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  1. Master Silver
    @Leuthie Naturally, you would need to add back in other light. I forgot to mention that. So it would be a bit like an operation. Being able to do it without killing the unmade would likely be difficult. And as far as Taravangian goes, I think you are correct. I was just thinking of how you could strengthen the vessel.
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    I am not sure what the Trell are, but after seeing Ruin and Odium in action (and mind yo, both had the stuffing kicked out of them by the two best humans ever holding the shards of Preservation and Honor), I find it hard to imagine a more dangerous enemy than a Shard.
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    With anti-light, their is the possibility of remaking the Unmade. They were made, then they were unmade, and then they were reforged. Sounds like something Dalinar would do. Especially if Navani and the sibling get in on this. Also, just had a thought. Can Taravangian become a Radiant. Like if he really wanted to could he bond a spren of Honor or Cultivation and thus help him keep a handle on the power of his shard?
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    So, what I don't get or rather what I would do if I were Taravangian, is tell Dalinar the truth. That he killed the vessel of Odium and can now control this power. Mention that their are other rogue Shards out their and that they have a duty to stop them. Have Cultivation vouch for you. She will likely agree to tell Dalinar that she is teaching Taravangian to control the power. Play the hero, and thus rob Dalinar of his victory. Dalinar can't win if you have already beaten the bad guy. Then convince Dalinar to release you.
  5. Master Silver
    In the words of Mace Windu (regarding Moash), "he's too dangerous to be left alive." Kaladin, "It's not the Windrunner Way." Scar, "I'm ending this now." Kaladin, "I am not Anakin Skywalker."=Fifth Ideal :-p
  6. Master Silver
    Swearing new ideals certainly does make them more efficient. And perhaps it is just that the Radiants specifically Kaladin and Shallan (the two main radiants we have seen develope) have gotten better with their powers due to experience which happens to coincide with swearing more ideals. Dalinar has not seemed to progress as much as the other Radiants in terms of learning his powers, but understanding the powers of a bond smith may be more complicated. It just makes me wonder what Navani will be able to do. I think the Tower is actually not one Bondsmiths work, but the collective work of all the Bondsmiths that were ever bonded to the Sibling. Therefore, although Navani might be able to give it some upgrades, I don't see it being an impregnable fortress being relevant. But if they are able to grow enough food their to supply the remaining cities with Oathgates, even if they get cut off and besieged, that would be big. What can anyone learn in 10 days though?
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    Question, what makes you think his old plate is Dustbringer plate? Also, in regards to Shallan. I think you are correct that it will be easier for her to revive her old blade. Assuming her new bond doesn't interfere with it. It would also be interesting if the reason she is rubbish at the surge of transformation is because that is what her and Testament excelled at, and now she has a mental block. So in an ironic twist she was the soul caster that first made her family wealthy. And when she finishes re-swearing her old oaths, she will soul cast like Jasinah and and light weave like Shallan. Also, isn't there a form of fighting with two blades? Adolin/Dalinar's Reshadium should get the extra set of plate since Shallan won't need it.
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    Possibly greater than a fused level of power. It seems like Radiants that reach the fourth ideal eclipse a Fused in terms of power. Radiants of the third ideal seem about equal, maybe a little less skilled and combat effective than a Fused. But a Storm form or even a War form Radiant would have an edge over a human radiant in terms of strength or raw power.
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    I'm with you on Fused not being Regals. I was just curious if Regals can have the same form as Fused. Or do the forms of power that the Fused have require larger amounts of investiture of Odium?
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    I'm curious what sort of advantages a Regal with a radiant spren would have over a human. Venli has shown us that Regals can actually have radiant spren. So aside from Storm form, what other Regals have we seen. Does anything strike you as a natural pairing? Like a heavenly one bonding an honor spren would rule the skies. Can Regals have the same forms as the Fused?
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    Dalinar did give up his blade for a bunch of slaves. And refused to lie to save his position in the coalition. He is certainly not the man he was. I think Dalinar of RoW might take the death spot during a bridge run.
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    I think that Sanderson has been dropping hints of an underlining flaw of Shards. They are all bound and driven by a singular ideal. Odium's conversation with Dalinar highlights this. Odium says, "the power will eventually bind you too." Right now no one is wielding enough of Honor's power to ascend/be bound by the rules of the Shards. And perhaps this was Honor's intent. to split his power so that it can be wielded without binding whoever is using it. The Honor blades are the clearest example of this, Honor's power without oaths. As of right now, Dalinar is able to wield much of Honor's power, only being bound by the oaths of a Radiant Bondsmith, not the rules of a Shard allowing him to interfere directly in events on Roshar. Kaladin is the same way. What Kaladin inherited from Tanavast is unclear at this point. It is safe to say that Kaladin is Stormblessed and known by the winds. What that ultimately means though, we have yet to find out. I'm still convinced that somehow, when Tanavast died, part of his power latched on to Kaladin and maybe some latched onto Syl. Like perhaps she absorbed some of it becoming stronger and more self-aware in the same way that the Stormfather did. The Stormfather absorbed/merged with Honor's cognitive shadow, but Syl and Kaladin getting hit with splinters would explain why they seem stronger than other Windrunners. AND (getting back to your theory) because they have part of Honor's power, Cultivation has an interest in seeing this grow and the splinters be put back together. This would make them demi-shards? Half-Shards?
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    Another thought is, Odium can make the contest the war. @BenduLuke gave me the idea when talking abotu scale. The contest has no preset scale, as if it needs to be a duel. So just say the contest is to conquer Roshar, or better yet, to conquer Kohlinar (fused get defenders advantage lol).
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    On this topic, what is the Truth Watcher spren? Is a Mist Spren different than the Reachers (and is a mist spren unintelligent like wind spren). If Wind spren are corrupted and then bond what are their surges? I'm just a little confused.
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    I'm relatively young, but I honestly can see this taking more than 6 books. I did enjoy RoW. I just thought it needed to be another 200 pages to flush out a couple of things. All mysteries don't need to be revealed of course. But we could have used another 50 pages in Shadesmar so it wasn't so choppy. Would have enjoyed listening to the beginning of a Shallan and Kalak conversation. I also would have liked to have seen a little bit more done with the plate. What we got was amazing, but after waiting three books (and these are Stormlight books so they are huge). I was just hoping to see living plate get taken for more of a spin. The reveal about the Reachers at the end was game changing, but again seemed like loads of things happened off screen and having at least a few more bread crumbs wouldn't have hurt. Same thing goes with a Sibling,Navanii, Stormfather Dalinar conversation. All of those things I feel would have added to the story, and been a way to fill in some of the gaps. I am starting to feel like we need a systematics text book for the magic system which is then going to get completely upended and thrown out because we will have a bunch of new hybrid spren doing things that no one has ever seen before, but we haven't even seen all or really most of what the old magic system can do. Again we are +5000 pages in. And 18 years from the end of the story. I love it, but :-(
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    And whatever Adolin was in Oathbringer, he is more than after RoW. I would be very surprised if he couldn't at least do what Kaladin was doing before swearing any ideals. One thing I did find dis-satisfying about RoW, is that Brandon is making the world too big. The magic system was complicated enough without adding in a bunch of exceptions or changing the magic system. We haven't even seen what all ten orders are capable of or gotten to see what a fifth level radiant is capable of and we are what, 8,000 pages in and the magic system hasn't even been fully defined. I feel like we need 10 short like 120-150 page books that just give us a base line for the orders. Give us a herald and his order, with a series of short stories. There are even more lose threads at the end of this book, and I feel like Adolin got short changed.
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    I'm curious if Adolin's interactions with Maya in RoW have changed or cemented any change in her compared to a regular dead-eye spren. In Oathbringer, Adolin summoned her in 7 heart beats, and she briefly was able to speak into his mind. She is even more self-aware and their bond is stronger after RoW. Does that mean that Adolin can now draw in trace amounts of stormlight? How far can this bond go without him swearing ideals. What if Maya is speaking the ideals in reverse order, that would be interesting. I guess we have a few years to speculate. And another 20 before the series is done.
  18. Master Silver
    But the spren was in her spren form. From my reading on RoW it would take something as heavily invested as Nightblood to kill a Radiant spren in blade form. Radiant Spren seem to be more invested than shardplate which is why they can crack and break shardplate. But even then, that doesn't kill the spren that forms the plate. only disrupts them, making it so they need stormlight to reform. The hardness of a radiant/shard blade, makes it unlikely that a blade with a anti-light in a gemstone would do the trick. You would have to either make the anti-light into a solid state or return the Radiant spren into their gaseous/light state
  19. Master Silver
    I am unsure on this, but in RoW (CH 111) Dalinar is traveling like 200 mph, and that may be on a single lashing. So Skybreakers and Windrunners may be able to get up to 600-800 mph.
  20. Master Silver
    Lol well played. And I didn't realize that the Heralds had a huge drop off in power after Honor's death. I though the blades were how Honor directly powered them.
  21. Master Silver
    So from this discussion, and I'm not sorry at all for putting Nale up against the Lord Ruler, it seems like certain surges would fair far better against a full born than others. Some surges like soul casting would make it so that the fullborn loses their powers. Other surges, like regrowth seem to make radiants (and I imagine heralds heal faster). The closest thing to a fullborn we have in Stormlight Archives is Nale (only herald who joined the knights radiant). So Nale has plate, honor blade, and for good measure another shardblade (which can be whatever weapon he needs to include a shield). Honor blades allow Heralds to draw on the same amounts of power that Vyn did. The Lord Ruler vs a Herald is about as good a match up as we will get TLR (1000 years experience vs Heralds (5000 years). Also, this fight would have them both using swords essentially, so not gun vs sword. But if you take a Herald (your choice) and then have them bond a radiant spren of a different order, does this fight become lopsided the other way? Side note, we may see heralds bond spren to help fill cracks in their spirit webs. Seems reasonable to me
  22. Master Silver
    lol no he doesn't have infinite strength. Just what he has stored up over 1000 years. The Lord Ruler is only a sliver. Shardblades are heavily invested, and honor blades are even more heavily invested. Atium of course or durallimin (spelling) gives TLR the edge, but from watching Ishar fight in RoW, I had a thought. We know that seeing the future is something all Shards can do, some are just better at it than others. SPOILER Atium was a part of you know who, just like the blades are a part of Honor. Since we don't know everything the honor blades can do, why couldn't the blades also grant the heralds similar abilities in combat like Atium? All I have for that speculation is Ishar vs the windrunners. Also, Odium was/is convinced that Surge binding is the best magic system and he knows about the other magic systems. I think we are all underestimating the heralds
  23. Master Silver
    Challenge accepted. I propose Nale. I have no idea what division does, but I imagine Nale is at least a match for Ishar in terms of combat ability. I know as a bondsmith Ishar wields some crazy amount of power. Fifth Ideal Radiant who happens to be a herald for the win :-p
  24. Master Silver
    This is the point I think I was thinking of. Yes if the twin born or Mistborn has enough investiture lying around, for twin borns like Wax, if they have enough speed stored up. But how long does it take to store 5 minutes of speed so you can move super fast (faster than arrows). I think we saw Dalinar cruising along at 200 mph in RoW. So you have speed bubbles but again you have to store speed. If the twin born or even fullborn gets to store up months or years of investiture of course they will win, but what you have essentially done is who would win if they got in a fight the Flash (in the case of Wax) or Superman (in the case of Vyn with the mists or a fullborn like the Lord Ruler) or a Radiant. So I think we really have to define terms of the battle. If they don't have a ton of an attribute in their metal minds even being twice as fast and strong won't do you much good. 10x as fast and strong likely gives you the edge over the advantages of plate. Anyway sorry if someone has already mentioned this
  25. Master Silver
    And that is sort of my conundrum. We have seen with Kaladin and Shallan Radiants learn to use their powers, and this sort of has gone hand in hand with swearing new ideals. Kaladin's lashings and learning how to fall with style. Even in RoW we saw him learn to use adhesion much better. Same thing with Shallan and light weaving. She went from making singular light weavings to light weaving an army. I imagine she has her plate now even though we haven't seen it. If bonding the sibling and swearing higher ideals is supposed to go with discovering how to use fabrials (in a normal desolation cycle) having Navanii already as a master artifabrial scientist and scholar means that her journey will need to be different. Maybe she will learn about the nature of spren. I really hope it is well written and story telling doesn't take a back seat to some agenda.
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