DrakeMarshall

Motivator technology extracted from a light-bending epic. Absolutely.

Nighthound is slain before the game began... Well, now that the precedent for totally invalid votes is set, Seonid.

Pretty sure that's correct.

Well then. Maybe I should have made it a tie after all. Although, on the bright side, I guess that means zeta won't trigger anymore? I've thought about several different approaches for my own games. Inactivity policies are important. Personally, I would use a straight inactivity filter sparingly. Thing is, they don't really encourage activity all that much. Because the only people they are going to target is total inactives. And, by definition, somebody who is totally inactive isn't going to respond to the threat of dying. That said, there are some measures that I am likely to incorporate into at least one of my upcoming games: 1. Majority votes only count actives. Otherwise, inactivity can decide the outcome of certain votes, which ideally shouldn't happen. 2. Players can only take actions in a cycle if they've also posted a certain minimum amount. This is just a pretty simple deterrent to lurking. 3. Activity should be rewarded. This has been implemented to great effect in a number of my favorite games. The only downside is that it makes the eliminators even more motivated to kill actives, however they are typically going to target actives regardless. 4. Also I have an in-game mechanic about inactives. Only to explain exactly how it works I'd have to give spoilers on my stormlight game. Suffice to say that, while this particular idea is unlikely to actually have much of an effect, I still really like the idea of it. I've considered making it so that the eliminators can, on a given night, trade their single kill against an active for two kills against inactives. But I have some real doubts about that one.

The nightwatcher catches it. And then throws it again. Don't ask me how that works. Edit: oops, I didn't see the next page. Granted. Here is a lifeless koloss-cat, imprinted with the command "destroy furniture." I wish for a small bag of clearmarks.

Hmm... Well that changes some things. Well, if you are telling the truth, I suppose my analysis was actually somewhat accurate. Since you believed you were neutral, you were often acting in the name of self preservation. Still, I have some questions about your explanation, if you wouldn't mind answering them. Why wouldn't you ask the GMs what your alignment was? That seems like a really important game detail. I mean, from my GM PM, I'm pretty sure that none of them were color-coded. But if you were uncertain about your alignment, why not ask? Also, why exactly did you learn your alignment once your ability triggered? In what context did your alignment as a villager come up? Also, another point of concern... If MEB is evil, your claiming has put the village in some danger, as they could now cause a shadow dimension event every cycle, until one of you dies. If you are in fact a villager, are you sure that claiming is a good idea?

It would be poor form to kill you immediately. Honor may be dead, but it lives on in the hearts of SE players, or something like that. I mean I'm getting lynched pre-game but this is all whimsy banter. Ah, but Jondesu said "unless you make it obvious you're an elim." Nighthound is obviously evil, right? Plus, while you may have recently returned, I'm pretty sure you aren't new by any stretch of the imagination.

If my tie-making was a sneaky gambit, it would be because I knew who the MEB was. That would be a most delightful ploy, and generally an excellent wounded wildebeast gambit (seriously, can that be a new term? the wounded wildebeast gambit could be when you create a tie you know you can rig due to vote manipulations ). It wouldn't be because Orlok was my team mate, since Orlok was the one who put me in danger of being lynched in the first place. That's would be quite a few layers of IKYK, if we were going to play it that way, and if we were team mates it would have been vastly easier if Orlok never accused me in the first place. That said, I don't know who the MEB is, and I'd ask that they hold off on interfering with tied votes, if they are a villager. I think that would be counterproductive at this stage. And I'd be down to do a tied vote. But, seeing as I actually really do suspect Lopen, I'm not going to be moving my vote around this time.

How's life? What is the meaning of life? What questions should I ask?

I'm interested to see what Seonid makes of this insanity in the D1 introductory writeup

Telekinesis?

I wouldn't see that I am going after you solely for bandwagonning. Although I will note that "I'm allowed to genuinely agree with other people, aren't I" is a pretty universal defense from those who are accused of bandwagonning. That said. I think you for both giving a defense and casting a vote. Both of those are useful for the game. I am a little confused at your choice of Elbereth though. She is, by your process of elimination, a fair candidate... And yet you don't really offer a reason to lynch her, specifically. You leave yourself open to hop on a different lynch later in the cycle. And you don't really talk about the implications of lynching a dragonslayer. The more paranoid side of me wonders if you are gunning to replace a village dragonslayer with an eliminator. So. While I'd be foolish to say I have no doubts. My vote stays where it is right now. First of all, I personally would be reluctant to lynch zeta just because they are zeta. I don't really see that role as being alignment indicative. In the comics, zimmy wasn't evil at all, so I don't think the GMs would have any reason to make the role of a fixed alignment, despite it's dangers. Also, I'm really not sure we want MEB and zeta to contact each other. If MEB is evil, that could be really bad. I am surprised that your first thought is to enable MEB to contorl the effects of zeta, without considering the dangers of this. In response to your question. It's possible that my list could use updating. And maybe I should have put in some time to do so. Maybe I will share a brand new list of reads for this cycle. That sort of thing certainly moves the game forward. That said, I decided to just use that list because I believe it is still mostly relevant. I'd probably make a few changes, but a lot of the reasoning still holds, in my opinion.

I'd guess that the limitation isn't a result of hemalurgy. Because mistwraiths presumably also have this limitation. It's possible that the Lord Ruler actually designed mistwraiths/kandra to possess this limitation. It wouldn't be the first time he deliberately placed flaws into his servants. That all aside. Kandra do have one possibility for biological armor. BoM spoilers:

When it's late at night and you wish you had a bronzemind on hand Or when in movies the protagonists seem to dodge bullets like they are burning atium, and yet no such satisfying explanation is provided

I figure that the quote you referenced kind of implied that there was not even any swapping among the sixteen. That said, I personally believe that originally, Hoid was one of the sixteen, and he decided against taking a shard at the last second, as an act of protest against the shattering, and somebody else took his place.

Excellent theory. I wouldn't say I "like it" because, the idea sounds absolutely horrifying But this is a very good thought.

Which is alive? The fish, or the dish? Granted. You are now Rob McKenna, the rain god. Your bane is that you have to pick up Arthur Dent on the side of a road. I wish for a dish on a fish.

Yayy I have time to give this game some more attention. First of all, lets just get up-to-date on the last few posts: I'm not actually sure that I wouldn't do something like I did if I were an eliminator. But who knows. I mean, maybe I'm just being paranoid, but this kind of makes me substantially more suspicious of Lopen. Quick to cast a vote on me when it looks like it's a likely lynch, but then even quicker to back down on that when it's looking less likely. I get it, people change their minds, and Almighty knows I'm not a consistent person, but still. It feels like this is somebody who is paying attention to the things that might lay blame at their feet. One way or another, this post is informative. Thank you for sharing thoughts. This may be nothing, but I'm kind of noticing that you are paying significantly more attention to the possibility of zeta's alignment changing than most people are. Do you have a vested interest in independent alignments, or is this just a coincidence? That said, I'd agree with most of your analysis here. Not really much room to respond to your accusations, such as they are, so I don't think I have anything to say here. Glad you found out how we do schooling in the Court though adds a new meaning to bored out of your mind, doesn't it? The trouble with responding to big posts is that there's no easy way to break it down into multiple small quote boxes. Ah well. Yes, I do post a lot. I'd apologize, but I'm probably going to continue doing so until somebody decides to kill me for a bit of peace and quiet. If nothing else, activity is my hallmark. One thing to respond to: "Had said in his last post that he was gonna try and come up with a lynch candidate but then never posts again until this post which was five hours before cycle's end, where he votes for Ecth to tie the votes up" I actually did cast a vote on Burnt in between those two happenings. After Burnt shared more game thoughts I decided to remove my vote, for the time being. I think the relevant post is here. As for being confusing... Yes. The two things I enjoy most about SE are the unique game mechanics, and trying on as many different approaches as I can. Feel free to scrutinize my motives, but be warned that side effects may include contracting my particular brand of insanity. Good luck. Hmm... I think I like the sound of "wounded walrus gambit." I've already said, it's not out of the question that I'd do this as an eliminator. So, yes, it's a real possibility. Although I think you overestimate me if you believe I'd do it as a sneaky ploy to gain trust. I'd probably do it just 'cuz why not. Thinking you are about to die can be liberating, no? I think I'd be somewhat interested in hearing Clanky respond to this. Alright... I do believe I've read up-to-date on this cycle. So... I guess here is probably the part that I should talk about who we should lynch. Last cycle, I narrowed down to a list of potential suspects / potential lynch targets (if you want to see where I'm getting this list, see this post). I'd say that list is still mostly relevant, so rather than making a new one I'm going to stick with that one. Budgie (A Budgie) Altea Meza (Crimsn-Wolf) Carrie Brule (Burnt Spaghetti) Lopen (TheMightyLopen) BrightnessRadiant Of those. Crimsn is dead, and a dead villager at that. I'd be against lynching Burnt (this cycle, anyway), because she responded to my original vote last cycle, and I think there is less grounds to lynch her now. (that said, I'd be happy to hear more game thoughts today, if you have any to share) BR is a pretty neutral read. Not my first choice for a lynch this cycle. I still want to hear more from Budgie. @A Budgie, so far you've continued your pattern of posting mostly RP. I love RP in these games, but I'm still very interested to hear some game thoughts from you. Please share at least who you are reading elim on. Right now, it kind of looks like you are trying to fly under the radar by only posting RP. And I've seen that strategy used effectively before by eliminators. That all said, you may have guessed by process of elimination that right now, my vote rests on Lopen. @TheMightyLopen All of your actions so far look like they can be attributed to self preservation, and I'm wary of that. Also your main post today kind of felt like you were casting a wide net to throw suspicion on a lot of people without directly committing to a suspicion. Also. Did you refrain from voting because of the regional faerie thing? That would explain at least some of the post I referenced. EDIT: Oh, I'm forgetting something. Those were my thoughts on the lynch, but I also wanted to share some thoughts on the game. Namely, two thoughts: 1. How viable does it sound to learn somebody's alignment by having them take the test? They have an above-average shot at being an eliminator in the other thread, meaning that if only a small number of people did this, it would benefit the Court. What's more, their role/alignment should still flip if they test, meaning we get a level of information that is comparable to the lynch. The one caveat to this is that, obviously, not everybody likes changing alignment. I mean, it means that everything you did prior to the point at which you changed alignment is now actually bad for your new win condition. So... Chances are, most people would prefer switching alignment earlier in the game, if they have the choice. If y'alls really want, I could pursue this option for myself. I'd be interested in seeing what comes of it. That said, unless people actually want me to do that, I don't think I'm going to. 2. Secret alignments. Here's an idea. It's probably pretty useful to know the nature of all these secret alignments, right? And, chances are, a lot of these secret alignments are not directly mutually exclusive with our win conditions (unless they are serial killers, but I doubt it). Meaning, in theory we might be able to coexist. So. What if we all agreed not to lynch the first secret alignment person that revealed themselves and told us their win condition? This offer would be contingent upon the terms that their win condition is not mutually exclusive with our own in any way. It should also go without saying that if there is evidence that they lied about their win condition, the offer of protection would be void, and we'd lynch them. Now, seeing as I'm pretty much making a shot in the dark here, I really don't know if this is actually a good idea. But, I figure that potentially it may be advantageous for us to know some of these things. I'd be willing to coexist with a lesser evil if they described exactly what their agenda is. Plus it would remove a suspe-- oh wait. Actually that's a terrible idea because the elims could just pretend to be a secret alignment. Forget that I just said any of that.

Granted. You experience a short moment of utter bliss, followed by a quick and painless death. You asked for the rest of your life, and killing you was the only way to make that wish easy to grant, I'm afraid. The nightwatcher prefers to be economical in how she applies her magics. I wish for a fish on a dish.

I gotta finish up a job real quick, but I'll probably be giving some proper commentary in a couple hours. Just dropping by.

Wait, what's all this about lava lakes? We're dragging that Nighthound guy into a lake of lava? Seems legit.

Yeah, this is exactly it. Does bauxite interfere with investiture, or would you need to refine it to get that property? If not, the shin phenomenon could literally be the result of a bauxite deposit

Especially seeing as pure elemental aluminum basically never occurs naturally. Which poses an interesting question. Would an aluminum-containing compound have similar effects?

Hmmm hello everybody. A few things to say, I guess... First of all, I wanted a tie what did you guys go breaking it for. Ecthelion wasn't even evil. Second of all. Orlok. Doc12 confirmed STINK's win con? Must have missed that. My bad. Please do not get the idea that I seriously wanted to lynch a medium. That would be a poor life decision. What I said was "if y'alls are sure that the eliminators wanted the medium position, well... one thing logically follows." Personally, I don't think the eliminators did want the medium position. Third of all. Zeta. What have you done?? This is going to be interesting. Some of those folks aren't coming back... And some of them are coming back... Different. Guess there's not much for it but to wait and see. I think I might have been planning on saying something else, but I've forgotten it, so I'll get back to you on that.

Hmmmmm... What if Shinovar is the way it is because it has a big deposit of Aluminum under it And the Shin would never know, because they have a taboo against digging up rocks.