drunkenbotanist

I don't remember if the original thread had this brought up, but something that seems important too is that Brandon wrote Warbreaker as a prologue of sorts for storm light archive, it introduces vasher and night blood and

You're right! Although Ishar is completely crazy and we do seem to be putting a lot of pages into theorizing that he's involved as well. And Ashyn magic is powered by diseases, but it hasn't always been Just pointing out that we have no information that disease magic caused the Ashyn catastrophe. As far as I can tell the closest we have to them coexisting is a WoB saying that the catastrophe is why there are floating cities and floating cities are made possible because of disease magic. It definitely makes sense if somehow odium tricked Ishar into messing with a dawnshard while he had some powerful disease magic then it would be the same danger as having a spren with a dawnshard, we just haven't been given that info yet. Nor do we know that Ishar has no abilities without his blade, we just know he doesn't have Ashyn disease magic

Wasn't ishar some kind of bondsmith on ashyn before getting an honor blade? He started the problems on ashyn by binding surges right?

This has me leaning to some combo of ishar providing the power for jezrien to impersonate the stormfather. He's in kholinar at the time as the beggar, frequently outside the palace even. Jezrien is mistaken as the stormfather after all in myth sometimes right

Also makes for a new potential speculative dawnshard category: value? Talent? Maybe these three are part of create? I was very struct by this comparison and then I realized that he explains how all three are bested by time, and time is meaningless in the spiritual realm and then I got very confused with what Brandon could be trying to do if this was a deliberate attempt to tease shards Maybe this part is also relevant who knows “So what is the most valuable talent a man can have?” He sounded genuinely curious. “I haven’t the faintest idea,” Wit said. “Fortunately, that wasn’t the question. I didn’t ask what was most valuable, I asked what men value most. The difference between those questions is at once both tiny and as vast as the world itself.”

I assume it's not because he is acting in accordance with his oaths but very specifically the oaths of a windrunner are probably very compatible theoretically with the dawnshard. Holding it even after giving it up prevents Hoid from harming people Windrunner oaths are about protecting people He might've hoped his oaths would prevent the dawnshard effects from regarding his actions as a threat or something.

When Sigzil was running while being shot at: I didn't add the S, and I only read the chapters so I don't know how Brandon said this, but the capitalized Somehow sounds a lot like some defined use of fortune

So I decided to take what pieces of info we have on Hoid and try to fit together a narrative of events using just the info have to see if it could make sense Starting farthest out at SP4 we know that Hoid wanted to prevent a huge calamity and didn't have many options and had to take the one that ruined Sigzil's life to save potentially the whole cosmere. It's pretty clear from context that this calamity involves at least one dawnshard. Because we know someone is hunting Sigzil for it, I think it's safe to assume that the calamity is that someone is trying to use the dawnshard (as opposed to something random like every 10,000 years the dawnshards have to be discharged or they blow up). So from what we know about Hoid from the end of RoW is that Todium was able to mess with his memories. We know from WoB that he'll figure this out early into the next book. We also know that Sigzil's fate will be clear early on in the 5th book. Not that they necessarily have to connect up together, but if these plots do then it could make sense that Hoid realizes his memories have been tampered with and now he doesn't know full extent of what info (we know from WoB that Todium didn't get info, just deleted memories) that Todium could have gotten. He's been hiding some important info about the status/location of one or more dawnshards, and now he's worried that they will be grabbed up by an agent of Todium. This could be the calamity he wants to prevent, and we know he had to work with what he has, so he has Sigzil go fetch it or otherwise secure it in a way that Hoid doesn't know about so the information can't be taken from him. The knowledge is safer with Sigzil because he doesn't need breaths to store memories because he's not thousands of years old, but he's still on the run from more physical threats anyways. I doubt Brandon has given us all the info we need to put together a whole early plot line ahead of time, but I just wanted to see if it made sense this way if I assumed he had

I'm skeptical it's feruchemy But in support of the idea that Sigzil might not have noticed it even if it was, he spends no time speculating about what the cinder/ember people can do, what the process does to them, the source (shard) of the investiture, etc He really only seems focused on finding concentrations of investiture without caring much about the details about it. He notes for example that the sunlight might be invested, and that maybe the ember/cinder core thing could charge his Skips. Feruchemy would be almost useless to him for this purpose, as there isn't a lot of investiture involved compared to surgebinding, so it makes sense that he would blow right past it (except of course in the case of the bands of morning and specific forum theorizing about compounding, etc)

This could also be decades and decades after storm light. Kal could be dead from old age easily How else could Sigzil now have seen more of the cosmere than Hoid?

Or are the spirits that Yumi binds becoming nightmares and they take several years to gain enough form to emerge but when they do if they become defeated the binding ends :/ The duality makes me want to look for ways that they are linked

As a plant biologist I'm so grateful for the accurate plant facts

Looks like 12 is right

Feral wizards ?????? ???? Scenic england

I believe we know that the Irali hair color is because of a group of humans not from Ashynn but we don't know where from coming to Roshar later than the Ashynnites

Could it be that only 4th/5th ideal normal truth watchers have access to futuresight, but for renarin this is inverted? Just thinking about Shallan struggling with soulcasting, jasnah with elsecalling, szeth is told by Nale that he won't be taught division until 3rd ideal, there are definitely patterns to when certain knights progress in their use of surges

I definitely agree with this, it makes devices possible and portable instead of needing a plateau worth of chulls

I imagine with enough focus you could split or perceive individual beads from a single object This happens with a certain characters steelpushes in Wax and Wayne There been several comments around soulcasting that suggest it's possible, that soulcasters prefer rocks cut up first, because it makes it easier (not impossible) Jasnah soulcasting air describes something similar

Hi there, plant biologist that makes CRISPR tools I was joking though about the spirit realm viruses But that being said hemalurgy and/or (depending on if they're the same thing) the Excisor from the Southern Scadrians does the actual probably CRISPR analog Designing/programming a new use of investiture sounds like Sel magic which is supposed to also be one of the important Era 4 civilizations?

Just want to say that spiritual CRISPR implies the existence of spiritual bacteria and spiritual bacteriophages fighting each other endlessly

Do we know if spren loosing their mind from being in the physical realm for too long happened before the Recreance/BAMs capture? Seons don't lose their minds, cognitive shadows in bodies don't lost their minds (on small timelines, and what happens to them overtime with a slow warping of their personality seems very different) Did the Spren lose connection to Roshar such that they need extra connection to someone born on Roshar to keep sane?

Just taking a second to appreciate "she vibes hard enough to Roshar's Top Ten"

If I remember he saw a great deal of investiture attached to wit himself, and then looked at it and saw it contained memories and took a tiny amount I don't think it means the coin was definitely a metalmind, but it would make sense to me that if it was he didn't really pay attention to it compared to the breaths, esp with all the dialogue about slight of hand.

A metalmind should glow because it's investiture, but that doesn't mean Odium would thing it odd that hoid has something with a little bit of investiture on him, he probably has several things

Couldn't the humans have unmade the dawncity spren as part of their conquest of Roshar that led to the singers going over to Odium?