marianmi

I think Honor and Cultivation together reshaped Roshar. * Honor created humans * Cultivation created the habitat (maybe Shinovar) So both of them were equally invested in Roshar, but in a different way. Odium already got rid of Honor (humans broke their oaths). Next up, destroy Cultivation. The everstorm, which did not exist before, we've seen how destructive it is for the environment, with plateaus being ripped apart. This looks to me like a direct attack on Cultivation. Odium is taking advantage of the fact that Cultivation gave up.

* Sadeas's death allows the King to name another Highprice (I can't remember Sadeas having an heir), who can get the soldiers in line. Your army is as strong as your weakest link. Just for this, there is a huge benefit from his death. * I hope Renarin can "see the truth" () and comfort Adolin, otherwise he will start being hesitant * WoB is that Adolin's actions would have been in line with, for example, dustbringers. Unfortunately, because of this WoB, I don't think the will become a dustbringer (unfortunately). But I do hope I mean, people in Bridge 4 start infusing, clearly there will be a "surge in surgebinders" ()

* people bonded to spren have a strong shadesmar connection, Jasnah picking up Kaladin in Shadesmar may result in him looking straight back at her with Syl saying "Wassap?" * also, soulcasting is a bit slow, if you consider stormlight-enhanced super-speed and all * on top of that, I'm not sure you can soulcast invested objects. so just holding stormlight may make you immune.

We know that the windrunners were already engaged when *something* happened, so if the radiants were tricked somehow into something, the Windrunners, being on the front lines, would have been the first to react - so they would have been the first to abandon their shards. Maybe.

But how did they know Shallan was a surgebinder? Mr. T saw her almost die from simple poison. Nothing a bit of stormlight would not be able to heal. I guess this is also a good question - can stormlight heal poison? if so, why was Jasnah constantly soulcasting her food? Not to be seen glowing, or she does not know about stormlight healing?

Then how any of them survived? Or you think they all died then, then others were formed out of Honor splintering? * What happened at the recreance to the radiants that were of lesser levels? Maybe Syl was bonded then, but smaller level, and she was not "locked"? (another proof that Syl was bonded before is that her first transformation was in Shardblade, I guess, a "familiar" form) * I wonder how much control spren have in their transformations ... can they be forced into a shape, then left in that shape? * Re-reading chapter 52 TwoK - there were others waiting for those radiants - their squires? Also, "They were the first, and they were also the last" - what does that mean? Windrunners and stonewards were the first to emerge as radiants with oaths, and were the last to leave their shards? Or something else?

Adolin, impulsive?? Noooo, what a shocker!

This raises the question - how was she unbonded? Did her radiant die? And how long spren take before moving on to another bond?

Right, the Almighty was surprised about the Radiants, not surgebinders. My bad. Indeed, it's not clear when surgebinders appeared. On the other hand, it's interesting how the spren organized themselves, not binding random people anymore, but only those that speak oaths. I'm assuming there were no oaths for surgebinders => their spren did not "die" when a surgebinder would be nasty. Well, almost all bonded spren died at the Recereance. We've seen in the vision the Windrunners all dropping the shardblades. So how did she survived then? The only explanation is that - she was not bonded then, maybe her radiant was dead; or she "helped kill men before" in some other way, not as a shardblade.

As Syl, Pattern, Ivory etc are intelligent spren, that can talk into their bonded's mind, so we can assume the voidspren are intelligent, and their mind/intent ... merges ... with the parshendi ... or replaces a piece of the parshendi mind. Shardblades spren had their "consciousness ripped" and now they scream in agony - similarly, parshendi had a part of their mind "ripped" (the one with happy, peaceful thoughts), and now that part screams in agony.

OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS, STORMDADDY.

I am tired of responding to this - HOW WAS SYL BOUND? She never was. (sorry for double post)

There were Desolation before any surgebinders existed. Heralds would come and teach people how to use bronze. So what you are saying is ver very unlikely.

We have NOTHING on Vev, Battar and Chach. Not even wild theories. There were even some about Ishar (as being the drunk guy most ppl think Jezrien is), Palah in the Palaneum, Kalak the guy with Nalan, but ZERO about Vev, Battar and Chach.

Syl was not bonded before. Highstorms don't carry voidspren (like they do windspren for example). Eshonai had hers from Venli, and it's not clear how it was ... collected. Thus, I expect the everstorm to be a way to disseminate voidspren, and maybe more than 1 type of it. Parshendi that are caught in should be toasted. I think this one is a complicated. Eshonai hears herself screaming when attuning Peace. This is awfully similar to the shardblades - spren that had "their consciousness ripped". I believe this is what happened here as well - a part of her mind was ripped away - and maybe replaced by something else. We have intelligent, thinking, talking spren like Syl - maybe voidspren are the same, and replace some part of a parshendi's mind.

Well, I think there is a pool of people that can be radiants. Syl could have found Dalinar before Kaladin, I don't think Dalinar would have been off her charts. And it looks to me in the old times, there was a good dialog between men and spren. Elsecallers could bring someone with them in Shadesmar. So is really possible people would go Urithiru, train, and have "sessions" in Shadesmar where they would go and meet spren. What Pattern, Syl, Ivory and maybe Ym's spren did is exceptional, not the norm. Syl basically run away in the physical with no target in mind, and floated mindless until being attracted to Kaladin, Ivory observed Jasnah and then bounded against the wishes of the other spren, Pattern I think was part of an "experiment" of the liespren, in which he offered even if it meant possible death. Wyndle's bond was more of the "usual" way, where a human was chosen beforehand, and Wyndle was "sent" as opposed to "run away". Hence, he went with the support of the rulers? of his ... "city" - a council called The Ring. I would say then that Bondshmiths are not "gatekeepers" of the bonds, but rather radiants bonded to important spren, who can clearly influence other spren in Shadesmar. For example, bonded to Stormfather, Dalinar may think of someone worthy and can talk to the Stormfather and convince him to send an honorspren for that guy. But there are limits, as we've seen spren are pretty independent and have complicated politics and different form of organization - honorspren presumably ruled by the Stormfather, cultivationspren ruled by a council, highspren are probably more "modern", maybe an elected highspren ...

Nobody is bound to the honorblades. There are no bonds there. I think the stone shamans are "keepers of the past", kind of. They "have the truth", and know stuff people have forgotten. This truth is about the Desolations, and how the heralds won the Last Desolation, and maybe even about the Recreance. When Szeth, a respected scholar, come up with the theory that actually that was not the Last Desolation, and Voidbringers are coming back - probably saw the same signs as the spren - the stone shamans rebutted him, based on the whisperings and promises of their sacred stone (they might have a speaking stone thing, maybe or not connected to Taln in some way). Thus, they declared him "truthless" (as in not accepting the truth that voidbringers are destroyed forever), and sent him away with an honorblade, bound as a warrior to a stone. I am eager to see the reasoning behind that decision (giving him an honorblade). Maybe he was given the blade before (so maybe there was a council of 8 shamans, each carrying a honorblade, and Szeth was one of them?)... we'll have to wait for the next book for these details. I am not sure they have a Truthwatcher... I don't think the wearer of a blade gets all the benefits of a surgebinder - e.g. the lightweaver blade won't give Memory, but just the Illumination and Soulcasting. Also, keep in mind stormlight is rare in Shinovar, and honorblades need a lot of it - so I don't think they are really that well trained. Initially, Szeth almost lost to Gavilar. Now, he can go through many shardbearers without a sweat.

There are several threads about that I do think he will get worse, each of the radiants were in tight spots. Then the awesomeness happens About Moash, I'm certain he still has a big role to play, and he will end up uniting Dalinar's faction with Taravangian's...

I think this one was the best

You are so totally wrong about Wit's agenda

Maybe there is a reference to something common in all the Cosmere - Hemalurgy...

Because she says she hears *herself* screaming.

I think Kalak is a good bet. Mraize or his babsk (the masked woman) might be a herald? Easier than a worldhopper, and there's too many of them already. - Mraize can only be Ishi (Kalak having better chances of being the guy with Nalan), but this looks highly improbable from his personality. - Masked woman (since she would look too much like the statues?) - Vev? From the heralds, there are many theories about the male ones, females only Shallash and maybe Palah in the Palaneum - Vev, Betab, Chach are completely unaccounted. From the guys, Ishi is missing, but I am expecting him to be the most mysterious, being the Bondsmith herald and taking part in creating the radiants.

Is there any recognisable glyph in any of the herald blades / radiant order sign?

We know parshendi are more in Shadesmar than humans - they can hear the rhythms, they even consider themselves some kind of relatives to spren. It's even more interesting then that Eshonai the Voidbringer hears (her) SCREAMS when attuning the rhythm of peace. This is very similar to how radiants hear the old shardblade spren SCREAMING when touching the blades. Thus, basically, Parshendi voidbringers are as dead as the old radiants spren. Since we know one can be "resurrected", it means the other also can, in a similar way. Currently, their ... "consciousness" ... have been ripped away, probably just from the physical. Attuning to peace effect = being a radiant, having a nahel bond with spren effect ... Let's find some similarities here, I think this have the potential to spring some good theories on how the shardblades can be "reawaken". On a lighter tone - if Kaladin does end up with Syl, we now know their kid is gonna be a Parshendi