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I mean this is actually what Brandon told us would happen. Vessel destroyed but shard unharmed

Proably a variety if Vorin kingdoms. Sorry I dont have a more definitive answer.

Oof. That would be bad.

There are sapient spren without Radient bonds. Its OB somewhere.

Alright, you're starting to convince me. This is going to be a gun thread to follow.

I evidently need to reread that bit.

But of it is an Aviar we could be dealing with an investure resists investure situation.

That more then anything shocked me. Completely out of left field. I cannot believe Rasye is out of the picture that easily.

I wish I knew

@Personification Brandon has described them as the equivlent of sitine chapel portraits. Probaly created by famous, but unknown, artists.

I don't guys you say it feels like Kelsier and you have logic to back it up, but all I can say is to me it feels like a red herring. Edit: a small piece of evidence. Kelsier generally isn't one to share power.

My gut says the loophole is if Dalinar breaks the oath, but that may be too simple a solution.

I'm sure that all Odium took was the memory of the first converstaion. He realized he had tipped Wit off to how he could truly win so he did a do over. Taking anything else would let run the risk of what he had done being discovered.

I don't think its true geolocation at all, just an offshoot of her memory powers. If i'm not mistaken Shallan took over at the point spefically to trace their path.

I read the passage the same, good thoughts.

I am certain that he only removed those few minutes of memory. Odium wouldn't risk tipping Wit off.

I DID IT I WAS RIGHT! I DIDN'T HAVE THE WORDING RIGHT BUT I HAD THE ESSENCE OF THE IDEAL! I WILL RETURN WHEN I HAVE FINSIHED THE BOOK. Edit: Ok, I've calmed down a little bit, but this is still a really big deal to me. My first ever cosmere theory, that I first presented to Brandon himself was correct. And I was not imagining the knowing smile he gave me!

Here's a quote I haven't seen anayzed yet. Nikki explaining to Rysn why he left his "village." So much of what he said was true, his people being small and liking to know about the wider world. Just in general Nikki seems like the kind of guy who doesn't lie unless he has too. I'm sure it has to be one of the Sleepless probaly one of the 20 that still protect the Dawnshard as he wouldn't see the others. I'm rereading Dawnshar dright now and just got to this quote so I might add as I continue reading.

I won't actually tell you what happens, but it has been addressed already in the pre-release chapters.

Oathbringer

Oof

@Pagerunner OK, I understand now. Seems we were putting the emphasis on different words. "Four of them" vs "Four of them." We're on the same page now.

I seem to have a very different mental picture of this mural to the thatn the rest of you so I drew a couple pictures. First here's the desccription. You seem to be imagining Mural 1. 4 pieces broken into 4 more smaller pieces representing the 16 shards and confirming the 4 divisons of shards theory. I don't think that can be right because the quote reads "4 of them" are further broken down. This would imply there are more pieces of Ado then the 16 shards. I think it looks like Mural 2. 16 rays for 16 shards 4 shaterred for devotion, dominion, ambition, and honor. What do you guys think, and pardon my ms paint.

That makes a lot of sense with their singer heritage. A lesser form change and a closer connection to the cognitive realm in general. I swear there's a refernence to Rock briefly hjearing the Rythms to.

We have a basic idea Rysn tells us they are the "will of a god." The will of adonalasium. It appears he seperated this power from himself for some reason and it was somehow later turned against him by the vessels. If the Dawnshards were divided from A first and then what was left of A was divided into the 16 shards then a single DS would be way more powerful than a single shard. Thoughts? Also last post for tonight. I hope y'all have some great stuff for me tomorrow!