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A space station made of stone would be very Rosharan.
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Hope we'll see how those ettmetal fabrials work in more detail. And maybe Brandon will write a Wayne chapter that I won't have to skip on rereads, who knows. I was really excited about the Graphic Audio adaptation of Lost Metal, love their versions of all Mistborn books. But now that their adaptation of RoW is here and I'm kind of hesitant.
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Instantaneous travel via Spiritual Realm
ScadrianTank replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Cosmere Discussion
The Perpendicularity to the Spiritual realm sounds weird, but the idea makes sense. It sounds similar to instantaneous traveling in the Wheel of Time. The problem with your method is that the portals would have to be tied to each other somehow. And if you can find a way to make it work, Oathgates and AonDor teleportation still seem better. -
Living Shardblades Underutilized?
ScadrianTank replied to AirsickAviar's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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Because there is no point? Thaidakar wants to have a monopoly on trade and supply of Investiture, and he can't have it without reliable supply. Imagine a scenario where he wants to do the same but on Scadrial. Would he force some Allomancers to burn metal and store its Investiture or go after the Mist? He likes to think big, our Thaidakar.
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You probably can stuff Stormlight into a Metalmind, but it's debatable whether it would be that useful. It can be if Investiture leaks slower from a Metalmind than from a sphere, then yes. The best thing you can do in terms of fuel for Surgebinding would probably be to get a direct pipe of Investiture from a Shard. Like the Heralds, who don't need spheres to Surgebind. Or if you could find a way to use Preservation's Investiture Allomancers get from burning metal to power Surgebinding. We don't know if you can store separate aspects of a "passive" magical effect. There is a WoB that says that you can store senses granted Allomantic bronze. But it isn't clear whether or not you can store the superior balance from Allomatic pewter or agility and restlessness from Stormlight, especially without other effects those types of Investiture provide.
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From BoM chapter 29: That depends on how you look at it. When healing wounds with Stormlight or F-Gold, you don't have to think about individual organs or body parts, the body is just restored to the Spiritual ideal of how you perceive yourself. You don't have to think about individual organs or body parts. So I might be reaching here, but a planet perceiving the rock, metal, and gas as its "body" seems right.
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In BoM, iron Feruchemy was used to affect the whole airship, so there might be a way. I don't see why you would need to change individual things. If a planet already has life on it that is incompatible with our species, why are we considering it for terraforming? And if genocide isn't something we care about, why bother changing them? If we have a planet like Mars, what would we change to make it more hospitable to human life? Making the atmosphere breathable and denser to block solar radiation would be the main thing, then water more accessible. This can be done with Forgery. After that, we can bring plants and animals in separately. Looking at it in terms of Spiritual attributes, we manipulate Identity to get the atmosphere and topography, Speed for orbital and rotational periods, and Mass for gravity. The complexity of changes is not a limiting factor here, scale is.
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I agree that draining light is more useful as a mass-produced weapon for the Fused, but I still think that if making Shards was as easy a forging a pile of Godmetal, they would have tried it. Odium being selective about what he tells his forces is very likely true, but it's hard to believe that after so many returns of fighting Radiants, the Fused wouldn't have figured out how the weapons of their enemies work.
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Surely Odium mentioned to some of his Fused scholars that Spren manifest as Godmetals in a Shardblade form.
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For point 2, I think about it as a Forger with a Dawnshard and an Aon that increases Forging strength, like the city of Elantris being a huge Aon Reo. Since everything in the cosmere has a soul, I assume you can adjust a planet's soul to change its characteristics. So if you can save the parameters of one planet and imprint them on another, you get magical terraforming.
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There probably is a way to do that without a Spren of any kind. Honorblades are not sentient, and they work just fine. From the Hemalurgic table and information on old fabrials from RoW, we can suppose that Godmetals can be used to all kinds of things, even imitate effects traditionally associated with a specific Shard. And if any Sharblade would be dangerous, it would be one made with Ruin's power. But because Intent matters, Scadrians would have to find some way to imprint this command to destroy on a blade, and that isn't something their magics can do. Because of this, I find Atium lightsaber-type of weapon somewhat easier to imagine. South Scadrians already have a way to extract power from Godmetal, so similarly burning Atium to enhance a regular blade or create an energy blade seems easier, in a way.
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Atium swords would not automatically be Shardblades in that they would be Invested but wouldn't have any special soul-cutting properties. Otherwise, the Fused would have pulled their Raysium together and made a few Shards for themselves. Figuring out how to stuff a regular object with Investiture so densely that you get something similar to Nightblood with any magic system other than Awakening seems impossible, at least for the moment. Maybe also AonDor, not sure about it, though. The way I think about it may be inherently flawed, so correct me if I'm wrong. Godmetals are the most Invested naturally occurring material in the cosmere, at least so far as we know. Brandon said that Nightblood is the single most Invested object in the cosmere. That means that Nightblood is more Invested than Honorblades, swords made entirely out of crystalized Investiture. Yes, we know that Nightblood consumes Investiture, and it wasn't as Invested when it was created as it is now.
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When Vasher pulled Nightblood's long lost twin out of Whimsy's Perpendicularity, I lost it.
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When I read RoW for the first time in an ebook form, Sibling was truly gender-neutral in my head. Spren representing natural and primal things made sense in my head to imagine them as amorphous spirits, like Seons. Then I listened to the audiobook version, and when rereading Sibling scenes, all I hear is Kate Reading's wonderful voice. But I also have a similar thing with Nightblood - I read its lines in a female voice, not sure why. So maybe it's just a me-thing.
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Going back to the original post, I got some thoughts. After rewatching all of Stargate, I want some sort of Zero-point Investiture being pulled directly from the Spiritual realm Bondsmith style but done technologically. Super Forgers powered by Forgery amplification Aons the size of a space station destroying star systems and creating black holes by Forging cores of stars for brief moments. Using Spiritual attributes of your home planet for terraforming with cosmere's biggest metalmind(s).
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I've been trying to think about a loadout one would equip a Metalborn to fight a Radiant. Specifically, a combination of a weapon and a Medallion to maximize the fighter's chances. To not run into questions of availability and plausibility, I limited myself to only using Medallions that grant two powers and give them to someone who is already a Misting or a Ferring, so no Twinborn or Bands of Mourning. Also, there will only be technology that Scadrians already use, so no fancy Ettmetal railguns, nukes, or directed shrapnel launchers. The way our hypothetical Scadrian wins is basically by pulling a Lezian, incapacitating first, then attacking until the Radiant dies. It sounds similar to how you would kill a Bloodmaker, but Radiants heal much faster, so yeah. We can do that in two ways, one using guns, another using a knife and Feruchemical steel. With a gun, we probably only need Allomantic Bendalloy and Feruchemical steel to shoot and reload faster. If we can get an Ettmetal cube, we add Allomantic chromium to leech away Radiant's Stormlight from a distance. If not, the next best thing would probably be to increase accuracy, so we add their Allomantic/Ferruchemical tin or Feruchemical zinc. So Bendalloy Misting with an F-steel and A-chromium/Tin/F-Zinc Medallion. That might get easier if you can throw in some dynamite or other explosive. With a steel Ferring, I see several approaches that depend on how much a Radiant can do while you are stabbing him in the spine. If one can leech Stormlight fast enough to drain the initial Stormlight stores away quickly and Radiant can't use their Light because it's healing them, we get A-chromium and A-pewter. If leaching isn't fast enough and Radiant still can't use their Stormlight, we get A-pewter and maybe F-Iron to make yourself harder to move. If Radiant CAN use their Surges, we should probably consider F-gold and either Allomantic or Feruchemical aluminum. F-aluminum should protect from Soulcasting while A-aluminum might(?) protect from other Surges. P.S. I have no idea how to kill a fourth Oath Radiant without a machine gun and an argument about how many foot-pounds of energy it takes to break a Shardplate. Same thing with Skybreakers and Windrunners, shooting at flying targets with anything semi-auto is unrealistic. I also didn't use any Compounding because twin steel breaks everything.
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Magical mega structures are cool but somewhat pointless since there is an entire Cognitive realm to colonize. That said, I really want to see Scadrians living at least on ringworlds by era 4. I think I said it in a different thread, but AonDor would be incredibly powerful for material synthesis. Since they can do something like Soulcasting (or they really can create something from nothing), once superconductors, carbon nanotubes, graphene, and other complex materials spread, Sel could make a nice profit from trading.
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I'm on the same page with @therunner grenades are a lot more useful in this case. Rarity aside, Ettmetal's effectiveness as a bullet is questionable. For one, specialized rounds, particularly explosive ones, of small calibers are not that effective. The projectile is not large enough to put a substantial amount of explosive material. I'm not sure how reactive Ettmetal is, so I might be wrong, but if you hit someone with a bullet made of material that reactive, wouldn't it react before penetrating deep enough to deal substantial damage? Then there is the whole thing with mass-producing explosive rounds that could detonate in storage due to dampness or rain. When I was trying to come up with a design for a tank or an IFV from Scadrial, I considered shells that would use Ettmetal. But in every case, it seemed a lot more useful to use it in a fabrial. Allomantic steel to push shrapnel further, iron to improve hit probability against other vehicles, cadmium or bendalloy for moving targets, Feruchemical brass to increase a chance of a fire, those kinds of things. And I remember thinking, " I'm going to throw away god knows how much rare magical metal on a single-use, non-guided projectile when I can probably use the same amount to reload and fire several regular shells with bendalloy. That seems like a waste."
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Theory: Odium's loophole with Dalinar
ScadrianTank replied to Ashebear's topic in Stormlight Archive
I see several possibilities for the battle of champions ending in Odium's victory. As foreshadowed by Wit, the duel will end in a tie. Odium is free, and all hell breaks loose. Dalinar loses and dies, but Odium resurrects him the same way Harmony did Wax, without making Dalinar a Cognitive shadow. If he keeps his bond to the Stormfather, as @Ashebear suggested, then Odium will force Dalinar to release him. Something crazy happens, like Dalinar Ascending even further to godhood, Cultivation yoinking a chunk of Honor's splintered power, or something like that. Some combination of the points above. Now, Book 5 will conclude the first half of the series. Knowing this, we should expect it to be even crazier than the ending of Hero of Ages. Maybe Odium loses but then tricks Dalinar into releasing him. Or Odium wins, and Cultivation Splinters him. -
That might be challenging depending on what Harmony is. Sazed said several times that he holds Ruin and Preservation, while we know from WoBs that Harmony is now a single Shard. RoW made me think that Harmony's problem is that he is trying to balance two types of Investiture that are so opposite to each other that they are almost Anti-Investiture. My point is that if a Shard is incapable of finding its internal harmony (like Warlight and Towerlight), people may find it difficult to create its opposite.
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F-Steel stores the speed of the body, doesn't it? For that to work, a Steelrunner would have to have a very intimate relationship with the jet, I think. Maybe you can make a jet with F-Steel fabrial built-in like the one Southerners use to lower the weight of their airships. But that would only affect its mechanisms like the flaps and landing gear, not the actual flight speed.
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That is a cool idea. I thought for some time that in Era 3, Scadrian fighter pilots would be using F-Iron to negate the stress of high-g maneuvers. The question here is whether or not the force of a steel push acting on a body counts as a change in weight. It should since Allomatic Iron and Steel produce an effect similar to a conjoined fabrial with aluminum. Pushing on a blue line counts as conjoining an Allomancer and the object, and from that point, they should act as a single entity in some ways. Allomancers can also transfer the energy of a push on their body by themselves pushing an object. We saw something like that in Vin and Zane against Straff's army and Wax's fight on a train, IIRC. That makes me wonder if a Windrunner got Iron or Steel Allomancy, could they Lash metal objects through blue lines without touching them?
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Regarding pushing on trace minerals and the Bands of Mourning, it seems that using the Bands consumes Fullborn Investiture stored in them. The first time Marisi uses the Bands, she taps every reserve and sees Mist coming from herself. What I think is happening is that she was tapping more Investiture than her body could hold, so it was leaking out, just like black smoke coming from Nightblood. Wax later notes that the stores that changed his level of Investiture were running out. If that is correct, then the Bands or any weapon like them is extremely limited in duration for this extreme "pushing on trace minerals in your blood" level of power. What that might mean is that a BoM-style metalmind that grants only one Allomantic power would make its user stronger with that skill than someone who is using the Bands. In a less is more sort of way. The sad thing about steel and iron savants is that we have no idea about their perks (and consequences). There is a WoB where Brandon spoke about maybe needing to change how savantism works. He was worried that Wax used his power so much that he had to have been a savant, but he wasn't showing any side effects. And that makes the speculation about what they can do a bit shaky, at least until the Lost Metal comes out. The WoB:
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I like to think that Full Feruchemists and Mistborn are running around the cosmere, working on Harmony's and Kelsier's behalf. It makes me think better about the lack of powers in Era 2. So until the books say otherwise, Axindweth and the Terriswoman from Warbreaker are full Feruchemists. As to why the Ghostbloods aren't cooperating with Kelek, we see the Ghostbloods haven't been friendly with the Sons of Honor for a long time. It seems likely that they had contacted one another at some point, but their partnership didn't work out, as evidenced by their spying and killing each other. Hopefully, we'll know more about Gavilar's relationship with the Ghostbloods in book 5.
