Aspiring Writer

Pretty sure Vin was inhaling the power of a god when she ripped those bands of, and not what an actual Mistborn could do. Pretty sure TLR needed to do some weird compounding to let him do it.

I have long sense come to terms that Radients are more powerful than Mistborn. Maybe if I knew what powers a Mistborn could get with the other god metals and had access to those, I'd change my mind, but as WoR, they are way too weak when compared to Radients weaponry, armor, powers, and most importantly, healing. Really wish I could see a Mistborn like Hoid try and burn some Raysium. @BenduLuke please realize that the only way you think they can win is if they can somehow trap the Radiant in a net probably worth more than a house and a lot of other means which are unlikely and manufactured to give the Mistborn a chance. I like Mistborn too, I would love if they were better, but the Radients beat them with raw power and healing. Now, if it was the TLR, then that would be a different story. He'd wreck them. And remember, any enemy restrained can be killed no matter how powerful. Even TLR would eventually die if he was successfully restrained and repeatedly stabbed.

Well, the wording of 'broken gods' makes me wonder if he is going to try and take up all the Shards and try and become Adonsilium. Which concerns me, as the only person I trust holding a shard right now is Sazed.

Lots of ideas come randomly in my head, but this is only one of three ways I get ideas (From what I can think of right now) Another one is taking one of your ideas and then building on it. Something simple like a relationship, when you start really thinking on how you want to execute it, can give you plenty of new ideas, both for what you are working on and for other works. It like having ideas randomly pop in your head, except you're trying to make it happen for something specific. And last one is my being pissed at an idea I saw that was executed horribly but I liked, so I decided, "I'm going to do that idea, and do it properly." An example is the Infinity Stones. In infinity war, despite the fact I loved the movie, it irked me that the stones seemed so limited despite having supposed control over all the forces of creation like space and time. they could do so much more with the stones than they show. So I made a magic system based on the stones for a series I'm working on. While doing it, you can see why maybe the writers didn't want to make the stones that powerful as you encounter obstacles in writing, but seeing as I have full control over my narrative, I had the freedom to make it work. (This also goes to any idea that you liked. Being inspired by other stories is a common inspiration. Even crap stories can do this, as you will see a story you don't like but thought had potential and proceed to try and make it yourself. Other things are just elements in all wroting that you have to think 'how am i going to handle this in my story' and develop something the cneters on it, and you may even just want to take a trope into a new and better direction that you like better, like fantasy and trying to make it more scientific because that's something you like to see.)

There are details that you can tell is from Dawnshard, but the overall story is still a mystery. It honstesly just makes you want to read the book so you understand the reference like Captain America in the Avengers. Pretty sure i could read Dawnshard and have no idea how it will go. Honestly, if you're familiar at all with how Dawnshard is going to go, the details you see aren't all that 'oh my god!', and more like 'curious'.

Thank you! These villains have done a lot to mess with our protagonist, and Moash is clearly most effective against Kal because of how he understands him, we haven't seen him in any other situation to say how masterful he would be in just regular combat. And I know with this book a lot of us are going to be like "Rayse was pretty lame" but I'd like to remind you he got everyone to this point, he was able to start the final desolation and nearly outmaneuvered all of them if Daliner didn't resist. That one hitch in his plan was what set him off the tracks and possibly started his unraveling, where it's made clear the power and Rayse were starting to be at odds. All villains are intimidating when they're in control, and they all tend to lose it once a hitch gets in the way of that plan they've been carefully crafting for so long. Reason he could not kill Navani- Raboniel stopped him for as long as she could, Rhythm of anti hurt him, and then she became a Radiant and safe from harm even against the honorable and was in a tower that wanted him dead. Reason he could not kill Raboniel- Remember, even weakened, she is still an incredibly tall and strong Fused, she surprised him and probably had him in a tight grapple, where his weapon wasn't as useful/convenient and she would make sure he couldn't get a good swing, she might have voidlight still in her (She was just about to work on the tower) and therefore resist his lashings. I was just about to say that, he knows better than to try and kill a main character like kal fo twp reasons. Plot armor will let the storming man come back to life like Wax did in BoM, and two, if he does kill Kal, he knows the audience will want him dead more than ever and there is no chance at changing sides. And you don't go against the audience. He can pray to the audience, but they will not answer.

I think that's because of the connection he made with Daliner, not that he would normally have that ability. Am I mistaken in this line of thought?

So, I ahve finshed the entire book, but don't worry, I'm not going to spoil anything, but did anyone else read those first 100 or so pages and raise an eyerbow for the extremely long fight scene? I legit couldn't help thinking, 'this is still going'? I enjoyed it either way, but I can't shake the feeling that the beginning was too drawn out.

Odium color is often associated with red, but also with gold/yellow. His metal is a gold/yellow, the environment in his visions are always gold, the light he emanates is gold, so the gold eyes is him becoming like Moash, like Vyre.

In my experience, it's an off and on feeling. there's stuff I want to do that I will probably never finish, so I'd like to be alive/aware for that, as well as just to see events unfold, to see where things are going, but sometimes, especially when those things are called into question or doubt, the void feels like a nice place to be, because even heaven seems like a miserable place to be. Even all the luxuries in the world don't seem enjoyable then.

This is me.

yeah... i can see that... like now. I will say, despite me hoping for an afterlife, i also hope there is a way to end it if I decided I don't want to deal with it. Living that long seems... tiring, and the void of non-existance seems appealing when the world seems to be nothing but a place made to nip at you bit by bit until you snap because everyone in the world is an idiot, especially you because you thought there were non-idiots in the world and were clearly wrong, and just hope it all ends to preserve some sense of order in the universe in humanity's destruction. Quite familiar with that feeling. unfortunatly.

Some may say that's the appeal. He certainly gives me Blusheaver vibes, and Blushweaver has a special place in my heart despite her threatening Siri.

Funnily enough, this is the exact argument someone else uses for why they don't like Era 2. @Ookla the Scandalous

Hmm. I can see why she feels inserted into this world. I, myself, didn't really care about her meeting modern sensibilities, it's not why I think she's well written, so I can definitely see your point. Will say that her already having uncommon views like atheism can help explain why she is so against the tide. If you're receiving all this heat for this reason, why not keep going? She's got no respect to lose at that point, so I can see her developing very differing views from what society normally considers proper in her setting. So I see it going both ways.

1. Thank you 2) Oh yeah, that exists. Sorry, I've been grinding through RoW and been slightly busier than expected. I will indeed come back, though I am becoming far less active on the Shard than I used to and will be harder to get for a large length of time. You can try tagging starting maybe tomorrow (I need homework and lunch right now) and I will try replying eventually, if not quickly.

I agree that Jasnah is by no means a Mary Sue, and I don't think you know what the definition means (Not you Greywatch, though I do question why you hate the term. I'd very much like to have a conversation with you about that). First, let's list down her strengths and see if they are justified. 1. Jasnah is a scholar with a particular fascination with History, meaning she is very well studied and has even been proclaimed as one of the best, which would fit as she would have access to the best education she would want and very much explains her high intelligence. 2. Her competence as a politician and military leader are explained with the fact that she is a princess, who we see takes plenty of measures to ensure her families safety, and in this book, it's explained that she is very well red o tactics, and considering how discerning and calculating she can be, it isn't much a surprise she has the capability of thinking on more tactical terms, and we clearly see that she is by no means the best, Daliner and the Mink being clearly superior with their years upon years of experience, and then there's the fact she is the princess of the Alethi, who are a very warmongering people who take even children to battle. 3. Her skills as a Radiant, which... she has had her spren the longest of all of them except for maybe Shallan. It is not a surprise she reached her fourth ideal by now, considering Kal just reached his. She has had more time to practice those abilities than any of the current Radients, so it makes sense she is ahead of them. This is probably the easiest to explain. So, she has no strengths or skills that are not unreasonable considering her background, so good qualities fed to her is not an argument for the Mary Sue title. Now, let's see her flaws. 1. She is not a fighter. Yes, she uses her Soulcasting in battle with massive amounts of skill, as she has had the practice to do so. But despite this, we have seen her lose. On the ship, she nearly died and needed to go to Shadsmar to survive. In this book, she is bested by a Fused. Yes, she overcomes this with her Soulcasting, but it's evident that without that, she is not a very competent fighter, which is remarked in her duel with Ru-i forget his name. She is no adolin and can't rely on her sword prowess and stands out with her ability to soul cast in fights. 2. She had trouble expressing emotion. She is often cold to people, and many see her as ruthless and bloodthirsty. We have seen her softer side, but even there she has trouble expressing herself, clearly shown by the awkward hug in this book, and the fact she and Hoid have some tension with the fact she doesn't care to get physical. While she doesn't actually have the emotional range of a brick, that is how she shows herself to people around her and has trouble letting her guard down with even her family. 3. She has some emotional trauma/baggage she needs to deal with. There have been hints that something happened to her when she was younger, something really traumatic that might have made her like this, and we see signs of that like in the duel. The characters don't like what she didn't, the narrative doesn't like what she did, and it's an example of the cold ruthless nature mentioned before, where she could have done what she wanted in a better way but deiced to go this route for reasons we still don't fully comprehend. 4. She fails a lot. She didn't find out what the parshendi were until it was too late, she wasn't the one to find Urithiu because she almost died, there are smaller moments of her admitting to her flaws, like when she apologized to Shallan for earlier disregarding her art abilities, seeing the error of her assumptions. And then there's the fact that Jasnah doesn't have much time in these books. In the first book, she was a mentor figure and we saw her through Shallans eyes, which are somewhat biased and put Jasnah on a pedestal, She was basically gone from the second book only to return at the end and be told that everything she had been working on had either ruined or solved by someone else, and the third book is probably the strongest we've seen her to this point, and in RoW we see her overcompensate in an attempt to prove herself and the aforementioned struggle with expressing emotion to anyone. Jasnah is by no means perfect, though we haven't dived deep yet into the flaws as she has been pushed aside for other characters and well probably be getting more development in her book, but they are there, they are visible, and they do affect the story as if she won every struggle she had, there Parshendi wouldn't have opened the Everstorm and there would be no story. Traits of a Mary Sue consists of two things (They are by no means the only two, but they're the big ones), One is that they are flawless and do not struggle, the plot provides them with skills unearned and victories for every struggle. All of Jasah's skills can be clearly explained through her background, status, goals, interests, and determination, they are by no means impossible or even unlikely, and we have seen her struggles in what little we have seen of her, as well as her shortcomings in certain areas where it makes sense she would not have much experience with. And the second trait is the lacking of any weaknesses, which focus on more personal issues and as of yet have not surfaced beyond a certain point, which makes sense for a character who is very reserved. We have seen glimpses of what we may see in the future, and that is all we need for now until we get to her focus book, where we will finally get answers and explanations to a lot of this. So, @HSuperLee, while whether or not you like the character is completely your choice and I do understand why you seem to not like her, as what you find enjoyable in a character is very dependent on the person personality, how they enjoy content, and they view the world (And more), and is incredibly subjective, as is clear from the 'like' aspect, you are dead wrong in her being a Mary Sue, as there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. As for your other claims, I believe you said she is not unique and bland because she's a Mary Sue, because Mary Sues are often bland and unoriginal, so I may have countered those already, but if not and your consider those separate claims then... I got nothing for you. Those are a bit too broad for me to counter, and honestly, I don't care if she isn't very unique. You can have non-unigue characters that are still very well written, which honestly what I mostly care about, and blandness is, again, a bit too subjective for me to argue against, as people can say any character is bland to them, and it honestly depends on the characters they have seen and are used to. So, yeah, if that's what you think, okay. Anyways, I hope that shed some light on that issue and gave you some insight into the character so you may look at her with a new perspective. Once again, if dislike the character, that is fine, I'm not going to 'shun' you. I honestly do understand why people may not like Jasnah (Though I do disagree a bit with your reasoning for why you dislike her). I'm not the kind of person to be mad at you not liking or liking a certain character, it's only with claims that can be argued against I make passionate responses. Hope you have a less depressing winter than I.

Well, it might have to do that Vessels aren't immediately taken by a Shard's intent, so he might have some wiggle room for the time being. Also, this reveal made my jaw drop. I expect Rayse to be wounded, making him unstable in the next book, not dead. When Taravangian took up the Shard and said, "I will save everyone" I was wanting to hug my pillow and start rocking back and forth in fear, that moment was CREEPY. Words that might be reassuring from one person is terrifying from his mouth, with that power. And boy, I am not sure if Cultivation knows what she just made. I was already impressed with how the ending was going, and to pull that... Wow. Give me SA5, Sanderson, I need it! Also, who predicted Kell was in the Ghostbloods? That person just got the best, "I KNEW IT" moment of all time.

Wow, this exists. Anyways, why the name Chaos? Sorry if this has been asked before. Also, on a deeper note, do you not fear going away into nothingness when you die? One moment you are, and then the next, your not. Your consciousness no longer exists. Like, I get having aesthetic beliefs, but I feel you would still want to exist in some way when you die, there doesn't have to be a god for an afterlife to exist (Hopefully. I, personally, have a primal fear at the concept of me dying and no longer existing in any fashion, to the point where a lot of my choices are influenced by this as I try to find a way to live a life that won't easily be forgotten when I die, so I may at least live in the minds of others when I pass. I'm an agnostic, so the concept of a god to me is fine, though I don't put much weight on it at all and do lean more towards atheism than not, and seeing this new viewpoint of an atheist preferring no afterlife peaks my curiosity as one's preference is another atheist's/agonstic's nightmare.)

Guys, can we go back to talking about fantasy? Ene already has a club to talk about her mystical powers.

Hmm. I like it. True, but I can have a scientific name and a local name. We call ourselves both humans and homosapiens.

When you start naturally using the curse 'storming' in your vocabulary with your family.

Is it busier, though? I've seen Chaos answer to several spoiler complaints.

Definition of my life, though I have been lucky enough to find outcasts like myself to be friends with, and this is excluding the ones on the SHard.

Fine, I will restrain myself. Also, thank you, thank you very much.