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I don't understand how Wit could have and use perfect pitch all the time, then lose it and not immediately realize something is extremely wrong. Is there an explanation about this somewhere I'm not aware of? It would seem if Wit is walking around with enough Breathes to have perfect pitch then all of a sudden doesn't have enough he would think something had gone wrong, and if he's as intelligent as he seems since he had just talked to Odium it wouldn't take a big stretch of reasoning to understand Odium had done something to him.

Sorry I don't mean to offend, I do feel like that word fits Kaladin in relation to Moash, maybe not overall, he's struggled through a lot of hard situations and shown he is resilient. However so have many others in the series, through things that are worse than losing a brother, like losing your husband and then thinking you lost your daughter then actually losing your son like Navani did. Or Jasnah. Either of them has suffered in horrifying ways, but they push on and grow stronger, face their enemies and do what needs to be done. I'm not big on trying weigh people's pain against others in general, I think everyone suffers in ways other people can't understand from the rich to the poor, from those with loving families to those with none at all, but even Dalinar has pushed through more than Kaladin. He found out he was one of the world's greatest mass murderers, who burned his wife alive, and is a total rock of leadership now. Maybe Kaladin just has more growing to do, but when I think of his arc, the tragedies he has suffered, and those of others.. like I said I don't mean to offend I just think of everyone else a lot in books, not just the main characters but the consequences for those around them.

I think it's problematic for a bodyguard and someone who is sworn to protect to be able to be disabled from defending others simply through not attacking him personally. The way Kaladin acts someone could kill whoever he is guarding at any given time then throw down their weapons and run away, at the most Kaladin would chase and try to apprehend them, and he wouldn't use deadly force to do so. How many more people Kaladin cares about does Moash have to kill before executing him on the spot is morally obligatory, not just justifiable? Does it need to be Kaladin's little brother? If Moash murders him in front of Kaladin's eyes and then throws his sword down again and turns his back does Kaladin just stand there in horror? At this point I'm led to believe that he would indeed just stand there and do nothing. This is why I don't think Kaladin is suited to leading a military force. He should go off and do things on his own with his family and friends, whatever, but he should not lead the Windrunners, IMO. Any other Windrunner in Kaladin's situation in Hearthstone would have struck Moash down if possible, defending himself or not, and been perfectly justified in doing it. Imagine if it was Teft, he would have gutted Moash like a fish and it would have been justice served. Instead Teft, and his tottally innocent spren is dead, destroyed forever. I understand Kaladin has this issue with PTSD, with freezing when he gets in a situation where he knows he can't protect everyone, which is why he absolutely shouldn't be leading one of the world's most important military forces. I know he's "taking a break" or whatever from duty, but when he comes back I would prefer he's not in charge of the Order anymore.

My view of it is this. If I knew that Kaladin let Elhokar be murdered, standing there doing nothing about it, I would not trust Gavinor's safety to the man. His duty was to protect the King on the trip, and he did nothing. He's proven time and time again in serious situations he will freeze up. It would be ludicrous to assume all the other Windrunners have his mental issue. Even if they aren't all as good of fighters at least they will actually have the mental capacity to do their job. If I was Dalinar I wouldn't trust him to bodyguard anyone. There's no telling when he will totally lose control of himself and be of no use to anyone. Even after swearing the fourth ideal at the end of RoW I expect he will continue this trajectory of letting good, and innocent people die because he can't bring himself to be a grown up in war. He wants war to be his childhood fantasy of what war is, and Jasnah is more than right to mock his childish understanding of the world. Someone who understands war should lead the Windrunners. Kaladin has made it clear he doesn't get what's happening and doesn't take the stakes seriously enough. It's not Hugslight that was just discovered in RoW, it's Warlight. We don't need fancy duels in the sky for the thrill of the contest to win a war. If Kaladin can't understand that and grow up he shouldn't be in charge of the Windrunners ever again. I don't mean he should totally leave and not be a character in the story anymore, not at all, but he should not command one of the war's primary military units. He's not fit for that job, IMO. Making him "fit" for it somehow in the future seems a stretch to me without him coming to terms with the realities of war in a way that he's been entirely unwilling to accept through the series. I love the compassion of his character, but there's a difference between soaking in raw empathy at all times to the point of being frozen and compassion for even your enemy while still knowing you have to fight a real war. When Moash killed Teft and destroyed his spren, I gave up on Kaladin ever being able to do what he needed to to protect those important to him. He had a chance all the way back in Hearthstone to take Moash out. Murdering people and then throwing your sword on the ground doesn't make you a helpless victim. If all it takes for Kaladin to let people murder whoever they want is for them not to raise a weapon against him he's the most pathetic bodyguard ever to live. Basically the argument is Moash could chop Jasnah's head off right in front of Kaladin and then throw his sword on the ground and Kaladin would stand there like a statue going "derp oh noes it's my good friend of a single/couple years he's a psychopathic mass murderer but I just can't do anything he threw his sword down guys!". He's not a war leader, and he's not a bodyguard as he's already proven to have failed miserably at that job once, and not because he was outmatched in any way, because he has PTSD. I can understand why Kaladin is the way he is, but he shouldn't lead.

I get what you mean, but I wouldn't trust her again, ever. Can you point out some reasoning for why anyone who knows the truth about what she's done should trust her? She's risked (and sacrificed) many innocent people's lives for her games with the Ghostbloods, including in her first meeting with them, the carriage driver. I don't see how she can be a legitimate Radiant, unless she's bonded to a voidspren. She regularly sacrifices and manipulates unnamed, or even important characters to reach her goals, sometimes leading to their deaths. She never informs those who's lives she is risking that she is endangering them. What could Wit possibly say to Jasnah to convince her Shallan deserves to be trusted, in anything? Also, not just Jasnah, how can Wit explain to Navani that Shallan was enabling and helping to hide the Ghostbloods working inside the Tower, the people who tried to kill her daughter? If you are Navani would you really be ok with someone who worked with an organization who was out to murder your daughter. How was Shallan to know what she was doing wouldn't lead to Jasnah's death? She could have exposed Mraize in an instant, exposing the Ghostbloods leader in the tower and removing a giant threat to Jasnah's life. What did she do instead? Continued working with them, more and more so.

As with many my favorite character, as is intended for us guys at least I think by Brandon, was Kalladin. Love the arc of his story, it's a great thing in many ways redemption and recovering from being broken. However there are many good people who are dead, and likely many more good people are going to die, because Kalladin is "too noble" to kill certain people. I hate to even term it that way. It's not a real thing. I get it, Moash was his best friend in the bridges. The king, Teft, Teft's Spren, and Jezrien none of these people had to die, Kalladin could have protected them, but instead he continuously enables a mass murdering psychopath to go on killing more innocent people. Kalladin has protected a lot of people, done a lot of good things, but this block he has about doing what needs to be done is not realistic to me. He stood around watching someone murder a child's father while the father held the child in their arms, powerless because "but but no one deserves to die"... Sorry Moash does deserve to die. Moash didn't get screwed by anyone. He had a petty grudge and plotted to assassinate the king, then eventually murdered the king horrifically with his son in his arms, and all Kalladin can do is watch? Moash and Kalladin are both cowards, and it infuriates me that Teft is dead because Kalladin can't do what he needs to to protect the people who deserve it. "I will protect even those I hate, as long as it is right.... Unless I really liked that person at some point then I'll let them kill you, whoops sorry!"

Ok so this has been eating at me since my first time through the series. Now finishing up my 4th time through, and I feel like this needs to be addressed sometime soon in the story. Shallan has been lying to Jasnah, constantly, about a great many things even after Jasnah was clear with her that she would accept no more lies from her. Honestly if I'm Jasnah, and I find out Shallan was working with the Ghostbloods, I would want her out of the Tower, and I don't see any reasonable way around that. Shallan has proven she will lie and manipulate whoever she wants to do things "her" way because she things she's the only one who can address any of these problems. Her arrogance is just shocking to me. I absolutely do not see how Shallan is following the First Ideal, not even close. She sacrifices children and other beggers in her "brilliant" plan to infiltrate the Cult of Moments. Does she feel bad about it? Yeah, for about 5 minutes. Does she change her ways based on this realization? Of course not, she then goes on a trip to Lasting Integrity where she lies to every single person continuously, literally every living being she encounters she lies and manipulates for her scheme to help the Ghostbloods, which she has done plenty of already regardless of what lies she tells herself the organization isn't "rewarding" her for doing things they find useless. She's advancing the interests of people who tried to murder her and the person who has given her access to do Everything she has accomplished or gained. Jasnah is extremely intelligent and good and figuring out plots. It seems unlikely in my view that Shallan could continue to hide that she was working with the Ghostbloods from Jasnah, especially since Wit definitely knows she is, and Wit is in a relationship with Jasnah. When she does find out Shallan has been lying and manipulating her and everyone else to continue following the Ghostbloods orders (regardless of the ending of RoW) Jasnah should be furious, and should never trust her again.. She has proven she is not trustworthy, period. No rational person would look at the lies and manipulations Shallan has performed and say "well maybe they're an honest person now". I'll even grant that at the end of RoW maybe Shallan made some huge breakthrough. Maybe she will go straight to Jasnah and apologize and beg forgiveness. If I was Jasnah I would thank her for the apology then banish her immediately from Alethkar and the Tower and tell her she's unwelcome in her lands or those of Dalinar. If I was Navani and I found out Shallan was working with the people who tried (and very nearly did) murder my daughter, I would want her executed.