Honorless

Taln discovered fire by telling Stick to turn into fire.

Also 'Aluminados' sounds like the sequel to Despacito

Hurt Rira, heal the Roughs Iri - 10 Rira - 9 Reshi Isles - 9 Herdaz - 10 Aimia - 10 Shinovar - 10 Jah Keved - 10 Alethkar - 10 The Roughs - 9

Why are there some people I can't give rep to ( @Lord Bookwyrm & @Oudeis), what are Members2? Why was this kind of membership created?

None of the answers given so far have been correct 1) This place is noted to have an excess of something that is relatively harder to come upon otherwise 2) This place is located a bit away from the action, so to speak, as remarked by in-book characters 3) This place is of a colour that makes it notable 4) A main character has been in this place 5) This place was breached/infiltrated don't think too hard

stick-on tattoos? Final Empire Obligators? Ok then

Finally someone successfully set that dastardly stick on fire

'Lending'?

Isn't that basically Connection Ferrings (duralumin)?

I should point out that in Mistborn: Secret History, Kelsier asks the spirit of an Obligator what Koloss were, the Obligator answers in one word. Normally I would have taken it to be an indication of info leak or deduction rather than knowledge but the Obligator also displays behaviour that makes it seem like he's somewhat Cosmere-aware and knew about the Cognitive Realm, recognizing it. And it does make sense that the Obligators would know more than them being kept in the dark. They were the leaders of the Steel Ministry till the Canton of Inquisition took over in TFE.

The level of permissions and how much a mod can interfere has changed, hasn't it? I remember seeing wholesale edits of other people's posts, that hadn't crossed any rules as far as I could discern. I also remember seeing an edit by Pagerunner at one point though, was he a mod before?

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come on guys, you can do it!

Not that we know of. The Highstorm, the investiture Cycle, and Stormlight in Gems all predate the Shards (and the Shattering of Adonalsium, for that matter). But also, Roshar is its own corner case, since it was intensionally created by adonalsium for some purpose, and currently has unnatural processes that will eventually wind down (fractal continent, unnatural planetary orbits). If I recall correctly the Ashyn magic was supposed to be based on some form of Surges, but I was pretty sure they werent the same 10 That's speculation Should we continue our discussion here, on your thread?: or here on Oltux's: It's disorienting having the same debate across multiple topics.

Not that we know of. The Highstorm, the investiture Cycle, and Stormlight in Gems all predate the Shards (and the Shattering of Adonalsium, for that matter). But also, Roshar is its own corner case, since it was intensionally created by adonalsium for some purpose, and currently has unnatural processes that will eventually wind down (fractal continent, unnatural planetary orbits). If I recall correctly the Ashyn magic was supposed to be based on some form of Surges, but I was pretty sure they werent the same 10 Hmm, the last part, why?

try again

There goes my plans for acquiring & putting to use a Death Note (because there's no way I'm getting the Eyes of Shinigami in exchange for part of my lifespan!)

Wait, the pic's missing Mistborn Prime

Current theory is that Dragonsteel was Adonalsium's godmetal

No mention of what the "Elantrians" taken by the Shaod but not enhanced by the city look like (not talking about Hoed) or magics of Sel before Devotion and Dominion got taken out in either WoBs or 10th anniversary annotations @Oltux72, I've always wondered if the Ire might've been the original Elantrians. The ones who built Elantris to amplify their powers and then got bored of immortality/severe restrictions, and decided to explore, becoming the Worldhopping organization we saw in Mistborn: Secret History

Agreed that it should change with such a drastic event but why would it need to change the part where the magic is utilized via symbols? The change caused by shoving Devotion & Dominion into the Cognitive Realm is that the magics got region-locked due to the Cognitive Realm distinguishing between such. Even so, Selish magics being unavailable outside of Sel seems much more a direct result of that than region-focused magic, which was probably based on the Cognitive Realm itself being affected by people's perception of being different from other groups than anything fundamental about having a Shard hanging around in the Cognitive. I'm arguing that the problem got exacerbated with their Splintering rather than being created with it

We do see symbols appearing as a natural part of other Investiture systems (Surgebinding), though not involved as heavily as AonDor, it might be a good indicator of a Cognitive Realm based source or conduit of power, good catch there I believe Selish magics' focus very much were symbols even before D&D's death, it's just the region-specificity (in form & function) that was introduced to them afterwards. The Surges were very much a part of the Rosharan system before the Shards' arrival, weren't they?

Do they need to be though? Do we have any WoBs regarding what those taken by the Shaod would look like without being amplified by the city? Also any indication of what pre-Devotion & Dominion magic might've looked like?

How much could a magic change at their Shard's death? As per Brandon the answer varies widely depending on the circumstances (see eg of Allomancy & Returning for two very different Investiture phenomena that would remain relatively unchanged). I'm suggesting a proto AonDor, since the Selish magics seem to be focused on forms & coding, without the element of region lock. The proto Aons might not have been in the shape they are now either (i.e. the shape of Arelon)