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Is that a "please kill me and don't Return me" request? xD
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The Secret To Why Bodies of Water Are Solid in the Cognitive Realm
Nyali replied to Blightsong's topic in Mistborn
Well, each of those is a single cognitive entity, right? So there'd be one modestly sized sphere at the center (or shore, if I'm right) of each distinct body of water, and the rest would be land with tiny bits of cognitive reps in it for the sea life there. -
Well, they would have had to be very sure no one else was messing with the vote... I guess they could be reasonably sure with Cultivation out of the way. Arraenae for now, I guess? (EDIT: As a note, chances are high that I won't be on all day tomorrow, unless Google Fi somehow gets signal at the campsite. Verizon never did, but I haven't gone to a LARP since switching to Fi. I'll be on if I do get signal though - I'm not going to participate, I'm going to watch baby Shallan while my wife staffs it.)
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Well, if you had brought it up and gotten Aman lynched, and I had still been revived, I could easily vouch for you. (Not that you would have known that, but you also wouldn't have known that I'd be revived, so we're talking about at this point in time had that one change been made.) I had two abilities that wouldn't work on another Shard, and you being Odium OR Odium's Champion was far more likely than you just being Odium's Champion, if that makes sense. But, that aside, I missed the rule that if a Shard doesn't ever Invest, their killer gets the Shard. So, you pointing out that you had Shattered Cultivation wouldn't prove you weren't Odium, since it proves either you weren't Odium and I invested in you (which I did, by the way, just to be clear), or that I hadn't Invested yet and you killed me as Odium. Not the best "I'm good, I swear!" argument to make, so I do see why you didn't clarify what I said. And I also understand waiting for Aman to react, because, if you missed his being away from game for the day like I did, it looks super suspicious that he didn't say anything. Waiting for him to talk is important. Still, I wish you had said something when I accused you. Waiting to respond there, especially after Aman responded, does look a little odd. In other topics, killing Aman right now will kill one of us. Unless, by a twist of luck (for us, unluck for the 17th Shard), Aman poisoned me the same night I was killed. My understanding is that it would have spent the poison vial because it would have worked, but then Oduim's attack, which comes later in the action order, would have killed me. Unless I'm mistaken, dying and Returning removes the poison? I guess I should ask Seonid about that. The 17th Shard can't use Cultivation to get more poison vials. The only way at this point for them to get more is for me to give Aman my Divine Breath, which kinda unlikely. Well, or if Aman travels to Yolen and gets Invested by Endowment, but as long as I'm alive, you can be sure that they don't have Endowment, since it started in the hands of a Coalition member. If Endowment ever changes hands though, it might be a good idea to kill Aman asap because they can start giving out more vials then via Returned and Endowment's Shardic power (though that can be used on anyone). So, yeah, killing Aman right now rather than going after Hoid is, I think, a bad idea. Who are our remaining candidates for Hoid, by the way?
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Just remember that Survival isn't exactly on our side, though I suppose it is a good idea for Survival to help us bring someone back to life. The more of us alive, the lower the chance of Survival being killed by a random hit. Also, the more confirmed villagers alive, the more prime targets for the eliminators who aren't Survival. Burnt might not be Odium's Champion, but she might be. Odium could have picked me at random. With Aman not being Odium, Odium picking Burnt at random is just as likely as Odium picking me randomly.
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Told ya'll... Edit: I guess Stink is killing everyone he knows has a Shardblade? 25% chance he now finally has one. And there go all our town group PMs for now. Anyone know who Burnt's heir was? Edit: As an FYI, I won't be on for all of Saturday, unless Google Fi somehow gets signal at the campsite (Verizon never did). I'm going to be watching over baby Shallan while my wife staffs a LARP.
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The Secret To Why Bodies of Water Are Solid in the Cognitive Realm
Nyali replied to Blightsong's topic in Mistborn
Yeah, that's pretty much how I've been seeing it. So, my theory is that only the thoughts of sapient creatures create cognitive representations beyond one's own. A human thinking of a campfire can create a campfire spirit, but that spirit wouldn't exist without the human to think it into being. In the physical oceans, there are just fish. If the fish were sentient, then maybe water would be water there, but they're not, so only the actual creatures generate cognitive representations, and those are small because the creatures have low intelligence/sapience. I have a feeling that most of the cognitive representations that land-based sapient creatures generate about the ocean and what lives there appears on the shores, not in the ocean itself. Unless they like, lived in boats in the middle of the ocean. However, on the physical land, there are tons of cognitive representations. Even if there are none at present in a location, there might have been some in the past that are still lingering. All of those cognitive representations, some of which are large, form a vast sea of investiture that is deep enough to drown in. Not because they're actually water, but because there's so many cognitive representations there all stacked on top of one another that it behaves just like water would. -
New Information On AonDor Intitiation.
Nyali replied to Blightsong's topic in Elantris and Emperor's Soul
Gah, it's Dominion, not Domination! They're not even related words! xD Dominion is nationalism, caring about your country, protecting your domain, and so on. It's about land, caring for it and controlling it. It has nothing to do with Domination. Okay, that's not entirely true. Dominion can also mean control. But! It has strong land-based connotations. Control of the land, not control of a person. Though, control of a nation and their people would count... Pssh, I'm going to ignore that and assert that my point stands as is! <.< -
That's a fair point on Awakeners, but not on Mistborn. You only spend the vial if you actually do the kill. Is both saving a villager and killing a serial killer worth your one-shot doctor+vig that isn't expended on failure? Yes. But, only if you actually suspect him of being Odium and don't have a better other target. EDIT: How about, "chance to successfully defend an attack and catch an actual killer?" That's really what's being spent here.
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Yeah, that's why I was saying flowers for Nalthis. The best colors come from the god flowers, just like the best allomancy comes from the god metals.
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Sorry, not buying it. You posted after the night started, so you were there enough for that. I claimed to only two people to have a shard. I died as soon as was possible afterward from an ability that can only kill Shards. That's just too suspicious. Can anyone with the ability to do so tell us if Aman has a Shard? Like, if an Awakener has no better target? Also, if a Mistborn feels like it and doesn't have a better target, I would suggest that Aman and Burnt are solid choices.
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Sure, but the Ardents are property of the lighteyes, and I can't see them really caring for the darkeyes too much. (WoK spoilers under the tag.)
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Fair, but they do take up a good portion of the world, and I get the impression that Vorin medical technology is more advanced than elsewhere.
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There's nothing stopping Odium's champion from being in the 17th Shard, unless I'm mistaken. However, their win condition changes to Odium's as long as Odium invests in them. Aman, if you aren't Odium, why didn't you say anything after I died? Wouldn't it have been obvious that Burnt was a seriously good candidate for being Odium after I claimed having a Shard, which she kinda sorta lied about? Your silence on the matter is pretty damning in my eyes...
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Well, if Khriss or Nazh could use a coinshot/skimmer medallion, which do exist and are used to prime airships, why would they need to question a Crasher to get data? Wouldn't they be able to just do it on their own? I'm not sure I'd believe that they don't know about the southern peoples.
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For secure passwords, try stringing three or four dictionary words together. That's both more secure than including in special symbols or numbers of capital letters, none of which actually increase the difficulty to crack the password more than a tiny bit, and it's easier to remember. I don't write my passwords and put them next to my computer - I draw them instead. Works great, makes them easy to remember, and no one can tell what my terrible artwork is supposed to be let alone realize that they're depictions of passwords. EDIT: But just to be clear, the words you string together have to be random. I use a random word generator to create suggestions and pick one that I can draw easily. If you string together words from known phrases, like the names of famous people, movies, albums, bands, cleaning products, etc - it's extremely easy to crack. When forced to generate passwords with multiple dictionary words and/or names, studies show that people will generally make extremely unsecure passwords that are easy to crack because the average computer user will still pick a common phrase, just like they'd pick a single common dictionary word if given no restrictions.
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The other thing Scadrial has going for it over Roshar is that on Roshar, no matter how good the medical technology is due to germ theory being so obvious, very few people have access to it. Doctors are very rare in the lower class, which is why Kal's dad was particularly notable, and I highly doubt a Light-eyed doctor will serve Dark-eyed patients, especially not at rates a common laborer could afford. On Scadrial post-catascendre though, even if the Basin's technology is only industrial revolution era, common laborers have much more access to it than on Roshar. Much, much more. And there's far more education on Scadrial too. Roshar suffers from the "only women and church slaves can read or write" silliness, which makes getting the education you'd need to be a doctor pretty darn hard for half the population. On Scadrial, anyone could pick up a book and learn basic first aid from it. I'd say the innate investiture of Rosharans due to their planet's oversaturation with investiture is about equal to the benefit of Nalthians being given a Breath at birth (which specifically enhances the body's defenses against illness) and the benefit of Scadrialans being infused with the power of Preservation, a Shard whose Intent involves not dying. So, those things cancel each other out, leaving the availability and quality of medical care as the major deciding factor between them. I do think that the infant mortality on, say, Sel or Threnody would be higher than Roshar/Scadrial/Nalthis though if all other factors were exactly equal.
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Perfect recall is something that all Lightweavers have. Well, or all Lightweavers have some sort of memory-based ability, not necessarily that one. There's an epigraph that mentions their Order's "strange and varied mnemonic abilities" (WoR ch49 epigraph). I don't get how that would follow though from the chemical reaction of Illumination and Transformation, but it could be that the "bonus effects" aren't necessarily related to either base Surge. If having Squires is the bonus effect of being a Windrunner that only manifests at Level 3, I'll be a bit sad. I was looking forward to Gaz, Adolin, and Navani channeling Stormlight. But the fact that it manifests only when Kaladin becomes a Level 3 Windrunner makes me think it's more likely related to being a Level 3 Radiant than to being a Windrunner specifically. Even though we know that Shallan was a Level 3 Radiant since age eight (or was it six?), her intense denial of who she is and what she can do might be artificially preventing her from forming strong enough Connection with others to allow them to channel Stormlight through her spiritweb.
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Why, did I miss something? I wasn't really following the game while dead, and only skimmed the posts I missed, mostly looking for discussion of or by Aman and Burnt. EDIT: Also, Devotion, feel free to include me on any PMs you feel like. I'm a confirmed villager, at least until Endowment changes who they're investing in (or dies) and I die again.
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It's like the starter for a car. You don't want it to keep going, you want it to provide the burst needed to start the engine and then stop. If it keeps going, it'll waste the starter material to not useful effect. As natc said, that's why it cuts out quickly. And why it's relatively safe in water.
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Yeah, I think it's definitely Shalash, but it could certainly have been Shalash at the exact point in time that Shallan did the drawing. Ash does this kind of thing pretty darn often, from what we read in Baxil's interlude (WoK I-7). She's the "daughter of kings and winds, the vandal" who "scratches out her own eyes" (WoK ch55 epigraph). For whatever reason, Ash doesn't want people knowing what she looked like, and ten years earlier, right before Gavilar was murdered, Kelek told Nale that Ash was "getting worse" and that "we weren't supposed to get worse" (WoR prologue). But yeah, it's interesting that Shallan drew Ash specifically, given that Ash is her Order's patron. I suspect that she needs some form of Connection to the subject to do that sort of farseeing. Now here's a question - does this ability to Farsee through art relate at all to what Khriss wrote in the Ars Arcanum of Shadows of Self / Bands of Mourning? Specifically, she said that the surgebindings of Roshar which give access to two completely different powers cause the powers to mix like a chemical reaction, the result being greater than the sum of each on its own. Together, the two powers grant two abilities and an effect. Is the bonus effect the Lightweavers gain from Transformation + Lightweaving related to these visions? (Or is it related instead to how she makes people able to see another version of themselves and then change their lives to become the person they saw that they could have been?) Thinking about it more, the Truthwatchers can almost certainly do stuff like this too. What do Truthwatches and Lightweavers share in common? The Surge of Illumination - the manipulation of electromagnetic forces. What if both Truthwatchers and Lightweavers are able to use Illumination to "see" things happening far away, manipulating the light to bring them images of things happening elsewhere? Each Order of the Knights seems to primarily use their powers in a specific way that makes the most sense to them and is easiest for them. Kaladin is great at using Gravitation to ride the winds, and uses Adhesion only when necessary in fairly crude and rudimentary ways. Shallan is great at using Illumination to create illusions and fool people, but Transformation comes harder to her. What if it's natural for Truthwatchers to use Illumination to see and hear distant things instead of creating illusions, but can create illusions if they try? What if Bondsmiths can use Adhesion primarily to create groups of people who stick together, rather than using it to literally stick objects together? It's interesting.
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Nijza awoke with a start. She continued to lie on the cold stone slab a moment, gasping for breath she hadn't needed to breathe in quite a long time. Breath she still didn't need. She sat up. What happened to her? She couldn't remember anything except colors and light and... And it all came flowing back to her. Thousands of years of history, of the death of Adonalsium, of her time with Honor forging a world into something beautiful, of Cultivating it and the people there. She remembered hearing about threats to the Cosmere, of a man who would reforge that which needed to be broken, of another who wanted nothing more than to see her dead. And she remembered a plan. A plan that, it seemed, had worked exactly as she had planned. She laughed at this, even as she recalled the pain of being torn apart. "Next time I make a plan that involves dying," she said to herself, "maybe I should try to see if I can come up with something better first. By the Good Beyond, that hurt! It seems that my theory was right, that being a Sliver would allow me to retain my memories across the Boundary." She frowned. "Well, all of them except my brief jaunt through Shadesmar as a Cognitive Shadow. A shame, I was hoping I'd remember what name my old friend was using these days." She stretched and stood up, finally starting to look around the room. "After this, I should find Valan. He's going to have such a fit when he hears that I planned..." her voice trailed off as she saw what lay beside her. Valan Quivar, the Vessel of Honor with whom she'd spent the last few centuries, lay on a stone slab next to the one where she had awakened. Dead. She grew cold. "Endowment, my old friend," she said to the ceiling, "thank you for letting me carry though with my plan. But once this is done, or before if you need the power, take back the Splinter you have lent me. There is someone I'd like to see again in the place Beyond." Nijza left the room - the mausoleum, she realized - and headed toward the nearest Perpendicularity. There was work to be done. ---------- So! That was probably not the smartest plan, but it did work out fairly well. I figured that if either of the two people who started on the same world as me were Odium, they'd kill me. Then, either the other would call them out, or they would be Odium's champion. I had hoped Endowment would pick me if that happened, and it seems they did! So, I started on Taldain with Burnt and Aman. I told them I had a Shard. See, the eliminators already have a list of everyone who starts with a Shard, so I figured there was a relatively small chance (10%) I'd be giving anyone information dangerous to me (Odium and/or their champion), and if either were one of them, they couldn't resist killing me. By dying in that way, not only would it reveal Odium, it would also permanently block the eliminator's instant win condition. Looking back at what I missed, it seems that Burnt claimed I said nothing to indicate I was Cultivation. Well, that's a nice Aes Sedai lie. I explicitly said I had a Shard, but not which it was. That's kinda key info, so that makes me think Burnt is Odium's champion. I know Burnt didn't start with a Shard because I successfully used a power on her that would have failed if she had a Shard. That means there's a ~87% chance that Aman is Odium, and I'd give it a ~80% chance that, if Aman is Odium, Burnt is Odium's Champion.
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I forgot that about Nalthis. But, that makes little sense to me... isn't color just a catalyst in Awakening, exactly like metal on Scadrial? I'd expect the equivalent of the mists to be flowers, not colors...
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Is it confirmed that non-Scadrialians, who have no Preservation in them, can use the medallions? I though that was limited to people whose Spiritweb was already keyed to Preservation. Yes, that's exactly what I said...
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Yeah, my impression was that the lifeboat didn't have a weight/coinshot medallion on board because the ship only had a few of them, but they must have one weight/warmth medallion per crew member, so there are a ton of those. The ones they snagged from the safe would therefore be mostly warmth. Having a translation mixed in, but not a coinshot, makes sense to since those were probably both pretty rare on board, and the Set would care more about the coinshot ones if they had any idea what they did when they left for the second site.
