Adolin who is saved by Zahel who gives away his divine breath (without sharing any of his scholarly genius with anyone other than Kaladin). Meanwhile, Taravodium visits Ishar. Ishar pulls out his own Nightblood-like blade and kills Odium and binds his power to the blade rather than himself. This gives him all of the power with none of the consequences. Ishar then goes to Dalinar after using connection to make himself look just as Kaladin does and tells Dalinar that they have won. Ishar then steals Dalinar and Navani's bonds as well and binds those bonds to weird connection-y objects and then kills them and then takes power disguised as Kaladin Stormblessed and leads Roshar to war against the entire galaxy.

The first chapters were excellent. I loved all of the cosmere references. AoN spoiler

I am responding to the dot jots in order. 1 I think he says that they are in geosynchronous orbits, which means it is probably gravity. But, the fact that he wants it to be primarily non-magical is probably why people who work out the science are pulling out their hair (since it doesn't work particularly well, when you take physics into account). I'd imagine people are still figuring this one out... It seems RAFO/ I haven't done the math territory. 2 I would like to add a sub-question of whether there is water at the bottom of these dust/ pollen pits. At one point, Hoid, our narrator, puts it in a way that makes it sounds like the oceans were covered in dust, but another time he makes it sound like they are solely made of pollen. 3 I think this is almost a certainty. It is really awesome that we have found another Iriali land. I want to know what number land this is, 1, 2, 3 or 4. I think we will be able to find some idioms now that correspond to this planet. We might be able to figure out which land it is with the 4th question. (The last 3 are really good questions that I want to know the answer to and don't sound to RAFO-able (4-6)) 4 Yes, I really want to know when this takes place. A questions I want to add is 7 Does it rain? Or does all the water come from beneath the planet? 8 Are there areas with no spores? (Shinovar-esk normal-ish places). 9 Do these people have the ability to drink saltwater and survive? (potential RAFO territory) 10 Maybe this is obvious... But a planet name would be awesome! Poke as many holes as you can and maybe refine them into less RAFO-able questions if you can please.