Jondesu

Honestly, I don't think I really care if you lynch me now, so I'm just going to say it: I am a Ghostblood, I'm incredibly annoyed that someone killed off Megasif, but you're not going to get anything from me to find my remaining teammates. Good luck, and I wish everyone the best in this game. EDIT: Why not? Jondesu

I’ll be virtually silent for a while, as I’m about to have a new baby. Don’t expect me around for a day or so probably, and only in limited capacity then.

Yeah…I have to say, I kinda expected this. The Sons are trying to get the lynch to do all their dirty work, and it won't matter if a few of their members are discovered by false claims, because by the time that happens, the Parshendi won't have hardly any voting power left. At that point, the unaligned Alethi will have a much better chance of reaching a successful win con if they just work with the Sons, and this game will be over quickly. I'm going to of course vote against Orlok, who I can only assume must be a SoH, or an unaligned Alethi who has just solidly thrown in with them.

At least 3 minimum is almost a given in my mind, just for balance’s sake against the Sons of Honor and Ghostbloods, since I highly doubt they would only have 2 members. Keeping all 3 factions about the same size makes sense, with more Alethi Ghostbloods than Parshendi Ghostbloods to make sure there are still a few unaligned Parshendi. It’s just my guess, but it seemed reasonable to me and is likely enough I’ll assume it’s probably true unless I find evidence otherwise. Also, since I just got back to the Parshendi doc and read through that, I am going to go ahead and vote for Elenion. I think it’s in our best interests to work together, Alethi, so while I’m reluctant to take Aster’s scan claim at face value, I do think it’ll be good for the game overall to cooperate with this lynch. I do ask that the Alethi players plan on lynching an Alethi target next cycle to make sure we don’t just hand the game to the Sons of Honor.

Replying to a couple things here, but I’m on mobile and won’t necessarily get a good solid post until later tonight at the earliest. Since no one else could have really scanned Elenion this past cycle, and therefore wouldn’t be able to refute the claim, Aster actually has an easy time claiming Voidbringer scam results and getting Len lynched before anyone figures it out. If he turns out to be lying, the Alethi are even more in control of the lynch anyways then, and he could be betting on convincing the unaligned Alethi (though as I said, I doubt there are that many unaligned). Just simple math and an educated guess. I would expect any of the factions to have 3-4 members at minimum, since otherwise they’d be hard-pressed to even have a chance of completing their win con, and even with 23 players, it seems likely that there are 3-4 Voidbringers plus at least one Ghostblood among the Parshendi (which is half or more of them at that point), and extrapolating out, I didn’t think it was unlikely to have significantly more players in a faction than unaligned. (Not any one particular faction, but total between the three secret factions.)

I really thought that was one of the ones that was only at a single point. Good to know. Also, I’m bad at math, so I’m not there yet.

Could you Awaken an object by giving the command to its bead in Shadesmar, or the equivalent in the Nalthian CR?

Yes. I find I like the color better if I type [ color=red] [ /color] (just remove those extra spaces) around the word, instead of using the color picker.

"I am a large, semi-muscular man! I can handle it!" (Wash, from Firefly)

That's a great quote, though I'd suggest noting the source since I had to Google it. Not a huge deal, though, since Google worked fine. 9/10

I want to upvote you, but somehow you're still on that status, so I shan't. I'm only 3 upvotes away from it myself, so I'll have to keep a close eye on mine to see if I can get a screenshot when it happens.

You missed my vote on Sart.

Wow, I finally get a chance to sit down and read, and we're at 4 pages already. Nicely done. I'm not going to try to weigh in on everything, especially since so much has been affected by rule clarifications or just new information, but I'll say that Sart's plan sounds incredibly unhelpful to most of us, and thus was probably not meant with malicious intent since then he'd just become a target. That said, since I am a Parshendi, I don't want to let him encourage such a dangerous tactic, and since this is a faction game, there isn't a clear "us vs them" division anyways, or a specific group that we all need to root out (as others have said, the Ghostbloods are basically the mafia, but most(?) players will be part of one secret faction or another, so there are many factors pulling at all of us), so I'm going to vote for Sart in order to both eliminate the possibility that he's just playing on the fact that we've talked about people with bad plans D1 usually not being mafia in past games or actually being one of the Sons of Honor who wants all of the Parshendi dead, which would be, you know, bad for me. Quick RP, though I don't promise to keep up RP the whole game (I just love this little trick of Kintas'): Kintas awoke flailing in a sea of glass beads. Souls of objects and people whirled around him, pushing him down and threatening to drown him. Stilling his mind, he reached out and grabbed a bead, and fed a Breath into it. It greedily absorbed the Investiture he offered, pulling the other beads into the shape of the shield he'd grabbed unknowingly. That wasn't the most graceful of boats, but the stickiness of the Breath offered him some lasting power that he wouldn't have had to offer with Stormlight, so he had time to get his bearings. And then everything shifted again, changing not in the way the beads moved through Shadesmar, but instead shifting with a great lurch and whirl that felt like it went deep into Kintas' very soul. He gasped and fell to one knee, but as he did, he found himself being pulled inexorably to the north, not far from where he had fallen, from a cut rope. The shield he stood on began sliding under him in the direction he was meant to go, and he felt the call in his soul as well, and so he was not surprised when he arrived to find that his old master seemed to have arranged something for him. Hoid wasn't there himself, but a kind of note in the form of a Parshendi spear dragged fully into Shadesmar, with a symbol Kintas knew well etched into it, was sufficient to tell him what was expected of him. Kintas breathed deeply and focused on the Parshendi he had seen and battled up close. He knew well the strong arms covered in carapace, though he forced himself to think of the older Parshendi Warform, rather than the Stormform they had taken on. He knew the eyes, the mottled skin, the hair strands, the bowed legs. And he was them. He was Parshendi. Slowly, his form changed to match. His body adapted and took on the appearance of a Parshendi, as he once again utilized what Hoid had once described to him as a "special set of mental gymnastics", whatever that meant. When the transformation was complete, he looked down at his new hands, his new chest, and nodded in approval. Then he grasped the spear and let the perpendicularity that Hoid had somehow attached to it drag him through into the Physical Realm once more. He glanced around to take his bearings. He stood amongst a group of Parshendi, waiting on a plateau for the assembled Alethi party to meet with someone. Turning, he saw one of the Parshendi up on a rock, looking down at them all with…contempt? While he looked like the Parshendi, he could not hear their Rhythms thumping through his mind, and so he did not know exactly what they were communicating. This one on the rock seemed familiar, though he had never seen a Parshendi in Nimbleform before. His (her?) face was familiar, and yet he couldn't quite place it. He turned back to the Alethi and nearly gasped aloud. Was that Dalinar? He did not appear to be the Radiant that Kintas had met previously. The man who had reformed the Knights Radiant looked much more like the Brightlord and almost-King that Kintas had expected from some of the stories he'd heard before he met the man in the…other version of this world. It was not an improvement. Kintas began to realize that whatever had happened, he had been dragged to a very different version of Roshar than where he had been, and he had a long journey ahead of him. (In case anyone's wondering what the heck I'm talking about, this is all referring back to the same character's part in LG30.)

I’m finally home to stay for a while. Three weeks at the Mayo Clinic after two weeks at a clinic in Michigan was a lot of time away from home, even with a couple weeks between those.

Humans might perceive themselves as a Cognitive whole too strongly for that. Would be an interesting question. Also might not have been guaranteed to bring the desired results.

Yes indeed it has some significant complexity. I still have to make sure I’m completely confident in my understanding of the rules.

Might take ya a little while...

Ugh, I was planning to take a break, but I can’t resist the urge. Kintas will sign up for this game.

Nicely done, Brightness! Loved the return, @Sart. Very fun game. And I survived!

Well, not horribly surprising, except that they didn't do that earlier. I tried doing some analysis, but I'm just not up for going through everything. I did look back over some of the early cycles, and I think I'm leaning somewhat village on Striker, mixed on Cluny, and tough to tell on Ecth. Seonid led the poke voting C1 by voting on BR, but I doubt that's very revealing. Yitzi, though, I find myself coming back to. Yes, he's proposed what most of us have treated as a good plan. We haven't had any village losses due to cytonics since then, but we might not have anyway. His first proposed plan was much more dangerous, which is usually something villagers are more likely to do, except that I think Yitzi's smart enough to know that. So I think he did it intentionally. He wanted to look village by posting plans that were actually enticing, and he purposefully followed the pattern that we've discussed around these forums repeatedly as being what can signify a villager vs an Elim. My vote goes on Yitzi this cycle.

@BrightnessRadiant, not much to add to that kind of analysis. Point 8 was just timing of when I was on and made up my mind. Asterion's lynch was mostly gut read. In fact, you'll note I specifically said that his secret vote on Cluny didn't make him more suspicious. I may have fallen victim to some groupthink and knee jerk reaction against your own votes since you'd been calling me out. Probably not the best, but I can see it now. Glad to see you're reconsidering your read on me. I'm in a hotel room for a while, so I might try to do some analysis of those other players I mentioned. I don't generally find my analysis to be all that great, but if I find myself up to it, I'll try.

Here’s an example I happen to like:

I feel like Seonid and Ecth haven’t had much scrutiny, and I need to look over Yitzi’s posts because I feel like something was standing out, but I may be mixing it up with the other game that I’m still reading. Cluny I’ve gone back and forth on (publicly) and while I’m leaning neutral or slightly village, I might could be convinced. I have no idea about Striker, despite him posting a decent amount.

Since I didn’t answer during the night cycle, @BrightnessRadiant, I voted Asterion because unlike you, I wasn’t getting a village vibe from him. I’d been suspicious of him for a while, though perhaps that was because I haven’t played with him before (at all? much? not sure) and just didn’t catch something. You tunneling on Flash and I isn’t going to help, though. @The Flash, please don’t guard against me tonight.

I don’t feel good about that at all! I think Flash seems suspicious because he’s still new, and I think this is his first QF? I was totally lost my first QF because of how fast everything moves, and I actually don’t intend to play them normally, but this one was just so tempting... Regardless, if I’m setting aside my suspicions of Cluny for a bit, and I think Flash is just still showing his newness, I think I’ll put my vote on Asterion. I’ve had a mild suspicion of him, and guarded against him two nights ago (obviously that amounted to nothing, but most of our guarding does), and I also can’t seem to track down a pattern that would indicate why there was no kill. There aren’t any roleblocks in this game that I know of, and if I saw correctly, I think every single living player posted during the night cycle last night. Yitzi did say he was going to be unavailable after he asked me not to guard against him, but I hesitate to lynch someone over that, plus that was late enough in the cycle he could have submitted the kill then if he was an Elim. I suspect we’ll find that there was a secret vote placed, which is what action Asterion took last night if he’s telling the truth about being a Firebrand, and that the other Alien (assuming there aren’t just 3, which is unlikely but possible I suppose) may be a UIB Agent as we’ve discussed, or a second Firebrand, and we’ll see a hammer today with two secret votes? I dunno, it could be nothing more than a mistake. I’ve been there before. Since we’ve basically seen Brightness confirmed village (unless she’s a secret serial killer role who needs to be the last Alien alive, and has been bussing her teammates because of that?), let’s not forget that confirmed good doesn’t mean confirmed right. Obviously. Edit: @BrightnessRadiant, this long post was part of why I didn’t post before you said that. Also, I read without posting in the thread a lot. I’m either on mobile (like now) and it takes me a while, or I don’t have the mental energy right then to post, or any number of other reasons.