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Well to be fair Renarin didn't have any opportunity to earn his own title. He did nothing grand or meaningful yet. Others are also called by titles like that by other invested beings - Son of Honor, Son of Odium, Son of Tanavast etc. Sja-Anat could be following a similar naming convention. Can this be foreshadowing? The only thing I can think of now is that Dalinar will Ascend to Honor and Renarin's title Son of Thorns will be the same as Kaladin's Son of Tanavast - which is unique and has importance to it.
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It's time to end this. This is spiraling into a heated storm of misunderstanding, pointless comments and repetition. Most of my criticism for Navani starts after the discovery of Warlight. Up until this point Navani was perfectly dealing with the invasion and Raboniel. I have nothing bad to say about this. Navani was told by Raboniel that she wanted anti-light because it can kill/harm or give them power over Odium - RoW ch 76. Raboniel later admitted to lying to her in RoW 97: Navani should have either dismissed that possibility, as Raboniel lied to her countless times already, or thought of other reasons why Raboniel wanted anti-light so badly - then she would have realized the importance of this discovery and that this could kill spren. She failed here which is why she gave Fused this knowledge later. Navani should have done everything possible to prevent the knowledge of anti-tone and anti-light from falling into Raboniel's hands. Everything, that includes not trying to discover it under occupation and constant supervision. Instead of fervorously jumping into research without thinking, she should have thought a lot about the consequences of this discovery, and ways to prevent it from falling into Fused hands. Burn notes instead of washing herself, make just one single cut on anti-Odium tone plate which would ruin it, but still allow her to easily and quickly recreate it if needed. HIde her notes and let Fused search the room, wasting hours. She didn't do that. She didn't hide her notes when Raboniel requested them, but immediately gave them to her. She did nothing to prevent this discovery from falling into Fused hands because she was unaware of the danger it posed, because she didn't think about consequences of her actions - she was madly focused only on a way to make an anti-Odium tone. RoW ch 97: She made a great and brilliant scientific discovery. But she failed to prevent this knowledge from falling into Fused hands, which is a huge oversight. She failed to properly assess risks and failed to realize who big this discovery was, which is another huge oversight. It was partially because she wasn't experienced in working alone on a big project like that, she lacked proper Cosmere knowledge, she was played by Raboniel, and was blindly focused on discovering the secret, because she knew anti-light existed. And also partially because she wanted to prove herself as a scholar, RoW ch 84: Her plan to kill Raboniel was just bad. It relied on giving them the knowledge of anti-tones and anti-lights, which is the biggest flaw, and if successful it would only delay Sibling's unmaking (at best), while Navani would be stuck without any way to follow it or make and use anti-Voidlight. If Navani were able to keep the knowledge of anti-light secret, it would have given the Coalition immense advantage, and a real means to end the war and force Odium into the duel. It would take Fused months or years to recreate that process as they would have no idea how Navani managed to do that. Navani failed here. That's all from me. You all are free to disagree, that's fine, you can see those events differently.
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I can accept that division. I'm not talking about those actions. Yes, she clearly mistrusted Raboniel and tried to work against her. I'm talking about the time when Raboniel said she wanted to kill Odium and Navani blindly believed that. She gave it to Raboniel simply because Raboniel would have found it. "the one they'd named Rhythm of War" - My point was that Raboniel knew about the notebook, she knew it's in the room and she was involved in some way with it (don't remember now clearly but she calls the notebook "theirs" on multiple occasions). Navani was unable to completely hid the notebook from Raboniel, because she knew it was there. My problem is that she gave it to Raboniel, she didn't try to destroy it, conseal the knowledge of anti-light. That doesn't matter. She was able to madly jump into work to discover anti-light without thinking about any of those things, she should have thought first that if Raboniel claims that a god can be killed by it, then spren who are "tiny gods" or "pieces of gods" can be killed as well. Just thinking about the possibilities anti-light brings would lead her to this revelation. She should have thought about consequences of her great discovery, and consequences about letting Fused know about it. She literally just discovered the Light. It's not like she had days to think about it. She does not know that Fused are made You claimed that Navani knew Fused can be killed by anti-light before she discovered it, I proved you wrong: Because Odium is the commander, because Raboniel will return in a few days, and there are hundreds of other Fused ready to step in and assume control. Because Fused know of anti-light. No because Raboniel read her entire process, saw the plate, how it works and helped to make anti-light. It would take them at most a few days to replicate that, and Raboniel had dozens or more scientists to help. The Coalition would have no idea about anti-light, because Navani was the only one who knew and was trapped in the Tower. Sibling was barely present anymore and retreated. They would say anything about Navani as they didn't trust her anymore. Navani was alone. Did you really misunderstand me here? After she discovered the tone, before Raboniel visited her. The very first thing Navani should have done was to burn her notes after she created the plate. That's enough to prevent her from doing anything at all, which is my point. She didn't but you claimed they had no reasons to kill her. I proved you wrong: There are a lot of things Navani managed to do after the discovery of anti-tone (I specify it for you, I used anti-light to talk about both tone and light), she even washed - that's plenty of time to BURN HER NOTES! RoW ch 97 (please use ch, not pages): That's precisely my point. That's why she didn't hide her notes, that's why she should have burnt them. There was a guard hauling her along - that's enough to search for an opportunity to throw her notes behind boxes, and did it when that guard was distracted. She didn't even think of that. Please read that quote again, instead of pointlessly quoting it. She gives them to Raboniel in that quote. She hid nothing. How did Navani planned to free herself? She didn't. She had no idea what was going to happen on that day. If she didn't discover anti-light on that day, Raboniel wouldn't order Pursuer and Moash to destroy the last node and kill Kaladin, and the Tower would remain under occupation. Navani would make no anti-light in her prison cell. Navani had no idea that she would accidentally free the Tower. She made no plans for that. She was Fortunate it worked out like that, but was a single step away from total disaster. It was so close for Odium to have Kaladin, the Tower and anti-light, with Navani being killed, that it’s crazy. Yes, a few more days. Nothing would change. And yes, Navani could try, nothing would change. Brilliant plan. I'm not because she had never thought about any unforeseeable consequences of her discovery. She just thought "I know anti-light can be made, I'm gonna make it" and she made it. It's a great discovery for sure, but she failed to account for reality. Bad thing Odium overruled them all. And Raboniel could return in the old way, just like Pursuer did. There is also a way for Fused to communicate with souls on Braize - Raboniel could have sent them messages about discovery that way too. Not at all, leaving the plate with anti-tone like that in the open, working on it the next day, asking for more equipment drawing attention of Raboniel and giving her the notebook just like that definitely wasn't a gift for Fused. Yes we do, even Navani used to do that when she was worried in WoR that attractor Fabrial will drain their blood. Back then she was able to think about unforeseeable consequences under the pressure of battlefield conditions. Yes it is, I'm not denying this. I said "almost". And Navani swore 1 ideal, Dalinar 2, Dalinar was clearly more worthy than Navani, because Stormfather accepted those words.
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alder24 replied to not an Evil Librarian's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Countless Hazekillers, Skaa guards, Skaa soldiers, minor nobles like Renoux of unknown reputation etc. You can see the difference between Kel and Vin - he walked into Kredik Shaw killing any Skaa-guard on his path while Vin came, telling them to run away or join them, and one of them later saved Scadrial. Kelsier killed a lot of unknown people, many of them were Skaa, who were just trying to provide for their family in the best way they could. We have no idea if they deserve to die and you can't judge them like that. I will not say whether he did the right thing or not, but he kill a loooot of people, much more than Moash, many of whom were just Skaa fighting for survival just like he was. -
Those deserters decided to help against bandit attack, saving innocent people and Shallan, Adolin's fiance who just survived assassination of Jasnah and sinking of the ship. Then they protected her during the remaining journey and saved her again from Tyn's people. They've proven themself to Dalinar. Sadeas doesn't care about deserters that much, he's after bigger fish - Dalinar. He didn't care about lost bridgemen and Kaladin, who cost him his victory at the Tower, so why would he care about some nameless deserters? Plus they were now under the protection of Sebarial, who was seen as neutral in the conflict between Dalinar and Sadeas - why risk making a new enemy with a failed assassination attempt? Deserters and Sadeas men were separated by several camps, there was no opportunity for them to meet. Shallan also promised to take care of their debts, so I guess she paid off Gaz's debt. Even if not, he was in debt because of gambling, so they wouldn't be some powerful rich people risking conflict with Adolin. But this could be expanded a bit, you're right. It could be made into some cool scenes like you suggested. However the book was already massive, and Shallan was focused on so many things that making her solve the problems of her men (which she ignored for almost the entire book, and many of them left her because of that) would be simply too much. She already had to make hard decisions and sacrifices. I don't feel this plot is missing.
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It was Ascension to Preservation (partial at least), I don't think you could achieve that with simple nicrosil compounding.
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Duralumin fueled A pewter or fully tapped F pewter?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
If there is such a limit it has to be huge, as in TLM Wayne burned 17 pouches of bendalloy and it was done instantly. And WoBs say "it burns all metals at the same time": But still, the more metal you want to burn, the more duralumin you need as it's being burnt too. -
Just to be clear - it's fine that you disagree with me. It's your opinion and I respect that. I'm trying to explain my position and my problems with Navani's actions. She got played so easily by Raboniel, believed in her lies, and never considered the consequences of her actions. She had never thought about what anti-light really meant. Her plan was just bad. She was great in the first half of RoW, but then she jumped from the top of Urithiru straight into the bottom of the sea in my opinion. I see why she failed like she did, which I explained in the first post, but I've expected more from her, she should be able to do more than that. Her emotions took control over her, she tried to prove that she is a worthy scientist, but she did exactly the opposite. That's my opinion. It's fine that you have a different one and I'm glad you've enjoyed her in RoW. That's the point. She should have thought about why Raboniel wants it, thinking that Raboniel has a malicious intent. Rabioniel said she wants to kill Odium, how could Navani ever believe in that, even if Raboniel was partially honest? Raboniel knew no amount of anti-Voidlight would ever kill Odium, mortals can’t do that - Raboniel lied to Navani, and Navani fell for that obvious lie without questioning it. That was their notebook, they were writing notes together iirc, or at least Raboniel referred to it as their notebook. Navani hid no notes from Raboniel. And that’s my problem. The only thing Navani needed to do is to burn notes after the discovery of anti-light - if she understood implications of that discovery, but she didn't. You don't need to know that. Navani knew two things - Odium "can" be killed by anti-Voidlight, and spren are pieces of their gods. It's easy to make a hypothesis that Voidspren can be killed by anti-Voidlight, if they're pieces of Odium. She didn't know that until Raboniel actually killed her daughter in front of her. Navani was only told that it can kill Odium, not Fused. In my opinion her plan of killing Raboniel was really stupid, so everything she did to accomplish that was also stupid. She knew, RoW ch 76: Interrogate, and then punish if they found her guilty. She was the last person who spoke with Raboniel - many would be rightfully suspicious and I see no reason why they wouldn't at least lock her in a cell until Raboniel returns. That's the smart thing to do. They would - Raboniel read her notes, Navani handed them to her willingly. Raboniel knew and could recreate that, slower without notes but still she was able to do that. The only point you have is potential delay in Unmaking - but Navani was unable to contact anybody, as the Sibling not only was observed, but unwilling to speak to Navani. Navani had no way of communicating with Kaladin at all, and therefore all she would accomplish was a few day delay with no plan to use that situation to their advantage. Without those notes, there would be no anti-Light. If you ever tried to research something, you know you won't be able to make progress without making notes. Burn her notebook AFTER she discovered anti-light, to prevent the knowledge from falling into Fused hands... Of course she needed it before. Dalinar didn't make peace for 10 days - the war is still going on. He will fight and then they will have peace, no matter the outcome. That's future planning. Navani had no plans for what would happen after killing Raboniel. Nothing to follow. Yes, they don't know, that's why they would suspect Navani was somehow involved. After all, she was already caught red handed plotting against Raboniel and communicating with Kaladin through the Sibling. They knew she was working against them, and at the very least, they would lock her up in a cell, waiting for Raboniel's return. At worst, some crazy Fused would assume she did it and kill her or torture her. And how would she liberate the Tower with her theoretical work? Sure she could, but Raboniel already knows anti-light can be made and how to make it. It was too late to think about the consequences of her discovery. Because they knew it's the best way to hurt Dalinar, but Raboniel refused to do that. The only way Navani lived so long is because Raboniel protected her. Kill Raboniel, Navani is left without protection. Others wouldn't care about that and would just kill her using Raboniel's absence as an opportunity. Moash literally went to Raboniel to kill Navani - Odium ordered him to do that. RoW ch 102: My point is that Navani should do everything that is possible to deny them this knowledge. Everything. Not give them her notes to read while sipping tea on a comfy chair. Burn them, throw them behind boxes in the hallway instead of returning with them to Raboniel, and pretend they were destroyed in the explosion. Something other than what she did. The plan to kill Raboniel was still stupid but she did nothing to prevent them from quickly recreating that experiment. She didn't even try to hide her notes after taking them from Raboniel, she just gave them back to her. That was sooooo stupid. So no, she wasn't successful at hiding her notes at all - she gave them back immediately. Navani hid no notes from Raboniel, they were working on them together, Raboniel knew Navani was making notes, and knew she had them in this room. That's no success. She wouldn't be able to hide those notes. And she gave them to Raboniel, Raboniel knew how to make anti-light, they made it together. She can't make more, Fused wouldn't allow her to have any equipment, especially the same one that was involved in Raboniel's death. Raboniel can make it, not Navani. Not really, they knew where the last node is for a some time, Raboniel delayed them to manipulate Navani. They wouldn't be able to counteract Unmaking. The Manhattan project was the exact opposite. They thought about the possibility of igniting the atmosphere, they calculated the safety factor to be 5000, which meant that it was practically impossible for them to ignite the atmosphere - and that's the conclusion they've reached. They did their homework. Navani did nothing like that. She didn't think about any consequences of anti-light discovery, nor for what it could be used for. She just made it just as Raboniel wanted. Anti-light safety factor is 0 because they've used it to kill spren. Navani failed. Raboniel would know. That's why that plan was stupid. She fully trusted Raboniel's words that it could kill Odium, instead of looking for hidden reasons. Raboniel would know.... And that's why they would imprison her because Navani would be suspected of being involved in that accident (as she conveniently left the room just right before the explosion) and was already caught conspiring against them. That's enough reasons to torture her if I were unstable Fuesed. "Oh look - she left the room just before the explosion with a book, better let her go and don't question her or look into that book..." The first thing they would do is capture her, take that book from her, decipher it and question Navani. She had no way of hiding her discovery even if she was successful in killing Raboniel. Because I agree with that. She had finally thought about the consequences of her discovery and realized what a terrible mistake she had made. Inferiority complex or not, giving anti-light to Fused was a disastrous mistake. Up until this point she didn't do any serious scientific work on her own, she always had a team of people to which she gave an idea and they worked on all problems with that. She didn't know how to do a project like that, and how to assess risk and predict consequences. She had failed because of lack of knowledge and experience with scientific work. She clearly learnt from her mistakes by the end, that’s good, that's character development. For that she deserved credits. But she fully deserves condemnation for giving up the secret of anti-light directly into Fused hands. She failed. She had a plan, it was a very bad plan. What? No way. Navani almost bullied the Sibling into the bond. She still has to prove herself to the Sibling by changing the way she treats spren and fabrials, then she will be worthy.
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Except for Jasnah's words, that's mostly speculation based on that. And I've found this WoB: That's what I was saying. Heralds' souls are recognisable.
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I didn't say you need to look closely - their souls are brighter than human souls brighter than Radiant souls, but in the sea of tens of thousands of souls, you won't see them. They aren't a lighthouse blinding you with light. So yes, both statements can be true at the same time. Compare those 3 souls alone and you will see the difference.
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Ok, true, my mistake, but they still were focused on getting out of Kholinar, not on looking out for Herald's soul. Because one brighter soul among hundreds of thousands would definitely be noticeable. Right? I didn't suggest that it would glow like a lighthouse, only that it would be recognizable brighter than normal souls. They mostly had no idea what those lights meant, and had no idea that there was a Herald in Kholinar.
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Duralumin fueled A pewter or fully tapped F pewter?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I guess the wait time would be very short, and then they would be able to use thet. Nothing really inconvenient. But If they used too much strength, their muscles would grow too big and they would be unable to move, or maybe even something would break or be crushed in them, killing them. So use Feruchemical strength carefully. Metal doesn't have to be in the stomach. It has to be in the body - a metal spike could be burned. That significantly raises the amount of metal you can use for a duralumin powered burst. But still, there is a limit. Huh, I wonder if iron can be stored in a Bendalloymind - nutrition, calories and fluids can be stored, and metals like iron are important for your body - if you could isolate them and store a crap ton of them in Bendalloymind, then you wouldn't need any vials anymore. -
Would silver swords be redundant if you had a shardblade?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
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Duralumin fueled A pewter or fully tapped F pewter?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
F-pewter - if you stored for 10 years all you could, you would have a massive amount of strength. A-pewter with duralumin - if you swallow 10 kg of pewter, you would have a massive amount of strength when burned with duralumin. It all depends on how much metal and attribute we're talking about. -
Would silver swords be redundant if you had a shardblade?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Possibly, based on how well silver works on Aethers. But there was a lot of Unmade there, the silver on weapons would run out before Unmade would be killed. Shades just bounce off the silver dust, I think it needs to be pointy. It would do some damage for sure. The oil would drip down from your blade and with it silver dust. And remember, silver is used up in contact with investiture, the more invested entity you're facing, the more silver you need. -
Maybe if they weren't so distracted by wanting to get the hell out of there as fast as possible to avoid Unmade below the Oathgate, walking on the bottom of the sea of bead, they might have taken the tour through Kholinar's Shadesmar, amongst hundreds of thousands other souls and hundreds of Fused, they might have spotted a needle in the haystack, named Jezrien.
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It was naive to think that Raboniel will leave the tower (or whatever she'd promised her) after they merged lights. It was naive to think that what Raboniel wants her to make would be harmless to your side, and would be the key to liberation or even would kill a god. It was naive to think that she could hold secrets from Raboniel. She didn't make any real preparation to protect her discovery from falling into Fused hands. Few traps in a hallway isn't any kind of defense. I agree with reasons why Navani did it, as I've said basically the same thing in my first post, but the trusting part was referring to trusting in her abilities to deceive Fused (I should be more clear with this one). With what? She did nothing which would stop them from learning about her discovery. The simplest thing was to destroy the plate she'd made, break the gem. That's why I said in the first post that she lacked basic knowledge of Cosmere. But this connection wouldn't be made through Fused, but through Odium - she believed that Odium can be killed via anti-light, she knew, or at least should have known, that spren are pieces of gods - if anti-light can kill a god, it can certainly kill a spren. That's the connection she should have made immediately. She didn't need her, she knew she succeeded because of how the Voidlight reacted to the sound. She knew it could be created because she held Gavilar's sphere with anti-Voidlight in it. She hoped to kill Raboniel with an accidental explosion, and then what? Hundreds of other Fused and Regals would be there to punish her, and discover what had happened. And Raboniel would simply Return during the next Everstorm. That was her whole plan? Making a weapon and literally announcing to your enemies that you did it and giving them your notes, plates and everything on a silver plate? That's the plan? To make them know? She did great. RoW ch 97: Burning notes sounds like a really good, yet simple idea, don't you agree? For a few days... And then what? Because there are no other Fused and Regals in the Tower that would immediately interrogate her to know what had happened. Because they wouldn't refuse Navani everything she would need to create more anti-light with an excuse that "they will wait for Raboniel's Return", or worse, Pursuer or Moash would assume control over the Tower and simply kill her as they weren't that lenient toward her as Raboniel. Because she didn't hand over all of her notes before Raboniel attempted to merge lights. Not a great plan. Unless she demanded them first, which she did. And unless Navani took notes with her when leaving the room - which she did. But the explosion also could have taken the only piece of equipment needed to create anti-light - she wouldn't be able to create any more anti-light if the explosion was as powerful as she'd hoped. And then what? Fused would leave the Tower saying "we tried but our leader is dead"? Killing one person who would be back in a few days without any plan to follow it is pointless. Navani had no plan at all, she hadn't thought about the consequences of her discovery at all. There was no gamble because there was 0% chance for any favorable outcome. None. She made the discovery to announce to their enemies that anti-light exists and gave them all of the knowledge just like that. Even if she tied to hide or destroy her notes, but still tried to used anti-light to assassinate Raboniel, the very first thing Fused would do with her is to torture her untill she admits what she'd done - and Fused have 7000 years of experience in torturing people. She knows that, they would get that out of her. Using anti-light in such a way is a very, very stupid idea. RoW ch 102:
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I don't know what to think about it. I've never read any of Dan's books, so I can't judge how good of the writer he is. I'm a bit worried that his Cosmere books won't be as good as Brandon's books, that they would lack something important which I can't specify, but ultimately I will give him and Isaac a shot. I trust Brandon, and if he trusts them both, that's good for me - he knows Dan better than I ever could. I'm not worried about contradictions and retcons - there is a whole team in Dragonsteel that's responsible for making sure books are true to Cosmere, its timeline and its mechanics - that isn't something with which Brandon works alone. As far as I understand, both Dan and Isaac will be writing some side stories, nothing that big. Brandon will still work on his main books, and Brandon will still work and coauthor with them, and have a decisive world over their creation, so he could filter what is or isn't fit for Cosmere. They will work together on those books, not alone. I'm not worried that Cosmere will turn into some kind of big commercialized franchise, with a bunch of different authors writing in it - that won't happen, as they will write for and with Brandon, and Brandon will allow only the best of the best to join him, and only those he could find time to work with. Brandon is cautious about people he employs and certainly has very high standards for those writing in his universe. They don't take on the mantle over Cosmere, they're just side characters, writing side stories. While I'm concerned a bit, I'm still hopeful and intrigued by their involvement. If it won't work, then this kind of cooperation will be ceased, and we will get only Brandon's books in Cosmere.
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Cosmere spoilers, because this is Mistborn sub-forum:
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No. I have no doubts that Raboniels feelings were true as she showed them, that she really wanted to end the war, no matter the outcome, that she wanted Odium gone, that she wanted to work with Navani as equal, and was fascinated by her work - but she also clearly deceived Navani, lied to her constantly, even admitted that Odium can't be killed by them - she lied about possibility of killing Odium, because she wanted Navani to be blinded by it. Navani, who already experienced a toxic and distrustful relationship with Gavilar, somehow forgot about all of this, and jumped straight into whatever Raboniel said to her, naive and trusting. That's irritating. That's where my problem is. That she didn't stop and think about what else Raboniel said to her, that could be a lie, after she was proven how deep Raboniel's manipulation reached, and she was outmatched costing another Sibling's node. Instead of working with Raboniel and creating Warlight, instead of jumping into that work to prove herself, Navani should have just thought about everything that happened since they started to work together, she should have thought why Raboniel wants anti-light so badly - then she might have realized that if she can made anti-Voidlight, then anti-Stormlight can be made too with the same method, and if that's possible, then spren can be killed permanently. That was so obvious and yet Navani was so surprised when Raboniel told her that. She wanted to make notes? How about burning them, instead of handing them over to Raboniel as she had a flame to burn prayers? Dismantle the machine, change it, destroy the plate of anti-Voidlight, create false routes for them to follow, false machines. Such simple solutions she could have used if she wanted to pursue the research but would prevent this discovery to fall into Odium's hands, or at least delay them significantly. Instead she did exactly what Raboniel wanted her to do, and naively fell for her manipulations - for the third time. And I do have a slight problem with Navani considering Raboniel a hero at the end. Yes, she stood in her defense, she saved her life, but she also broke her trust in every single moment of their interaction. One good deed doesn’t erase hundreds of bad ones. That wasn't heroism, that wasn't a friendship, that was simply abuse.
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That wasn't a binding oath, that was just an agreement or suggestion, they've made, but they weren't aware at that time that they need an oath to bind Shards. Odium still can exploit this agreement, but this isn't something like what Ruin and Preservation had made, before creating Scadrial:
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Oh yes, finally somebody said this. I fully agree. Navani was simply stupid in that book. She never thought about the consequences of her actions, instead she handled the most important discovery in modern Cosmere to Fused and Odium on a silver plate. That was a big problem with RoW for me, and this made me very irritated in many places. She was constantly tricked and deluded by Raboniel, she knew Raboniel was manipulating her, she knew Raboniel lied to her and listened to her conversations with the Sibling, and yet she still did precisely what Raboniel wanted her to do, without even thinking about it. How could she ever believe that she was capable of hiding the truth in her cell, while being under constant observation? How could she believe that she could protect her notes with a simple cypher and some gibberish, while they have spren whose sole purpose is to decipher notes? How could she believe that she could hide her notes in her prison cell? How could she believe that Raboniel wanted to kill Odium, a god? But I can understand why she behaved like that - she was never engaged in a big scientific work up until this point. She lacked experience. She was lured by Raboniel's sweet words, promises, lies and freedom to research things which fascinated her, but she couldn't grasp the consequences of her actions, because she didn't think like a scientist, she lacked basic knowledge of Cosmare and failed to understand what anti-light really is. What this discovery really meant. "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park.
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Does Lumar have a perpendicularity? (SP1 spoilers)
alder24 replied to Authorspren's question in Cosmere Q&A
I said: Planets, not systems... The space between planets is no different than the space between stars. That's why I believe that they look the same, as obsidian ground of CR is the same in both Scadrial and Roshar. Potentially, the other possibility is what was in MeLaan's epilogue in TLM - infinite, transparent, black liquid. That fit to space. However the bead sees in Rosharan subastral and Mists sees in Scadrial's subastral are representations of minds of objects in PR. In the vacuum of space there are no objects, no minds, nothing - there is nothing which could create any sea. For me that’s another indication that the space in between stars would be a solid ground. Also Brandon says that you can walk to other systems, not swim, not sail, but walk - that is another argument for the solid ground making up the interstellar space in CR. No, just outside Scadrial (the same way ISS is it "the space between planets", maybe even just outside of the Scadrian Hill sphere. But that doesn't matter. Being bound to the planet is almost no different than being bound to the system. He could get to other planets in the Scadrian system, but not outside of it, just like Heralds can. But getting to gas giants would probably be very hard for him. I do apologize for not reading your second part of the post carefully and responding to it thoughtfully - I’ve caused unnecessary confusion and tension. -
What kind of surge does Logicspren use? Or Gloryspren? A Logicspren stormcloud look nothing like Inkspren. Starspren and Highspren don't have much association? Starspren look like moving stars, while Highspren are tear in the air with stars behind. Star is a very big association. They look very similar. Size doesn't matter, spren can change size. We don't know most of Singer forms. Also color of Gravityspren don't match with Skybreakers' glyph - the glyph color is gray, Starspren are gray, Mandras are blue. They don't fit. The Plate color must match their glyph color.
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Would silver swords be redundant if you had a shardblade?
alder24 replied to Tamriel Wolfsbaine's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Possibly, but keep in mind silver is a terrible material for a sword. Pure silver is too soft to make jewelry out of it, not to mention weapons. Even silver used for jewelry would be still too soft to make a weapon out of it. Using such weapons to kill non-physical entities will be fine, but striking it at flesh or even worse, metal would be very bad for silver (and that's ignoring the fact that silver in Cosmere is used up in contact with investiture, having a sword that deteriorates is just bad). I doubt it would be as effective against Shardblades as it is against Shades or spores. Shardblades are resilient even to anti-investiture, they should take a silver blade just fine, possibly experiencing a physical discomfort or pain, but not killing them or damaging significantly more than anti-investiture would. A silver blade crossed with Shardblade would break first before doing any serious damage to that Shardblade. So use your silver blade to permanently kill spren if you're a terrible person, but Shardblades can at least hurt them too, so you really don't need any silver blades.
