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this you freaked out for no reason. i was so peaceful that game :P. i claimed for no reason, just for fun :P.

smh am i and kas the only ones voting so far, wth guys? re-read d4 archer-tbb interaction and hmm, teeny bit less confident that before. one part of it might hint it doesnt seem e/e. the part is does is tbb is quite aggressive in their push back against archer. e/e tend to be more aggressive as they know they are faking it and not really being rude. v suspecting e usually tend to be more reasonable, calm and polite. case in point iirc tkn was quite apologetic voting for me in the last cycle of qf66. if its not tbb, then i reckon its between [wiz > araris]. fully convinced there was at least one distancing interaction by archer in d4. brother brother, you are supposed to chill this game. dont overthink and paranoid yourself. if im evil, im evil. xD not really seriously. more like a throwaway comment like "smh why do I still think kas is auto" not sure i recall correctly but i think i did try to be paranoid of you in lg83, maybe it was easier to fake because i was legit paranoid of v!kas faking thief but once it was obvious that you were the thief there was no need to fake paranoia. and yeah, village appeasement by the elim.

what, not speak about tros? :P. (i keep forgetting copying the image and pasting never works, always have to insert from url)

I thought it was this from the rise of skywalker - agreed with the other points and yeah walin not likely hoid. want to reread d4 tbb-archer interaction to be sure though.

It's funny how someone who has never seen Star Wars (past the original trilogy) can get other Star Wars references, assuming this is a TRoS reference :P. Kas I'm not still sticking to you!aut theory smh, i was about to come back to it BEFORE drake claimed aut. worried if autium (odonomy?) is actually slowly working towards killing villagers (ie detess) working towards his wincon because if we kill the remaining hoid+partner they lose. expected him to kill araris in the night actually. im like 90% sure araris is not hoid. maybe 95. but i do think he could be h-partner. alright, lesgo. TBB. unsure about tbb-fadran connection though.

i have no idea whats going on in your head. anyways, which hoid would convert archer+fadran? turtle/tlf are bout to be yeeted. tbb,wiz,szeth. need to reread the cycle in which xino died to narrow this down. no clue what hoid!walin would do either. my actions: n0 - siphon d1 - nothing n1 - siphon d2 - nothing n2 - siphon d3 - burn invention (had this from start) n3 - siphon d4 - burn x n4 - siphon d5 - burn x n5 - endowment on stink

just finished lunch break. back to the grind it is for me. sigh.

im already confused enough without having to deal with your sarcasm kaaaas. sigh >> okay assuming the aut who claimed to you is someone else, why would they lie? perhaps they are hoid. i wonder if drake/aut/hoid have deal with them or something.

okay either you are auto or someone else (not drake) has claimed auto to you. or drake claimed frost or something to you. okay.

I was happily ignorant and now im six ways confused -.-

i was just about to say i didnt know why you were surprised by drakes post, you were speaking so familiar of auto in the thread i thought they had claimed to you, but apparently not lmaoo xD

i did say that was a paranoid theory and paranoia = overthinking :P. tbh just before drake posted it, I did want to say I still kinda think you were auto but hey, it was one of you two :P. edit: everyone is raving, no one wants shards -.-

no one let me know also im never gonna stop playing off-the-cuff smh, my reads have been immaculate this game. its my overthinking that ruins my reads >> also very greedy of drake to hog 2 shards >:( grrr

Hmmm I used Endowment's Charge on STINK and now I know why it failed.

looking back at all the links kas as linked and ive gotta say... damn i had some really decent reads in the game :P. anyways kas about that 'archer more sus than fifth thing' honestly the whole game ive been doing throwaway comments, literally the first thing i think of, im posting. and that post, emphasis is supposed to be "both are evil but mostly from different factions" because of the prudence argument thing. was feeling archer more evil than fifth but i dont even know why, just a gut read. and perhaps because archer had more content at the time than fifth.

>> im so out of the loop man, i've missed last 12 hrs of a couple of cycles. if you have revealed the shooter and i missed it, please point me to them. if you havent, how do expect me to knowww? :P.

i think only i've mentioned anything along the lines of this so pardon me if youve felt that way. let me clarify, while i did mention your increase in activity, it is the content of the increased activity which i suspect, not that you became active itself. the specific content being - i felt you were trying to get/ convince Kas on your side. it gave me the vibes of ag!evil!coinshot!you. @Kasimir, whats your opinion on the braize shooter?

I think I'll always be wary of e!Fifth, but I only mention I'm paranoid of him when he opens really strongly and everyone rushes to v!read him. When he opens not quite strongly and just floats in the background, I don't really form an opinion until he has more content (like there's a clear difference in games he opens strong with huge blocks of opinions right from D1, those games, he scares me). I did mention you and DeTess in my village reads last night. but I'm really coming up empty on other conversion targets (other than elan/Araris). I did mention I'm paranoid about tbb-archer distancing. tbb's play against archer in last cycle very much feels in v!tbb meta but I can't help but feel it's manufactured for distancing.

@Kasimir, the reason I'm suspecting Elandera-180 is because initially she was quiet and kinda into the background, but after the turn I mentioned there was an increase in the activity and an increase in her efforts to provide you satisfactory answers i.e. village appeasement. Also, I'd like to disagree that I did not mention my wariness about Fifth. I particularly mentioned his "it's alright I am okay to die for the village cause" move as likely to be evil. but not sure if he had been converted at that point. current reads are focusing on elan, araris. worried about tbb distancing. drake could be auto I suppose (perhaps action economy could disprove it but im not concentrating on that, someone could let me know). wiz/szeth are village i think. need to look more into stink/turtle/other nonactives.

Hmm not exactly what I meant. I just don't like the way you seem to construe deTess' vote on Archer as being distancy when she's been suspecting Archer since D1. Ah my bad. In my head, Elandera is slotted in as "converted in N3" so I didn't even think to consider her, but yes she fits in the in the group. And I totally forgot about STINK.

not hoids team - kas, tess, szeth, wiz most likely to convert archer - drake, araris, tbb (tiiiny bit suspicious of distancing similar to d1 of lg94) most likely to convert fifth - kas, araris, tess, mat i can relate to this (to detess), which is why i said ive got a gut feeling that elandera was converted during n3. nope, twas tess, me then kas. this is suspicious because mat seems to want tess in a spotlight, when detess was on archer since d1. feels malicious and not genuine.

see this is what i meant when i said hes behaving like lg94!d1!archer. where we switched up between you and tkn so many times and hes doin the same thin now. albeit with tbb, wiz and a lil bit of you on the side.

@Kasimir, if you ask me detailed explanation this game, I'm sorry bro. As I said, I'm just going through this game. I will give you my state of mind regarding Archer though. It's still mainly gut from D1. And iirc Fifth seemed teamed up with Archer. And a bit more confident this cycle as I think he's behaving like his evil self in LG94 (switching from Mat to TBB very reminiscent of that game). Also, another pure gut note. Elandera was converted during N3. Dont' know which faction, but I believe she was converted during N3. Edit - Current village reads - Kas, deTess, Szeth, maybe a tiiiny bit part Mat (the part where Kas points out something and Mat points out the same thing - the observation he made felt like it was analysed from a village perspective)

They could lie, but are they willing to reveal their new wincon? I assume it's going to be on the lines of 'destroy X planets'. Also, I'll join deTess on Archer.

No, I meant like, in case that the shooter is evil, and they converted Ruin to their faction.