|TJ|

What was the reasoning given by the shooter for shooting Drake? And any indication (like in-thread) that Ruin has been converted?

Don't really recall early game stuff but really disliked the vote on Araris. The way both Fifth and Archer gave the Prudence charges reasoning, I feel they're both evil but of different factions. Archer more evil than Fifth. What do you think of Archer?

No, I didn't mean a risk of tie from someone who wanted to deliberately tie it. Meant more like if someone else wanted to shift votes with honest intent and we do it at the same time with the net result being a tie. Didn't want to risk that.

Yeah just wondering why xino vote took off but Araris did not. I'm staying put though, can't risk a tie at this stage.

I'm on phone traveling but I'm wondering if the Araris votes were meant to protect szeth? Not exactly sure of the timing of the votes so a bit suspicious of that.

Read your case for v!szeth and it made sense and I had forgotten about szeth attacked you earlier in the game. And now I don't like how szeth is panicking. Now that you're here, why did you vote in Elandera earlier in the cycle?

xino

Adding to Araris' question, why are you/others voting for xino?

This goes opposite to your prior theory that other faction leaders would not want to draw attention to themselves early in the them. Besides, Kas wondered the same thing (not necessarily threadbrawl, only paranoia). I have no idea what the cases are on current vote leaders. Araris seems to be one of Kas' PoE and then Fifth just piled up. Only legit reasoning given seems to be by deTess. Xino seems to be carrying over suspicion from D2 (what was the case on Xino in D2?) Archer voted Elandera for voting on Xino and Szeth just randomly piled on. The most suspicious of all votes seem to be Szeth's. @DeTess, thoughts on Szeth? Mat still feels off.

I did not vote Kas, was mildly paranoid about him and then got sucked into because Kas pulled me into a thread-brawl >>

i keep forgetting about vessel stuff smh. odium can splinter shards in containment right? if so, then the person to receive it could yeet it back to containment and drake could splinter it there.

hmmm fair. just recalled that ruin and odium bypass vessel shield protection. speaking of braize, i think its a good idea for ruin to destroy braize if they are village. why though? autonomy would prioritize investing to create avatars and if theyre investing, then they do not have action slot to steal investiture. which brings me to my next point, you did mention the importance to being wary of autonomys SD, but any reason why you arent increasing your charges of investiture?

why? i mean i know autonomy cannot win with the village but autonomy does not have to play anti-village either. because honest question, ask yourself, in a hypothetical (or real? :P) scenario in which you are autonomy, and you get your hands on some sort of kill mechanism, and there is no one who suspects you to be autonomy, do you kill someone you believe to be village or do you kill someone you believe to be of the other two factions? i suspect the answer to be the latter (not only because of your village loving tendency, but also because the other factions have outnumber wincon). okay im going down a rabbit hole i do not want to go sigh point is a little diminished as elims do not have guaranteed kills but agreed in that you cannot control if elims get their hands on odium/ruin. concede this point as well. unless... you dont want to win via SD xD and want to prolong the game. but thats a reach, i concede the point. no bro, the thing is, i DONNO the differenceeee. like you said you said you'd play the certain way and you are, but thats not village indicative though as it could be construed as village or (in my case) autonomy. the differentiation is what im trying to figure out. and i didn't say anything about this.i think it's a fairly reasonable way of trying to genuinely read me. but again, i dont know if it's v!kas who is trying to read me or a!kas. your argument is a!kas does not have an incentive to try to read players and just coast through the game especially when players have given the free pass to do so, i understand. now i have to figure out if your argument is genuine and if the free pass is enough to deter a frustrated kas from getting involved in the game even if he does not belong to the village (keeping in mind that autonomy does need to solve the game a bit as if all deaths are villagers, one of the other two factions win).

im not saying youre in your evil meta. im reading you a bit differently, more similar to your lg86 thief game. there are parallels im seeing. in very simple terms - starting off chill and unbothered but then slowly getting involved in the game. id argue that autonomy faction is more neutral than evil when compared to other factions. autonomy can actually solve the game if theyre interested as irrespective of faction of the players getting eliminated, the numbers are decreasing and as long as they are creating avatars they are on their way to completing their wincon. no disadvantage of playing pro-village game. i think your play is somewhat in line with this. im not saying elims would go to braize either. just warning villagers to be vary of our investiture charge count. i read your conclusion about more v!fifth credences as related to the events depicted in the write-up so i was curious about the connection.

its not unfounded smh. what better way to throw us off the trail than claiming that autonomy is "stalking" you? and its the way youve repeated that stalking thing like 4-5 times iirc, seems sorta performative, i feel like theres something there >> personal opinion, but i dont think any villager should spend 3 charges to kill a player, considering autonomys sudden death wincon. why?

Does that mean you're evil-reading Araris currently? Also, this is paranoia speaking but also gut-read, miiildly suspicious that Autonomy!Kas has been hoodwinking all of us >>

pretty solid v-read on Araris, courtesy of my gut-reaction on their Szeth vote. i think e!araris tends to move votes and i do think he ends up on one of the main wagons more often than not. agreed that returned mechanism is meddling with how i want to read it. without it, probably leaning evil. agreed that e!fifth fights more, but e!fifth also uses village appeasement techniques like the one we witnessed.

just going through posts and having only pure gut reads without delving deeper - gut evil reads from - archer, mat, szeth, fifth not sure why im getting gut evil read on fellas voting on turtle. have no opinion on turtle themselves. most evil gut read - mat

sigh guys expect same level of activity as my previous 2-3 games, really thought i'd be more free after may but work keeps piling up >>

aaaa i was on phone and misread their post, thought they intended to target drake the following turn, not that they already did.

See all this could be actually true and still you could be evil, it's an explanation of why you said what you said, not village alignment indicative. The reason why I'm voting for you is because I think, even if the reasons are true, it came from a malicious intent and not a good one. Edit - on my phone but the previous Alpha post gives me very much LG94 Alpha vibes.

[OOC: Gonna turn off Al Speak here for a second, I have spoken/mentioned by frustration about the game personally to Kas, and I do think there are definitely ways to show healthy contribution to village victory even by spending less time on the game making less than 5 posts per cycle IF players care about victory. And I do think even if they feel at times demotivated, they owe it to other other villagers who have put the effort to do so. There is a big difference between DGAF thread energy and minimal but important strong thread contribution.] If we rely on meta-analysis every time, it just means we're forcing players into playstyles and never really give them a chance to try out something new. Kas is long overdue a chill game imo, and we're good players here, we can figure out if Kas is evil without having to ask Kas to change is playstyle. And besides, if Kas is village, I'm sure he can show it without going all-in on his usual analysis style. watchya mean?

al had fully agreed and had noticed the same during the last night. he felt archy had attached tess for the ushual 'elims think like they dont prioritize pms' excuse and then backed off because he realised tess was right in the sense that pms are not a village priority this game cos of docs. archer change: i don buy archys 'forgot this game had docs' story. like cmonnnn this is a shard game, shardworld docs are one of the mosht important part/easy to remember part of the game

sorry kasbro, was super busy today. al looks around and finds himself back in silverlight. huh when had that happened. oh well no matter. twas time for another adventure. hed long since given up autonomy and was now just plain ol al. he looked at the shards in containment and dismissed them. meh. he just wanted to chill. holding autonomy was not troubling but this new found freedom unburdened from the intent of shards, he liked it. kinda like just getting out of a relashunship and finding you love being single. ah. that freedom.

The other way around but yeah, pre-determined pinch-hitter.