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Hmm, I don't know if I will have time for this... But I should be able to squeeze some time in during travel... I will sign up as Loren Mezna

Determination can be quite powerful... Have you ever played Undertale?

No, I just really like Zinc compounding, and plan on my character having that powerset... once I get around to creating them...

Yay! you didn't put Zinc on that list!!! : )

I live in Washington state, and demand you retract your statement! : P Though we can comprise and say PNW is... granted, that is without counting tropical rainforests...

If araris is an elim, cadcom and Maill would be possible elim candidates due to their pushing the lynch past Araris. But honestly, I think we are better off doing analysis from previous cycles, as there was so little activity here.

I dont have as much time as I thought I would this cycle... Hopefully I will be able to get on again before rollover, but no promises. I am going to switch my vote to Rath due to Araris' reasons. I dont think my vote on Karn is really doing anything useful at the moment... Karn Rath Edit: ninjad CadCom @Cadmium Compounder that is the issue I have with the PM chain thing. (Which I think I brought up to a couple people in PMs). Personally, I havent been seriously trusting the Seeker or vote manip claims in thread. I doubt I will truly trust them until I know which player is the role that is claiming. I doubt the seeker will contact me, but I do currently have 1 vote manip player I trust, so that is something...

*wasn't I nominated Ark. : )

What are some of the nice plots for newcomers?

Hi Elandera! Guilds are definitely a good way to find a direction for your charecter to go. If you want to start RPing, you can also just jump into just about any thread and make your presence known (I think you can alternatively make a new thread as an introduction). Umm, I technically havent gone past the joining a guild phase, so people, please correct me if something i said is wrong.

Was this fast? This game went on for 2ish weeks right? Isnt that how long a MR is supposed to take? It felt fast to me, but I have only played LGs before... I should mention though, I struggled with the hidden cap on the blight. After D2 or D3, I started panicking as I thought the village had essentially already lost the game to the blight. And I had to take a break from SE to calm down. I think that was the cycle i forgot to defend Rand... so thank you Elims for not capitalizing on that... : )

Hmm... I think this game was actually pretty well balanced between elims and villagers until Devotary's death. If Perrin was not in the Emonds Feilder doc, I think the game would have been evenly balanced until the end. I say this because I underestimated the power of the emonds fielder role at the beginning of the game, but there just seems to be so many roles that the village can't afford to lose (Lan, Moiraine, Green Man, Rand, Emond's Fielder). I think that having Perrin be in the emonds field just acted as a huge double blow to the village. I dont think this would have really mattered all that much, but being N1 really hurt. Which was really just luck on the elims part I think. I also want to point out, we actually did have more than 1 mislynch. The game didnt end this past cycle. It is only ending because the elim win is inevitable. I think we had 3-4 mislynches actually. Judging from what I read in the spec doc, the game could have been extended if more people cast defence actions as well.

We decided Ark should be acting leader due to his... um... charismatic-ness? In all seriousness though, the keepers are a very differant guild than the others in the allyverse, and we asked Ark to be acting leader, as out of the people we could choose, Ark has the most Allyverse experience, guild experience, and time to dedicate to something like this.

Quote from the Emond's Fielder doc: *cough* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *cough* I was your patron or something... I haven't read the whole book yet, but I assume we are linked somehow as our powers were in this game... : ) I would also like to point out that I am allergic to honey mustard... So... Yeah... : ) Reading the Emonds fielder doc pains me... Rand, you knew who it was the whole time, you just second guessed yourself... lol. Hmm... Interesting quote from the elim doc: Umm... I can assure you, I wasn't an elim. xD I would also like to point out this AMAZING quote from one of the writeups: I asked Fifth about this, as ellipses are generally considered one of my "tells", and it was just a coincidence. However, reading this was so funny for me. I would also like to clarify what I meant by the line: I was not using back channels. I forgot that the elims had a roleblock action, and thought I must have been roleblocked by Moiraine. This was me trying to communicate with Moiraine telling them I was a role-d villager. They may or may not have believed me, but I was trying to communicate that. I specified Lan because they were connected via PMs, and the misspelling of "ther" was intentional. I was trying to say "her" to reference Moiraine, but make it more believable to people I was talking about Lan. I want to thank Fifth and Elandera for running such an enjoyable game. I am learning that I love games with complex rulesets. (you all better hope I never end up creating one of these games) : ) EDIT: If I was to learn 1 thing from this game, I shouldn't trust my own analysis... Granted, I suspect this isn't the best idea... Maybe I should analyse this concept a bit more...

I am still working on analyzing some other people... But for now, I am going to cast my vote on Karn. He was very active and vocal in the MR, and now that that is over, I find it odd that they haven't spoken up or done much analysis yet this game. The first couple turns make sense as the MR was going on, but now it has been a full cycle, and still nothing. Beyond Karn, Araris actually did push back against the Itiah lynch in a sort... Potentially trying to cast suspicion on CadCom and myself... Though I think there is a decent chance village!Araris would have said the same thing... Karn

Umm... Oops, I didnt mean to copy over that part of my notes... : / I wrote that part Yesturday I think... Not really relevent today. Even the "SEed out" part. I am fine now. : )

This is what I have at the moment, this is without factoring in the results we just learned or anything. The next players I will be looking at are Snipexe, Jondesu, Araris, and Aman if I can manage it... My cousins will be coming back over to my house, which means I will have significantly less time to do stuff while they are over. Maill: Slight elim D3: Was against the Itiah lynch, gave Itiah a lot of benifit of the doubt in our PMs, though I don't think that was too suspicious. And tried to put pressure on CadCom, who helped start the lynch. D4: Pushed for Snipexe's lynch pretty hard. Snipexe and Maill won't both be elims. Alv: slight village D3: Tied the vote between Jon and Itiah, but that seems like a very "Alv" thing to do I think... was the second vote on Itiah encouraging people to consider lynching them, Itiah tryed to divert votes onto them, and Alv locked in their vote on Itiah. Gancho: leaning village Started the lynch votes on Itiah D3 and D4. Kept his vote on Itiah through the next cycle. It a big reason why Itiah was lynched. Though it is possible that he was converted N3, and then just bussed Itiah D4. The fact that Gancho claimed that CadCom was roleless would make the elims more likely to target Gancho then, as they would prefer to have a role-d elim than not. CadCom: leaning village. Was the second vote on Itiah D3, and voted on Maill D4. I dont think Maill and CadCom can both be elims. The only weird thing with CadCom, is Maill targeted CadCom as a response to CadCom going against Itiah, it is strange then that CadCom would choose to target Maill instead of Itiah. If he targeted Itiah, and they fliped elim, he would have a good case to go against Maill. But instead he chose the retaliation vote? Lumgol: Village Seems very genuine in our PM. Itiah tried to lynch her as well. The tough thing is, an elim D4 would either try to push a mislynch, OR and Itiah lynch. The reason to do the Itiah lynch is because in the early game people said we should kill anyone who survives a lynch. So it would be a really effective bus. I think it very possible that Alv was converted N3 and waited for Itiahs permission to push that lynch... the rest would be staged... same with a couple other people there, but my brain is SEed out between MR32 and this, so I am going to take a break for now

I am starting to wonder again why there was no kill N2 now that I have more time for SE. I can see one of 3 possibilities: Itiah just didn't convert anyone N1 - I think this would have been a big mistake on Itiah's part, as converting N1 is, I think possibly the most important thing for the Seer to do... Also if they didn't convert N1,that means they only would have had 3 beads... Which seems rather small. I think this very unlikely. Itiah converted an inactive N1 - This is... Possible... Choosing someone that hadn't posted yet is dangerous, as there is a very real chance that they would be inactive. Possible, but unlikely I think Itiah converted someone with a role N1, and this role's action was worth more to them than the kill action - Possible, but out of the 8 roles the seer could have hit, Roleless and Thug don't have actions, A lurcher wouldn't value a protect over a kill, a Tineye wouldn't be too useful N2, coinshot is right out. That leaves a Soother, Rioter, or Seeker for the conversion N1. Something interesting when comparing D2 lynch with D3 lynch, is that D2, there was vote manip and no kill, D3 there was no vote manip and a kill. Right now, I am leaning towards a soother being N1 convert, then used their action D2 on the Walin lynch not realizing they only get 1 action/cycle...

I think it likely that an elim!Fura or elim!Gancho would vote on Itiah again. The suspicion on Itiah was already there, and with us voting on Itiah before, the bus is set up quite well. Early game there was already an agreement to lynch anyone that survived a lynch. Going against that could be seen as suspicious. However, the elims are down a player due to the lynch D3. So preserving another player that can make kill actions and vote is also something they want to do. So elim!CadCom still could have been hoping to swing the lynch onto Maill. I dont think Maill and CadCom can both be elims. If one is found to be elim, I am clearing the other. Only 1 person of: Gancho, CadCom, Fura; can be an elim. If one is found to be an elim, the other 2 are cleared.

I have an idea about these lunches... Keep in mind, of the three that voted for Itiah D3 (Gancho, CadCom, Fura), one of those players could have been converted N3. In fact, they likely had a bead N3, and converting one of the people already pushing for the seer lynch would be quite effective bussing. Not being a kill on N2 may have been because the converted player had a role they valued more than the kill... like the seeker. Until I personally learn who the seeker is, I will be taking what they say with a grain of salt.

Dont forget Sanderson has spaceships, bombers and stuff now... Can we also count planeswalkers? Sanderson has MTG planeswalkers now. In MTG lore, I think some of them have power that could rival a shard...

I actually trust snipexe after that. I have been posting a bit of analysis in PMs, and will share the analysis D5 if I am alive. If I am dead, those players will share the analysis for me. It will try to address several things such as this.

Umm, Actually, I kind of want to switch my guild to the "Tantalizing Underwater Baritone Arrangements" now... Taking a lot of self restraint...

... Yeah! You are referring to the brass guild right?

Oh my... this is great! We hit them twice, and took away 1 bead... So we should have 3 elims or 2 elims and 1 coinshot. But as the coinshot is likely inactive, I doubt ITIAH targeted them. So 3 elims... and people can't be converted anymore, so we can actually clear people now... Ninjad Alv