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Huh? Source? Didn't Brandon said that Radiant's can't do it on that scale? Not really, dozens of meters in radius is enough to cause serious destruction even if it explodes in the atmosphere. The Chelyabinsk meteor had 20 meters of diameter, 12000 kg and exploded with a yield of 500 kt. And they still found a 650 kg remaining piece of it on the ground and a few smaller ones. Kaladin in OB during the Kholinar siege deflected a rock several meters in diameter, he did it with multiple lashings, and still had a lot of Stormlight left. Windrunner can just do it with one lashing so it is possible, but what would be the radius he could bring down is unknown. On the topic, I think that Elsecaller would have the best chances, as he would just go to CR and start to soulcast everything he can, even Radiant if he had enough light (hard but possible). So air to stone, ground to water, to trap Radiants and soulcast water to stone etc. Elsecaller in CR would be almost untouchable (unless Shardblade manifests itself in CR as well and is able to cut someone who is there by sheer luck). Skybreaker and Dustbringer would also do great with division, mostly nullifying any soulcasting Elsecaller can do. But they can't really touch someone in CR. Lightweaver while he can soulcast, he can't fully go into CR like Elsecaller. Illusions would be handy however. Edgedancer can be very fast but with other powers he would have to deal with he fell a bit short. And while WIndrunner is great, I think Skybreaker would be better with Division. Truthwather do illusions, visions and healing, so far away from fighting powers. Stonewards could probably do good, but there isn't much information about them, Willshapers maybe as well, they can travel to CR and easily change positions during fights.

It's about mind and how it thinks. Emotional allomancy changes the way mind thinks and allows an Allomancer to take control. While manipulating connection can control hemalurgic construcs, emotional allomancy doesn't do that.

Vin tried to do it in HoA ch 67 but even with duralumin she couldn't do it - but that was because of Ruin. But regular emotional push would be too little to take control, you would need duralumin, and no Inquisitor had it. Or have multiple Inquisitors to do it. But half of them were in Luthadel, right under TLR, so it would be very unlikely to gather such opposition right under his nose. Remember Vin/Elend were able to control individual Koloss with regular emotional allomancy because they first ignite extreme emotions of fear and anger in them by simply fighting and killing them. Inquisitors have much greater mental capacity and are in control of their mind and emotions, so they could easily resist that.

You missed my point entirely. Feruchemist stores attributes in metalmind by converting physical things like strength into kinetic investiture, which later becomes static in metalminds. The problem is, there is nothing for nicrosil to boost. Feruchemist converts for example 50% of his strength in any given second into kinetic investiture that flows into metalmind. Rest of his strength isn’t investiture, it’s just strength, matter, physical things. It shouldn’t be affected by nicrosil. There isn't really any way to make storing process faster, as you're limited by your attributes, nor greater, as again, your attributes aren't investiture. Innate is separate from static. It's an additional part of a soul given to you from birth, like Breaths or Preservation's fragments in Scadrians. People in every shard world have that, but they mostly can't use it. Only Naltians can as far as we know. But innate is always part of a soul. It might be a way to get all your stored attributes without diminishing returns that makes you lost most of it. At least in this case metalmind stores investiture, even if static, so it might just pull all of it without feruchemist intent to do so, or if feruchemist wants to tap everything at once, nicrosil will pull it without losing it to diminishing returns. You for sure can use nicrosil or chromium when storing a metalmind, but what effect it would have is debatable, it doens't have to do much.

I think they most likely wanted to bind him to prevent further damage. But that's a good question. No because part of Ruin's power was locked away as Atium on the planet, and more importantly Ruin's mind (not power) was locked away. Ruin couldn't act, but he did slowly damage Preservation until Leres died. And to add to this, all of their powers were already used to oppose one another. We don't but given the example of both Preservation and Honor, it can take even thousands of years. I don't agree with this. WoBs and books say clearly that Preservation imprisoned Ruin with intent of keeping him forever from destroying Scadrial. I should have said direct influence. Odium is very limited in that regard. Subtle influence would work like Ruin was doing it - he was bound and restricted but still managed to slip past some words and ideas. The same would be with Odium, without Desolation he is mostly limited, but even with it, he can’t do anything he wants, not just kill or hurt, but because Honor and Cultivation most likely both oppose his action or there was a deal that he had to follow. It’s not just about hurting people, we haven’t seen any Shard directly killing someone. Maybe there are rules that forbid Shards from doing so, or maybe they just don't have to, don't want to or don't care.

WoBs are suggesting something different: And apparently the agreement/rules Shards made, while it wasn't an oath, was still important and binding to some degree, as Odium used is as justification for splintering Dominion and Devotion And he also had some kind of help from Autonomy that might help him face against 2 Shards: So while Odium was attacking 2 Shards is dangerous, he had some kind of advantage over them: And settling on a system is very different from attacking a Shard. When attacking a Shard you throw your power against him, so it doesn't matter that he didn't agree to let you visit his planet, you are still punching him. Settling on the other hand is not an aggressive action. You're going into the place where other Shards are using their powers, it's nice to ask if you can join them, otherwise they can use their power against you, using the same justification that Odium used to splinter Aona and Skai.

Why would Vin attacking Ruin be recognised as breaking of a deal? This is not supported by anything, it's contradicted by books, WoB's and Annotations. What deal was there that was preventing Preservation from attacking Ruin? The thing that was preventing it was Preservation's Intent, equal powers that both had, and inexperienced in using that power to kill a Shard. The only deals there were between Preservation and Ruin was first one about settling together on Scadrial, and second one, more important one, creating Scadrial and allowing Ruin to destroy it. Preservation however broke the deal, didn't allow him to destroy the planet and imprisoned him. That caused Preservation to slowly diminish. The thing preventing Odium from striking Hoid is the deal that Shards made after Shattering - most likely. Odium however settled on Roshar, and Honor and Cultivation allowed him to, which most likely binded him in a way. And then there was Oathpact that might influence him as well. I don't think it's specifically to prevent him from harming, it's to prevent him from influencing anyone on Roshar. Odium isn't able to talk to people on Roshar unless they are in Everstorm, or they have a very strong connection with him. I would argue this is the Honor's restriction you're talking about, they are generally to prevent him from acting at all. Hoid is a separate case, as he is binded by different rules. Yes, Taravangian is another different example, he made a deal to work for Odium, and if he betrayed him, this would put him "in Odium's power" or "exposed to Odium's attack". He didn't. Dalinar never confirmed that Hoid drafted the contract, so all Odium had were speculations. Hoid might have beed involved in making it, but depending on the level of involvement, it might prevent Odium from acknowledging that Hoid is breaking agreements.

The outcome might get resolved by the end of the book, or they manage to postpone it to 10 years - this would be a good thing. Whatever it will be, it will change the dynamics of Roshar and create new rules of conflict. It would be a good change for us readers, as the second half of SA would be very different from the first half.

Tbf I don't even know what it means. Feruchemist during filling convert some attribute (not all) into investiture, so I don't think nicrobursting someone when filling a metalmind would devoid him of that attribute because it's not investiture yet. It can have no effect on Feruchemist during filling, because Feruchemist is limited by the time. It could work like you said as well, but I don't see it working that way.

Harmonium can react even with water vapor in the air, as it was proven during Wax's experiment. And there was also the problem of the ship - it was immobilized and was stuck on the heading straight into Elendel. The ship would strike the docks at high speed, or run ashore, its hull would get breached, allowing water to flood the lower decks, or even sink the ship entirely, causing the Harmonium-water reaction to occur in the city, which would be devastating. Ship had to be sunk far away from the city, and there was no way to change its heading. Wayne didn't have a choice.

I have to agree with @Frustration and @Elder on this one. I understand what are you saying @bmcclure7 and to some degree you are right, but Shards aren't Abrahamic Gods, they aren't Omnipotent or Omniscient (hard maybe on Omnipresent - their power is present across the Cosmere, but they can't access it). Intent however is an integral, inseparable and essential part of a Shard, you can't have a Shard without an Intent. And a Shard must have a Vessel, a mind to control it and function at all. There is no infinite mind that could grasp the full potential of a Shard. So while the power (investiture) is infinite, Shards can never fully achieve that, because there is no mind that could do it. That's why they can't be Omnipotent, and Harmony proves they are not Omniscient, because Harmony in SoS didn't even know what Trellium is, nor did he know in BoM what is attacking Scadrial, nor does he know where Invention is, and Ruin in Era 1 didn't know where the part of him, Atium, even was. But Shards don't have to be Abrahamic Gods to be worshiped in the Cosmere as gods. Not every god needs to be omnipotent. But they are not The Gods.

What gives you the idea that SA5 ends with the contest of champions? I completely disagree. That's what the characters in the book are thinking, but we know Todium has a plan. Contest would most likely be the end of part 1 or 2 of the book, later the book will be dealing with consequences of the duel. I suspect Adolin&co. will return to the very messy world, or will be able to return just before a duel somehow (on Honorspren's ships maybe) if Shallan didn't choose to go after BAM immediately, as she is most likely hidden somewhere in the CR.

The comet-like spren is a Willshaper's spren, I think others above already explain it well. There is no point in refusing to accept this. Was there even a need to make that case? I've already thought that Starsprens, alongside Gravitationspren, were the most commonly named candidate for Skybreaker's plate spren. The fact that the order is named SKYbreakers, Highsprens looks like a crack in the air with stars behind it. Starsprens are visually and thematically the most fitting candidate for Skybreaker's plate spren, so I would even say they are the obvious candidate . And they are not that rare, they are visible every single night on the sky: And even if so, rarity is not an excuse, Jasnah's plate is made out of a rare type of spren, Logicspren.

What did Shallan do that could be against Radiant's or Dalinar's cause? Most of the things she did were also requested by Dalinar. Like discovering Urithiru, explaining the weirdness in the Tower and banishing the Unmade from it. Bringing Sons of Honor and Ialai down. And in the end she refused to kill Kelek. Jasnah would most likely be proud of her (but also angry for lying) that she managed not only to use Ghostbloods but also deceive them for so long and in the end and threaten their business - kind of like Jasnah's experiment in Kharbranth with thugs in the alleyway, sometimes you have to take unmoral risk to do a good thing.

I don't think Preservation used any loophole, he just straight up broke the agreement. Can you provide the source for that? I remember Odium saying only that he can't break the contract he was making with Dalinar because that would leave him exposed. And Hoid is violating agreements he makes, Odium doesn't like him, so that might be the reason why Odium would destroy him. And I think interpretation of oaths by Shard does matter:

You have unlimited electricity, you can make lasers, which are photon emitters. Electrons and positrons are matter and antimatter. They are fundamental particles, they are matter. I know what you want to say, that electricity won't make lasers or something. A just simply provided a cool fact to ease the tension.

I like to join here, you can - "The Breit–Wheeler process or Breit–Wheeler pair production is a proposed physical process in which a positron–electron pair is created from the collision of two photons." You are both going nowhere with this discussion.

No, that WoB just tells you that we don't know if hemalurgy can't give Allomancy with a steel spike with some tweaks. Your point is based on speculation. It's the Blessings that make Kandra a Kandra. So I think that using Kandra's Blessing to add to it another hemalurgic charge containing powers might give powers to Kandra (it's possible to have a spike with multiple powers granting all those powers). But we don’t even know how Kandra’s Blessings are made. So this is pure speculation on my side.

Hemalurgy can grant kandra allomancy but the process is unknown. This excludes Trellium, because this WoB is before SoS was released, and Harmony didn't know about Trellium yet.

Oathpact in its original form can't be done anymore - Fused don't return to Braize after being killed, they return via Everstorm without Odium’s involvement. Fused souls can no longer be stopped from Returning. Even Odium said this when making a contract with Dalinar. So the Oathpact will be just useless. If the new Oathpact would bind just Odium to not intervene on Roshar, then there are still thousands of Fused that can rage a war, many of whom think humanity must be destroyed. So this also won't help that much. Now Taravangian. Brandon specifically said that he decided to switch Rayse for Taravangian because Rayse has lost so many times already, that he ceased to be a serious threat. If the very first thing Taravangian does is to lose again, then switching Odium would be pointless. Taravangian must win, or at least achieve some pyrrhic victory. That's why I think that Taravangian will win the contest of champions or at least trick Dalinar into breaking it, Odium will get freed from Roshar or at least will be able to send agents into Cosmere, but his action will lead to destruction of Kharbrant, which will violate Odium's deal with Taravangian, wounding Odium and exposing him to blows from Shards. Because of that Odium will have to lay low for a time being, and that's why we have a time skip.

There is also an even grimmer possibility. Since AoL more than 6 years have passed. They kidnap a lot of women for their breeding program, one of them might have a lucky child who became a duralumin misting. So they spiked a child.

I think it will improve. If you store 50% of your strength, and you have let's say 20 strength in total, so you are left with 10 strength. After a year of working out you gain 2 strength, but because you are storing 50% of your strength, your new total is 22 strength, and you're now storing 11 of it. Half of any strength you're gaining will be stored in metalminds, because your new maximum strength has increased. Does it make sense? So if that's how muscles grow, storing strength will to some degree help develop them. not really without compounding

I don't know anything about the main character being a feruchemist, but I know that the main character will be a nicrosil Misting from Terris, and her brother will be the other one, so there still will be Allomancy. While Allomancy is on decline it doesn't mean it will vanish, just that becoming a Mistborn is very unlikely because of gene dilution. There will also be a few cool Twinborns, and Allomancer SWAT teams. So Allomancy won't disappear in era 3. WoBs:

@Mistchemist16 I've found the WoB confirming that you can Awaken as soon as you get Breaths:

Probably? Power of a Shard seeks a vessel, a mind to control it. A sentient object has a mind so maybe it could become a vessel. And this one is more important: Awakened sentient object is like a spren, it's made out of shard's investiture, and it has a mind. So that object would just grow and grow until it becomes the Shard. Question is now, can an object become a vessel, or because it was already made purely out of Shard's investiture, would it just be vesselless Shard? Here is a WoB that answers this question: And more WoB. Awakened object is like robot spren, so a robot splinter, but puting splinters together don't create/restore a Vessel: I think, because investiture resists investiture, Shard's investiture would overcome the Command of the object. RoW spoiler